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Old 08-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #1
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350 vs 700r4 length

I tried the search before I asked, but couldnt find an answer. My 74 shortbed originally came with a 350/350 combo. They are both long gone now. I have a 400 to install but now might be trading it for a 700r4. Im guessing my 350 had a 9" tail shaft but not sure. Am I going to need to lengthen or shorten my drive shaft?? Is the column shift brackets going to adapt or do I need them from an 80s truck?? Thanks for any info, Matt.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:46 PM   #2
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

my 73 C10 came with a th350, I swapped a 700 in, the drivesahft did not need to be shortened at all.

Can't help on the linkige part, I am running a floor shifter.

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Old 08-13-2012, 12:53 PM   #3
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

Drive shaft and the linkage will both work.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:45 PM   #4
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

You do have to move the cross member..
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #5
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

Well if my stock driveshaft will work that will save me some coin. Thanks for the info.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #6
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

My '74 had the long tailshaft, and the 700R4 went right in. I did have to move the crossmember, like Rich mentioned. Not an issue at all. Driveshaft and linkage works like a charm.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:31 PM   #7
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

If your truck had a long shaft TH350 then you don't need to do anything, the driveshaft slip right in. How do I know, my 1974 was an original TH350 (they originally came with long shafts) and I put in a 700R4 and used the original drivesaft.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:12 PM   #8
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

I dont remember if my 350 was a long tail or not. Does one of you have a measurement of the driveshaft?
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:50 PM   #9
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

A "short tail" TH350's extention housing is roughly 6" long.

A "long tail" TH350's extention housing is roughly 9" long.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:45 AM   #10
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

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A "short tail" TH350's extention housing is roughly 6" long.

A "long tail" TH350's extention housing is roughly 9" long.
As I stated above I dont have the trans anymore so I cant measure it. Thats why I asked the length of driveshaft.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:57 AM   #11
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

Linkage should work just fine. Just need to change the indicator in the dash. Easy swap.
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

Transmission mounting and housing sizes.
http://www.tciauto.com/tc/trans-dim
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:38 PM   #13
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As I stated above I dont have the trans anymore so I cant measure it. Thats why I asked the length of driveshaft.
If you can wait a bit I can slide under my truck and measure the driveshaft on my truck.
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Transmission mounting and housing sizes.
http://www.tciauto.com/tc/trans-dim
Cool link, thanks.
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If you can wait a bit I can slide under my truck and measure the driveshaft on my truck.
That would be cool, thanks.
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Linkage should work just fine. Just need to change the indicator in the dash. Easy swap.
Do you know where I can get the new indicator besides a wrecking yard?
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Do you know where I can get the new indicator besides a wrecking yard?
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If that option doesn't pan out, LMC truck (cheapest) has them along with a few others.

On Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-C-K-R-V-...item53ec2202a7

Classic Industries:
http://www.classicindustries.com/truck/parts/17140.html

LMC:
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=136

(It says it is for later models than yours but that is only due to the availability of the 700, it will mount just fine with no mods)

Or, Yes, Junkyard but if you are like me, you most likely will leave the junkyard with it and a host of other parts you found and an empty wallet....
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

i dropped a built 1966 327 ci engine with a 1997 4l60e in a 1986 c-10 that had a 305 ci and a th350 and all I had to do was move the cross member and the shifter worked fine also
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Re: 350 vs 700r4 length

Oh yea, rookies!!

http://transmissioncenter.net/700R4_Swap_Info.htm
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