ECE 2.5 drop spindle question - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

tmc1986 · 05-21-2013, 05:37 PM

i recently put the 4.5/6 drop from ECE on my 67. i did tierod ends while i was in there. i took the truck to an alignment shop and the guy said that the spindles wont work. he said that it bends the flexible brake hoses too much and that the turning radius isnt enough. seems to me the hoses are fine and it will turn lock to lock. has anybody had this problem before? he said the CPP spindles are are the worst of them all. supposedly this guy is the 67-72 truck guy in town. im going to find someone else to look at it, just wondering if anyone has heard this before.

**lolife99** · 05-21-2013, 05:41 PM

That's crazy.
That guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

You you have any pics of your suspension?

bugmasta · 05-21-2013, 05:59 PM

Find some one else cause every guy that has ever looked at my ECE spindles loves them. Guy is missing some marbles.
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tmc1986 · 05-21-2013, 06:27 PM

I'll try to get some pics. Thanks for the replys. I'll find someone else. I guess I was just ticked off because I did a 4 day marathon build on my truck and after all that hard work this guy tells me I have to take my new spindles off
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**lolife99** · 05-21-2013, 06:37 PM

I've got ECE spindles on my '71 2wd blazer.
No issues what so ever.

**leddzepp** · 05-21-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

That's crazy.
That guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

You you have any pics of your suspension?

X2
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Sklptrljay · 05-21-2013, 07:28 PM

I did the same thing and my friend who is the best mechanic I've ever known brought up some issues to me. He showed me how at a full turn the brake line can rub/stretch if they aren't in the correct position. We spent some time getting the banjo bolts to aim just the right way to minimize that chance of rubbing.
But other than that everything was cool. Maybe this is what your guy is seeing.
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badchev69 · 05-21-2013, 07:34 PM

I have 2.5" ECE spindles on my 69' C-10, no brake line issues and it drives straighter than my new pickup... They are a great part.

elf w/capital T · 05-21-2013, 07:42 PM

Twenty bucks says he just wanted money to replace them.

original-71 · 05-21-2013, 08:11 PM

he may know what hes talking about the Cpp's spindles but not the Ece's spindles

id go to someone else.

72BlckButy · 05-21-2013, 09:33 PM

I'd spend your money somewhere else... ECE products are what I run and will purchase in the future.
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**leddzepp** · 05-21-2013, 09:57 PM

Cpp and ece spindles are identical.
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mgchevyparts · 05-22-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

I'd spend your money somewhere else... ECE products are what I run and will purchase in the future.
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ECE buys spindles from Western, at least they did. Don't know if they will continue with Western since new owner bought Western and moved it to SoCal

tmc1986 · 05-22-2013, 01:25 AM

thanks for all the reply's. i had heard a ton of good things about ECE before purchasing them. they appear to be pretty much the same castings as the 71' spindles only the hub shaft is 2.5" higher. im sure there are more differences than that but nothing drastic. i think i would do something about the brake lines before taking the spindles back off anyway. different mounts or longer brakelines.

**70cst** · 05-22-2013, 06:33 AM

My vote also goes with ECE. I have them on my truck without any issues.

original-71 · 05-22-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Cpp and ece spindles are identical.
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really? if iam not mistaken mine say early classic on them, so they both are made by the same manufacture ? just interesting to know.

mgchevyparts · 05-25-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by original-71

really? if iam not mistaken mine say early classic on them, so they both are made by the same manufacture ? just interesting to know.

No, ECE made in USA.

**leddzepp** · 05-25-2013, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgchevyparts

ECE buys spindles from Western, at least they did. Don't know if they will continue with Western since new owner bought Western and moved it to SoCal

So does CPP, same thing...
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Tx Firefighter · 05-25-2013, 05:41 PM

I've opened CPP spindle boxes and found Western brand spindles inside. I also had Stan at ECE tell me he was out of "his" spindles but he could sell me a pair of his spindles with "Western" cast into them. They definitely all buy from the same place.

Problem is CPP customer service sucks horribly while ECE is stellar. That why I only order CPP stuff from a Summit so I know when it's in stock and will be shipped. Otherwise its ECE for me.
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Square_78 · 05-25-2013, 08:37 PM

That's funny because when I had a problem with my cpp order being delayed, Jeff from cpp went out of his way to follow up and call me back and then later email me and make sure I was happy. Customer service doesn't get any better than that. If you have problems call and and ask for Jeff and tell him U are a forum member here.
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Tx Firefighter · 05-25-2013, 08:53 PM

If you go to the review section of is board you'll see many posts from other members very dissatisfied with CPP. Then pay close attention to the build threads on here. There are many, many examples of folks buying from CPP and having issues with delivery times, missing or wrong parts, and more.

I'm very demanding of quality products and good service. I put price way down the list below those two considerations. If a company delivers quality products and service, I'm about the best cheerleader in the world. If they don't deliver that, I get loud mouth.

05-21-2013, 05:37 PM	#1
tmc1986 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: enumclaw, wa Posts: 143	ECE 2.5 drop spindle question i recently put the 4.5/6 drop from ECE on my 67. i did tierod ends while i was in there. i took the truck to an alignment shop and the guy said that the spindles wont work. he said that it bends the flexible brake hoses too much and that the turning radius isnt enough. seems to me the hoses are fine and it will turn lock to lock. has anybody had this problem before? he said the CPP spindles are are the worst of them all. supposedly this guy is the 67-72 truck guy in town. im going to find someone else to look at it, just wondering if anyone has heard this before. __________________ '67 2wd LWB 350/4speed.

