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1969 GMC · 11-08-2003, 06:26 PM

here's another stupid question guys and gals...went to Napa today to grab an oil filter, my truck has a 350 with the canister type oil filter. the guy looked up '69 GMC in the filters manual, and it gave the PN for a screw on oil filter. I just had him get the PN for a '68 GMC, since it was the canister type. My question is this, when exactly did they stop using the canister type oil filter? Last time I went to the same Napa, the store owner looked up '69 GMC, and went and grabbed a canister filter off the shelf. One of the parts store regulars (those old guys that are always standing around in there) said that my engine "had to be from a '63 or earlier car or truck" because that is when they stopped using canisters, but I think he's wrong. Maybe I should just check Mortec, to see if I really do have a 350 and not something else, that would be indicated by the canister oil filter. Phew, sorry for the length, any info would be appreciated.

toms68cst · 11-08-2003, 07:32 PM

My 68 Chevy 327 was a cannister type. (I Want to go back to cannister someday) I don't remember where I heard this but I think that many chevy cars went to spin-on around 68. The trucks stayed with cannister until around 69-70? That's my understanding though it's not based on hard facts.

Perhaps you could make the assumption that MOST small journal small blocks were cannister type and MOST large journal small blocks were spin-on. The exception would be trucks which carried through a couple of years later with the cannister.

junkyardjohn · 11-08-2003, 08:00 PM

I'VE HAD EVERY YEAR (67-72) & EVERY ONE HAS HAD A SPIN-ON OIL FILTER, BUT SINCE I DIDN'T BUY ANY OF THEM NEW, I CAN'T SWEAR THEY CAME FROM G.M. THAT WAY.

cdowns · 11-08-2003, 08:15 PM

the 67chevy overhaul manual shows a spin-on type filter

1969 GMC · 11-08-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by junkyardjohn

I'VE HAD EVERY YEAR (67-72) & EVERY ONE HAS HAD A SPIN-ON OIL FILTER, BUT SINCE I DIDN'T BUY ANY OF THEM NEW, I CAN'T SWEAR THEY CAME FROM G.M. THAT WAY.

Hmm...I did forget about that kit you could buy to convert any canister type to a spin on. I don't really mind my canister, and it works a little better from what I've heard.

BtnkBndt · 11-08-2003, 10:57 PM

My 67 was canister, just converted it to spin-on.

***Josh*** · 11-08-2003, 11:04 PM

From everythign I've seen, almost all V8 trucks from 67-69 had teh cannister type. The striaght sixes had spin ons, some mid to late 69 V8s may have had spin ons also.

1969 GMC · 11-09-2003, 03:00 AM

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some mid to late 69 V8s may have had spin ons also.

thats what I was thinking, Josh. I know my GMC was an early production model, perhaps made in '68, because of the Rockwell t-case. Hmm.

thanks for the responses guys, keep em comin

69oldie · 11-09-2003, 05:06 AM

I had a 1969 Chevy truck that had a 396 engine with a cannister type and another 1969 Chevy truck that had a 307 engine with a cannister type.
Hope this helps

1969 GMC · 11-10-2003, 03:24 AM

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lukecp · 11-10-2003, 03:30 AM

One of my friends had a '67 C10 with an original 283....and a cannister oil filter.

I would run your numbers 1969 GMC....at least get the suffix code (2-3 letter code on a machined pad on the block infront of the passenger side cylinder head), and run them at www.nastyz28.com . Mortec.com dosent' have the suffix codes anywhere that i could find on their website.

palallin · 11-10-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by 1969 GMC
I know my GMC was an early production model, perhaps made in '68, because of the Rockwell t-case.

My '69 is late production and has the Rockwell. . . . .

1969 GMC · 11-10-2003, 06:37 PM

Lucas...where exactly is this pad? Can I see it with the engine in the truck and the manifolds on? I looked but couldn't find anything.

Palallin-i guess it just depended on what the assembly plants had sitting on the shelf. In '69 they were supposed to switch to the 205 but not all did.

lukecp · 11-10-2003, 07:00 PM

Here ya go Adam....i circled the pad in yellow. It is proably covered with grease....wipe it off and the letters are usually the last charcters stamped on the pad.

1969 GMC · 11-10-2003, 08:36 PM

thanks man...i came up with a TJM, which translated to a 73-74 350 from a bus? odd that it would have a canister still.

