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NONHOG · 09-25-2013, 02:02 PM

Something about a car in this stage is just really cool.

El Campo · 09-25-2013, 09:55 PM

It may not be an issue as you blasted it but Barry (at SPI) recommends to scuff everything with 80 grit prior to their epoxy. He even recommends it for items that were blasted with straight sand. I am not an expert and am not trying to tell you what to do at any point, only passing on what I read and talked to them about. Car is looking great!

Frizzle Fry · 09-25-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NONHOG

Something about a car in this stage is just really cool.

I know man

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Campo

It may not be an issue as you blasted it but Barry (at SPI) recommends to scuff everything with 80 grit prior to their epoxy. He even recommends it for items that were blasted with straight sand. I am not an expert and am not trying to tell you what to do at any point, only passing on what I read and talked to them about. Car is looking great!

You're right El Campo. I didn't want to convolute the details, but we are doing some testing of SPI vs PPG vs Valspar. If we go with SPI (as I expect we will) it will most likely be with the 80 prep.

theastronaut · 09-25-2013, 10:23 PM

Anxiously awaiting the epoxy test results!
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El Campo · 09-26-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theastronaut

Anxiously awaiting the epoxy test results!
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Agreed!!!

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Frizzle Fry · 09-29-2013, 05:42 AM

Should have some preliminary results this week.

UPLIFT · 10-04-2013, 04:21 AM

Mike I've been following your threads and your work is pure automotive artistry! Eloquently perfected! Kudos...

Frizzle Fry · 10-05-2013, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UPLIFT

Mike I've been following your threads and your work is pure automotive artistry! Eloquently perfected! Kudos...

Thanks man! Where in the bay area are you? I grew up in Sonoma. Still have family there.

Frizzle Fry · 10-23-2013, 10:38 AM

Just back from another 3+ weeks in Israel.

Car is still at the blaster/bodyshop. Hood and trunk lid were SPI epoxied yesterday. Here are the bare metal pics (no primered shots yet)

mcbassin · 10-23-2013, 11:13 AM

Nothing looks better than bare metal ready to shoot! Isreal? Man you get around. Hope they take good care of you.

Frizzle Fry · 10-24-2013, 06:24 PM

Crowne Plaza Tel Aviv Beach ...no complaints!

Picked up the hood and trunk lid. Will post pics after I unload them.

Graeme_B · 10-24-2013, 07:46 PM

Frizzel, how are you going to apply the epoxy primer to the parts you can't see like the seams and behind the frame of the boot (trunk). Even on the body itself there are lots of little inaccessable spots that a spraygun can't reach. I can't recal if the body was ever going to be dipped on not.

Low Elco · 10-24-2013, 09:45 PM

Bare metal. Nuthin better!

Frizzle Fry · 10-24-2013, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme_B

Frizzel, how are you going to apply the epoxy primer to the parts you can't see like the seams and behind the frame of the boot (trunk). Even on the body itself there are lots of little inaccessable spots that a spraygun can't reach. I can't recal if the body was ever going to be dipped on not.

Some of the rust prone areas like the pinch welds in the door bottoms and rocker panels will be treated with a liquid rust treatment (TBD) which will wick into the seams followed by a sealer.

Other areas which are not reached by the spray gun are even less effected by the media blasting, so those areas will remain as they have been since new.

The bottom line is the car will be more corrosion resistant than when new.

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Originally Posted by Low Elco

Bare metal. Nuthin better!

How about freshly epoxied metal?

MP&C · 10-24-2013, 11:08 PM

Looks good! That's the SPI epoxy, correct?

Frizzle Fry · 10-24-2013, 11:22 PM

Yep, SPI. It sprayed on and leveled out very nicely. It's supposed to be more sandable than most epoxies, and the sheen makes imperfections and sanded vs. non-sanded areas really stand out.

justcuz · 10-25-2013, 02:43 PM

So that is a little dent in the hood? Been a long time since I checked in on this project. Sounds like you have been busy too. Going to have to go back several pages and catch up.

76C10Stepside · 10-25-2013, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

How about freshly epoxied metal?

