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Re: One reason to LOVE your square!
we were warned! back in 68 lol computers don't always get you home
Dave : Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL? HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dave : Open the pod bay doors, HAL. HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Dave : What's the problem? HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. Dave : What are you talking about, HAL? HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. Dave : I don't know what you're talking about, HAL. HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. Dave : [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL? HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move. Dave : Alright, HAL. I'll go in through the emergency airlock. HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult. Dave : HAL, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors! HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
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Re: One reason to LOVE your square!
Interest in our trucks makes us love them, but I HATE it when people are TOUCHING MY TRUCK in parking lots and other such places. I NEVER touch another person's vehicle without permission either.
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Re: One reason to LOVE your square!
One reason. That could be a hard one. I can remember while on a lunch break at work and just sitting in the cab, listening to the radio and of course eating lunch. Sometimes I think of it being my home away from home. Recently I drove my sister-in-law's '99 with computers, nice interior, fuel injected extended cab, nice stereo and so forth. Still it was not my truck, yet it would make a good alternative! LOL.
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So easy to work on, that's why I love my truck! (Even though it's turning into a pile of crap)
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When I was looking for another truck and one to beat around in I told the guy at the dealership I wanted something simple. We looked at a bunch of trucks. A ton of trucks. They were all okay. Most were exteded cabs and crewcabs. I'll be honest I didn't want either, nor did I want power windows, seats and all that other crap. So we kept looking and found a '07 Colorado. It was plane jane down to the rubber mats, non power anything. It only had 10k on it, that was in January. I've had people tell me you should have bought a four door or got power this or that. The nicest thing on the truck is the radio. I drive it daily right now, but I imagine once I get my '76 back on the road I will drive it much more. Why? Because looking out the windsheild of a classic truck is different than looking out the windshield of a new truck.
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Never thought Id see the day people referring to square bodies as "Classics"
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Yeah that classic term still strikes me as odd for a square body. Just not quite old enough in my eyes and even then, it's just hard to fathem I think. Probably because I still use mine is it was intended, to tow and haul.
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I love my 1986 1 ton. I can buy all new wheel bearings and seals for the 4 corners and it's still cheaper than a single front wheel bearing unit for my 2006 Sierra.
Locking hubs, nothing wrong with saving some wear and tear on the front diff by not having it spin all the time. Fixed yoke t-case outputs. I can remove a driveshaft and still drive home if I needed to. My 2006 Sierra has some goofy balancer on the rear pinion shaft, it has half of the pinion seal attached to the balancer. It cost me about $250 to replace the rear pinion seal because this whole balancer needs to be replaced with it. The rear pinion seal for my 1986 1 ton is about $12 and takes 20 minutes to replace. I'm sure I could think of a few other reasons to love the square body..... |
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the one reason i love my square is... EVERY TIME i walk out the door i know my 77 and 79 are both ready... both trucks have well over 215k on them they are at the point they need to be retired but you can go out and mash the gas once and touch the key and thay are running, no computer to tell it it cant run they are just always ready and never called apon
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I don't think he means everyone out there, but computers are definately just another electronic device that can bite the bullet without warning. Electronics are funny that way.
I rarely see the engine computer go on the blitz but it does happen. What I see most of the time is the BCM or ABS modules fail. Both of them are also very pricey to replace, and I can do without either one to be honest. The less electronic stuff the better. |
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You probably could have replaced it with a regular pinion flange and not noticed any difference. K
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This is where we disagree, sir. Computers have taken vehicles to new heights, as has fuel injection. They last far longer and the list of benefits just goes on and on. And on. If carbs were so great they'd still be around. |
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My TPI computer is 28 years old..I had an old TBI to use as a core , so I picked up a new computer as a spare for trouble shooting for $80.00...Long story short, for some stupid reason I have been running the truck with the "new" computer. Guess what. It lasted about 5000 miles. So I'm back to the 28 year old with no problems.
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i don't understand how you can argue that a carb is better than fuel injection from any standpoint. you might say it's easier to work on...changing jets on a carb can take hours...changing injectors can take minutes...changing the AFR on a carbed engine required the truck be stopped, with the hood open. changing the AFR on a fuel injected engine is as easy as plugging in the computer, which can be done will the truck is running, allowing you to tune on the fly. same with timing. some say gen I small block chevys are the easiest engines to work on, a cam swap on a LSX engine can take a matter of a couple hours. fuel injection is far superior in every single way...
a STOCK 325 cu in LS truck engine makes 300hp 320ft/lbs tq and gets 18 mpg in the city all long... what does your stock carburated 350 make? you may say that with a little work it could make that much...well you could spend maybe a total of 10 hours on that little 5.3l/325 cu in ls engine doing a cam, valvespring, intake, and longtube header install and have it tuned and make 400hp 425ft/lbs of tq i understand that all the interior electronics and headlight computers and automated evrything is a little overkill, but saying that carburation is better than fuel injection? that's the craziest thing i've ever heard...
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![]() Carbs are still the favorite among the hobbiest, for good reason, they are dirt cheap to work on and maintain. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty and actually love the simplicity and cost of a carb setup. I've already mentioned how road side repairs are much easier too. Not to mention every LS engine test done so far, carbs rain supreme on the dyno ![]() I don't mean to sound like a carb nut, I'm actually on both sides of the fence as I work on both and I own and drive both. They both have their place and an argument can be made either way. Everyone has their preference and a pocket book to work with. |
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Me neither but if you pat attention to the aftermarket they are starting to call'em classics. Though I don't really consider my truck old......But you know people considered '72 classics for years, although I don't get that either. Just like people calling '78 Malibus, '79 Mustangs and Caprices from the late 70's and 80's classics. I love reading some of the crap on CL where somebody is selling a " '80 Caprice Classic. Ready to restore and could be worth something 2k." Really?
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I am not talking about TBI,I am talking about all the newer computer controlled trucks out there now,too many sensors and stuff to deal with.Like firebird said,you need laptop,software etc to go along with it,or the GM dealership to service it.That computer controlled truck is great if you break down in town,but out in the bush where your miles from civilization,give me a carb any day!!! I can limp it home!!
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