Ronster66 · 03-18-2020, 08:16 AM

So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice?

Ronster66 · 03-18-2020, 08:31 AM

So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice?

Andy4639 · 03-18-2020, 08:36 AM

All my trucks have spin on's. The 71 had it from factory. The 68 I just sold I swapped it to a spin on. I prefer it over the mess canister make.

The ramp truck has a spin on but it's not the motor that came in it. It's a Corvrtte motor 350 per the old owner!

Which by the way could be it had the corvette ram-horns on it when I got it. They are now on the 64 SS Impala though.

To answer your question I like the spin on filters much easier to do a change than the canister and not near as messy!

**Steeveedee** · 03-18-2020, 08:51 AM

I've changed 1000+ oil filters in my years as a mechanic. Picking that o-ring out of the block on the canister type filters is a time-consuming pain in the neck. I prefer the spin-on.

67C10Step · 03-18-2020, 09:03 AM

My 67 has been converted to spin on (283). Funny thing is three of the four toyota's I have are canister type. Go figure.

Ronster66 · 03-18-2020, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67C10Step

My 67 has been converted to spin on (283). Funny thing is three of the four toyota's I have are canister type. Go figure.

LOL! I have a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica and two 2016 Chrysler 200Â’s that have cartridge filters too. The difference is, theyÂ’re accessed from the top of the engine. They drain out when the drain plug is pulled. My dadÂ’s 2016 Chevy Equinox is the same way. Makes for a very nice, mess free oil and filter change. Quite a different set up than the SBC cartridge.

Steeveedee, your account/experience has thoroughly convinced me I did the right thing.

Thanks to all of you for your responses.

**chewychevy67** · 03-18-2020, 10:35 AM

I wanted to keep my canister so I did this little modification. I can drain the canister in about 10 minutes before I remove it.

Ronster66 · 03-18-2020, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewychevy67

I wanted to keep my canister so I did this little modification. I can drain the canister in about 10 minutes before I remove it.

That is a great idea and some good work. If I hadn’t already converted mine, I would definitely be giving that a shot.

**jocko** · 03-18-2020, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chewychevy67

I wanted to keep my canister so I did this little modification. I can drain the canister in about 10 minutes before I remove it.

Smarty pants. Ha, that's a great idea. I've had one too many oil baths in my life.

toms68cst · 03-19-2020, 06:48 AM

Or you could go with this. (Might be a bit tough in this day and age!)

11-08-2003, 06:26 PM	#1
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	canister vs. screw on oil filter here's another stupid question guys and gals...went to Napa today to grab an oil filter, my truck has a 350 with the canister type oil filter. the guy looked up '69 GMC in the filters manual, and it gave the PN for a screw on oil filter. I just had him get the PN for a '68 GMC, since it was the canister type. My question is this, when exactly did they stop using the canister type oil filter? Last time I went to the same Napa, the store owner looked up '69 GMC, and went and grabbed a canister filter off the shelf. One of the parts store regulars (those old guys that are always standing around in there) said that my engine "had to be from a '63 or earlier car or truck" because that is when they stopped using canisters, but I think he's wrong. Maybe I should just check Mortec, to see if I really do have a 350 and not something else, that would be indicated by the canister oil filter. Phew, sorry for the length, any info would be appreciated. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

11-08-2003, 07:32 PM	#2
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,296	My 68 Chevy 327 was a cannister type. (I Want to go back to cannister someday) I don't remember where I heard this but I think that many chevy cars went to spin-on around 68. The trucks stayed with cannister until around 69-70? That's my understanding though it's not based on hard facts. Perhaps you could make the assumption that MOST small journal small blocks were cannister type and MOST large journal small blocks were spin-on. The exception would be trucks which carried through a couple of years later with the cannister. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

11-08-2003, 08:00 PM	#3
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	I'VE HAD EVERY YEAR (67-72) & EVERY ONE HAS HAD A SPIN-ON OIL FILTER, BUT SINCE I DIDN'T BUY ANY OF THEM NEW, I CAN'T SWEAR THEY CAME FROM G.M. THAT WAY. __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

11-08-2003, 08:15 PM	#4
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	the 67chevy overhaul manual shows a spin-on type filter __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-08-2003, 11:04 PM	#7
*Josh* He's got mean nasty FANGS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 6,514	From everythign I've seen, almost all V8 trucks from 67-69 had teh cannister type. The striaght sixes had spin ons, some mid to late 69 V8s may have had spin ons also. __________________ 2004 K2500 Burb 1999 C3500 1985 Cutlass Supreme 1969 C-10 1967 C-10 Panel josh@67-72chevytrucks.com

11-08-2003, 10:57 PM	#6
BtnkBndt Pennyless Fool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Forney,Tx Posts: 439	My 67 was canister, just converted it to spin-on.