DAMN, that do look good!

Low Elco · 10-26-2013, 07:31 AM

Sexy! Epo'd clean metal makes Daddy happy! I've been using Nason's Epo, basically just a scratch coat for the mudwork, Slick Sand, etc. I'm gonna have to give that SPI stuff a whack, been hearing lots of good things about it. Parts are lookin' good!

Frizzle Fry · 10-27-2013, 09:37 AM

Yes there are imperfections in the metal. The primer is there to seal the bare metal, and that's where the body work begins.

So far I've been happy with the SPI. Did a little panel scratch test vs Valspar and it seemed like more material was removed from the Valspar side. Granted it was a very unscientific test, I didn't see any drawbacks to the SPI. Long-term performance only time will tell...

67ChevyRedneck · 10-27-2013, 11:04 AM

Uh oh... hood has a ding... time to cut it out and put a blower on it!

see ten · 10-28-2013, 08:55 PM

Shuffleboard?

theastronaut · 10-30-2013, 11:18 AM

That SPI looks great, I'll have to try it!

Frizzle Fry · 10-30-2013, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Uh oh... hood has a ding... time to cut it out and put a blower on it!

You had me looking into them again with that comment

There used to be a roots/twin-screw blower kit for the F20C. Seems it is no longer available

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Originally Posted by see ten

Shuffleboard?

It's rare that the shop is clear enough to see that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theastronaut

That SPI looks great, I'll have to try it!

So far so good. The online chatter seems to be all positive. The old-timer bodyman who spayed it was very skeptical about "new-fandangled products," but had nothing bad to say after using it.

Frizzle Fry · 11-01-2013, 12:36 PM

The blaster offered me the chance to get in on a blasting session. So yesterday I suited up and we got the rest of the shell done. I have a new-found respect for those guys - it's hard work maneuvering that gun and heavy hose around to get every angle. Meanwhile you are literally inside a giant blasting cabinet which can only be equated to a working in a torrential dust/sand storm! Very difficult to see most of the time. That's where team-work paid off. One was able to inspect while the other moved on.

Also, having the car on the rotisserie for blasting is the ONLY way to go IMO. Both for accessibility/thoroughness of the blast and removal of the media afterwards.

So the body is now moved to the clean side of the shop and being prepped/sanded for a few coats of SPI epoxy.

I'll get pics before it's shot.

09-25-2013, 02:02 PM	#1826
NONHOG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marana, Arizona Posts: 3,446	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Something about a car in this stage is just really cool. __________________ "I feel the need for speed!"... as soon as I am done with my nap.

09-25-2013, 09:55 PM	#1827
El Campo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: El Campo, Tx Posts: 1,246	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... It may not be an issue as you blasted it but Barry (at SPI) recommends to scuff everything with 80 grit prior to their epoxy. He even recommends it for items that were blasted with straight sand. I am not an expert and am not trying to tell you what to do at any point, only passing on what I read and talked to them about. Car is looking great! __________________ 72 Chevy blue LWB, 99% original Oklahoma truck, 28,000 miles 72 Chevy SWB: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=486626 (Attempt/Mistake #2) 2003 Harley Davidson Dyna Superglide with 2007 Street Bob front end 2000 Ford F350 Powerstroke 4WD CCLB, 310,000 miles running great (STOLEN St. Patricks Day 2014 AND NEVER RECOVERED) 2002 Ford F250 Powerstroke 4WD CCLB (To replace stolen one) Hook em Horns!!!

09-25-2013, 10:23 PM	#1829
theastronaut Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Anderson SC Posts: 3,897	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Anxiously awaiting the epoxy test results! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Project Goldilocks '66 C10 Short Fleet BBW Build '65 C10 Highly Detailed Stock Restoration Thread '78 Camaro Targa Roof Build '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work '66 F100 Full Rotisserie Restoration '40 Packard 120 Convertible Coupe Restoration How To Restore and Detail an Original Gauge Cluster How To Detail Sand Body Panels, Edges, Corners, Etc

09-29-2013, 05:42 AM	#1831
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Should have some preliminary results this week.