05-21-2013, 05:41 PM	#2
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,702	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question That's crazy. That guy doesn't know what he is talking about. You you have any pics of your suspension? __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

05-21-2013, 05:59 PM	#3
bugmasta Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 272	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question Find some one else cause every guy that has ever looked at my ECE spindles loves them. Guy is missing some marbles. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 68 c20 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358130 Club longbed ...cause girls like'em long!!!!!

05-21-2013, 06:27 PM	#4
tmc1986 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: enumclaw, wa Posts: 143	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I'll try to get some pics. Thanks for the replys. I'll find someone else. I guess I was just ticked off because I did a 4 day marathon build on my truck and after all that hard work this guy tells me I have to take my new spindles off Posted via Mobile Device __________________ '67 2wd LWB 350/4speed.

05-21-2013, 06:37 PM	#5
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,702	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I've got ECE spindles on my '71 2wd blazer. No issues what so ever. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

05-21-2013, 07:28 PM	#7
Sklptrljay Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma Posts: 874	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I did the same thing and my friend who is the best mechanic I've ever known brought up some issues to me. He showed me how at a full turn the brake line can rub/stretch if they aren't in the correct position. We spent some time getting the banjo bolts to aim just the right way to minimize that chance of rubbing. But other than that everything was cool. Maybe this is what your guy is seeing. Posted via Mobile Device

05-21-2013, 07:34 PM	#8
badchev69 Active Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Stayton, Oregon 97383 Posts: 178	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I have 2.5" ECE spindles on my 69' C-10, no brake line issues and it drives straighter than my new pickup... They are a great part. __________________ 1969 C10 SWB /350 vortech/th400 1968 SWB build (in progress) 1969 SWB build (my son's future project) 1968 camaro yellow/white stripes (wife's car) 2011 GMC reg cab short bed 2wd daily driver 5/7 drop on 22's 1972 K5 Blazer 13"/11"lift,38"M/T MTZ's, 3" cust exst. 350/350 (sold it )

05-21-2013, 07:42 PM	#9
elf w/capital T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 994	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question Twenty bucks says he just wanted money to replace them.

05-21-2013, 08:11 PM	#10
original-71 ///Relaxed Atmosphere Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 1,266	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question he may know what hes talking about the Cpp's spindles but not the Ece's spindles id go to someone else. __________________ 71-Cheyenne Super (E.C.E Static Drop 4.5/7". Intro Rally's 20X8.5 5" B.S 255/35/20 (F) 20X10 5.25 B.S 275/35/20 (R) 87-Silverado Static Drop 5/7" Raceline Explosion 5 22X8.5 (F) 22X10 (R) hector _________________________________ 1971 Chevrolet Cheyenne Super 1987 Chevrolet Silverado 2006 Ford Mustang GT 2012 Toyota 4-Runner 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport Crew Cab

05-21-2013, 09:33 PM	#11
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I'd spend your money somewhere else... ECE products are what I run and will purchase in the future. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

05-21-2013, 09:57 PM	#12
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,052	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question Cpp and ece spindles are identical. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

05-22-2013, 01:25 AM	#14
tmc1986 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: enumclaw, wa Posts: 143	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question thanks for all the reply's. i had heard a ton of good things about ECE before purchasing them. they appear to be pretty much the same castings as the 71' spindles only the hub shaft is 2.5" higher. im sure there are more differences than that but nothing drastic. i think i would do something about the brake lines before taking the spindles back off anyway. different mounts or longer brakelines. __________________ '67 2wd LWB 350/4speed.

05-22-2013, 06:33 AM	#15
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,375	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question My vote also goes with ECE. I have them on my truck without any issues. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

05-25-2013, 05:41 PM	#19
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question I've opened CPP spindle boxes and found Western brand spindles inside. I also had Stan at ECE tell me he was out of "his" spindles but he could sell me a pair of his spindles with "Western" cast into them. They definitely all buy from the same place. Problem is CPP customer service sucks horribly while ECE is stellar. That why I only order CPP stuff from a Summit so I know when it's in stock and will be shipped. Otherwise its ECE for me. Posted via Mobile Device

05-25-2013, 08:37 PM	#20
Square_78 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC, Canada Posts: 1,237	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question That's funny because when I had a problem with my cpp order being delayed, Jeff from cpp went out of his way to follow up and call me back and then later email me and make sure I was happy. Customer service doesn't get any better than that. If you have problems call and and ask for Jeff and tell him U are a forum member here. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ #teamlongbed "I refuse to go disc brakes. I actually love drum brakes. It makes for an adventure." - 50bomb 1978 Chevy shop truck - static 6/8" 1970 GMC 1500 - Accuair eLevel Resto-mod http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=537497



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05-25-2013, 08:53 PM	#21
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: ECE 2.5 drop spindle question If you go to the review section of is board you'll see many posts from other members very dissatisfied with CPP. Then pay close attention to the build threads on here. There are many, many examples of folks buying from CPP and having issues with delivery times, missing or wrong parts, and more. I'm very demanding of quality products and good service. I put price way down the list below those two considerations. If a company delivers quality products and service, I'm about the best cheerleader in the world. If they don't deliver that, I get loud mouth.

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