11-09-2003, 05:06 AM	#9
69oldie Never too many LONGHORNS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Los Angeles Calififornia Posts: 423	I had a 1969 Chevy truck that had a 396 engine with a cannister type and another 1969 Chevy truck that had a 307 engine with a cannister type. Hope this helps

11-10-2003, 03:24 AM	#10
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	T T T __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

11-10-2003, 03:30 AM	#11
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	One of my friends had a '67 C10 with an original 283....and a cannister oil filter. I would run your numbers 1969 GMC....at least get the suffix code (2-3 letter code on a machined pad on the block infront of the passenger side cylinder head), and run them at www.nastyz28.com . Mortec.com dosent' have the suffix codes anywhere that i could find on their website. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

11-10-2003, 06:37 PM	#13
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Lucas...where exactly is this pad? Can I see it with the engine in the truck and the manifolds on? I looked but couldn't find anything. Palallin-i guess it just depended on what the assembly plants had sitting on the shelf. In '69 they were supposed to switch to the 205 but not all did. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

11-10-2003, 07:00 PM	#14
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Here ya go Adam....i circled the pad in yellow. It is proably covered with grease....wipe it off and the letters are usually the last charcters stamped on the pad. Attached Images __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

11-10-2003, 08:36 PM	#15
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	thanks man...i came up with a TJM, which translated to a 73-74 350 from a bus? odd that it would have a canister still. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

03-18-2020, 08:16 AM	#16
Ronster66 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Columbia City, Indiana Posts: 30	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice? __________________ '66 Custom Cab BBW SWB Fleetside 327/TH350 Factory A/C ‘96 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie SLT Club Cab 4X4 8’ bed V10/47RE

03-18-2020, 08:31 AM	#17
Ronster66 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Columbia City, Indiana Posts: 30	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter So what is the consensus opinion on doing the conversion from canister/cartridge filter to spin-on filter? I converted my 327 (‘66 C10) to spin-on many years ago and I now wonder if I did the right thing. Other than nostalgia or “concours restoration” are there any arguments for keeping or, in my case, returning to the original canister/cartridge style oil filter? Any arguments for the spin-on filter being the better choice? __________________ '66 Custom Cab BBW SWB Fleetside 327/TH350 Factory A/C ‘96 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie SLT Club Cab 4X4 8’ bed V10/47RE

03-18-2020, 08:36 AM	#18
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter All my trucks have spin on's. The 71 had it from factory. The 68 I just sold I swapped it to a spin on. I prefer it over the mess canister make. The ramp truck has a spin on but it's not the motor that came in it. It's a Corvrtte motor 350 per the old owner! Which by the way could be it had the corvette ram-horns on it when I got it. They are now on the 64 SS Impala though. To answer your question I like the spin on filters much easier to do a change than the canister and not near as messy! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.



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03-18-2020, 08:51 AM	#19
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,677	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter I've changed 1000+ oil filters in my years as a mechanic. Picking that o-ring out of the block on the canister type filters is a time-consuming pain in the neck. I prefer the spin-on. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

03-18-2020, 09:03 AM	#20
67C10Step Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Beebe, AR Posts: 2,475	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter My 67 has been converted to spin on (283). Funny thing is three of the four toyota's I have are canister type. Go figure. __________________ 1967 C10 1980 Jeep CJ5 2020 Toyota 4Runner 2024 Toyota Tundra

03-18-2020, 10:35 AM	#22
chewychevy67 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here Posts: 5,551	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter I wanted to keep my canister so I did this little modification. I can drain the canister in about 10 minutes before I remove it. Attached Images

03-19-2020, 06:48 AM	#25
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,296	Re: canister vs. screw on oil filter Or you could go with this. (Might be a bit tough in this day and age!) Attached Images __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

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