10-04-2013, 04:21 AM	#1832
UPLIFT Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: BAY AREA, CA Posts: 4	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Mike I've been following your threads and your work is pure automotive artistry! Eloquently perfected! Kudos...

10-23-2013, 10:38 AM	#1834
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Just back from another 3+ weeks in Israel. Car is still at the blaster/bodyshop. Hood and trunk lid were SPI epoxied yesterday. Here are the bare metal pics (no primered shots yet)

10-23-2013, 11:13 AM	#1835
mcbassin Still Learning Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 10,108	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Nothing looks better than bare metal ready to shoot! Isreal? Man you get around. Hope they take good care of you. __________________ Mike "69 Short Wide" My Project 86 Silverado Landen's Project Instagram: @mcbassin My Website C/10 Club Oklahoma Facebook Group

10-24-2013, 06:24 PM	#1836
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Crowne Plaza Tel Aviv Beach ...no complaints! Picked up the hood and trunk lid. Will post pics after I unload them.

10-24-2013, 07:46 PM	#1837
Graeme_B Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 24	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Frizzel, how are you going to apply the epoxy primer to the parts you can't see like the seams and behind the frame of the boot (trunk). Even on the body itself there are lots of little inaccessable spots that a spraygun can't reach. I can't recal if the body was ever going to be dipped on not.

10-24-2013, 09:45 PM	#1838
Low Elco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indep, MO Posts: 5,893	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Bare metal. Nuthin better! __________________ Boppa's Old Yeller Truck Build, Old Yeller's New Heart! Project Buzz Bomb Flyin' Low!

10-24-2013, 11:08 PM	#1840
MP&C Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Leonardtown, MD Posts: 1,647	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Looks good! That's the SPI epoxy, correct? __________________ Robert

10-24-2013, 11:22 PM	#1841
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Yep, SPI. It sprayed on and leveled out very nicely. It's supposed to be more sandable than most epoxies, and the sheen makes imperfections and sanded vs. non-sanded areas really stand out.

10-25-2013, 02:43 PM	#1842
justcuz Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, Ca. Posts: 930	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... So that is a little dent in the hood? Been a long time since I checked in on this project. Sounds like you have been busy too. Going to have to go back several pages and catch up.

10-26-2013, 07:31 AM	#1844
Low Elco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indep, MO Posts: 5,893	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Sexy! Epo'd clean metal makes Daddy happy! I've been using Nason's Epo, basically just a scratch coat for the mudwork, Slick Sand, etc. I'm gonna have to give that SPI stuff a whack, been hearing lots of good things about it. Parts are lookin' good! __________________ Boppa's Old Yeller Truck Build, Old Yeller's New Heart! Project Buzz Bomb Flyin' Low!

10-27-2013, 09:37 AM	#1845
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Yes there are imperfections in the metal. The primer is there to seal the bare metal, and that's where the body work begins. So far I've been happy with the SPI. Did a little panel scratch test vs Valspar and it seemed like more material was removed from the Valspar side. Granted it was a very unscientific test, I didn't see any drawbacks to the SPI. Long-term performance only time will tell...



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10-27-2013, 11:04 AM	#1846
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10-28-2013, 08:55 PM	#1847
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Shuffleboard?

10-30-2013, 11:18 AM	#1848
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11-01-2013, 12:36 PM	#1850
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... The blaster offered me the chance to get in on a blasting session. So yesterday I suited up and we got the rest of the shell done. I have a new-found respect for those guys - it's hard work maneuvering that gun and heavy hose around to get every angle. Meanwhile you are literally inside a giant blasting cabinet which can only be equated to a working in a torrential dust/sand storm! Very difficult to see most of the time. That's where team-work paid off. One was able to inspect while the other moved on. Also, having the car on the rotisserie for blasting is the ONLY way to go IMO. Both for accessibility/thoroughness of the blast and removal of the media afterwards. So the body is now moved to the clean side of the shop and being prepped/sanded for a few coats of SPI epoxy. I'll get pics before it's shot.

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