PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

hussler · 07-26-2017, 01:09 AM

Hi. (Working on1968 C-10) I am not having any luck finding the right answers... I'm desperate I have a show and shine this weekend and I got stuck at how do I get this van tilt column to fit in my 68 C-10
The only joint is the rag joint. Someone please help what do I need to complete this swap? Or am I SCREWED. Sorry for begging but that what it's come down to.. here's some pix of what I have going on...
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hussler · 07-26-2017, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hussler

Hi. (Working on1968 C-10) I am not having any luck finding the right answers... I'm desperate I have a show and shine this weekend and I got stuck at how do I get this van tilt column to fit in my 68 C-10
The only joint is the rag joint. Someone please help what do I need to complete this swap? Or am I SCREWED. Sorry for begging but that what it's come down to.. here's some pix of what I have going on...
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*randy500* · 07-26-2017, 01:44 AM

69 to 72 have an intermediate shaft which connects between the column and the rAg joint, you need one of those and you will need to collapse it about 1.5 inches to accommodate the extra shaft length of the van column. Do a search here on the form for the details on how to collapse the shaft, its its clean and not rusty the easiest way is to bang the ag joint end on a concrete floor, quick and easy that way.

hussler · 07-26-2017, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by randy500

69 to 72 have an intermediate shaft which connects between the column and the rAg joint, you need one of those and you will need to collapse it about 1.5 inches to accommodate the extra shaft length of the van column. Do a search here on the form for the details on how to collapse the shaft, its its clean and not rusty the easiest way is to bang the ag joint end on a concrete floor, quick and easy that way.

Ahhh That makes sense...Now to find a intermittent shaft. Thanks randy500

**special-K** · 07-26-2017, 05:53 AM

Are those your columns in the pictures? Looks like you have a non-tilt 69-72 column with lower shaft right there. Just swap that over.

**LockDoc** · 07-26-2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Are those your columns in the pictures? Looks like you have a non-tilt 69-72 column with lower shaft right there. Just swap that over.

I think that is the '67-'68 one piece shaft Tim.

LockDoc

**special-K** · 07-27-2017, 08:15 AM

Ok, sorry for the bad info. Thought that was a coupler. That area is all dark on my computer. Must have glanced over the second picture. I have one if needed. Won't help for this weekend. I hope you find one before the show.

hussler · 07-27-2017, 08:04 PM

Ok.. so i picked up a intermediate shaft yesterday and cleaned it all up also drilled out the plastic stoppers needed a little heat and collapsed it 1-1/2" hopefully will install tonight. Whats the best way to install the column? should i put it together first out side the truck? wheels are turned straight right now how can i make sure i line up the spline on the steering wheel end so my steering wheel is centered properly? Or does it even matter on our trucks?

*randy500* · 07-27-2017, 08:51 PM

The rag joint intermediate shaft and the column each only install one way.

*randy500* · 07-27-2017, 08:53 PM

It is extremely baffling to me why people feel the need to drill out those plastic injection points...does anybody really feel those would take any measureable amount of force to shear?

**Dieselwrencher** · 07-27-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by randy500

It is extremely baffling to me why people feel the need to drill out those plastic injection points...does anybody really feel those would take any measureable amount of force to shear?

Have you tried to collapse one by hand? With a hammer? They just don't pop and slide with minimal force. Maybe they did when they were new or 2-5 years after that. Then throw into the equation rust/corrosion and it just became nearly solid.

*randy500* · 07-27-2017, 10:10 PM

I've done dozens by hand, bang it onto the concrete floor, did one recently.
The plastic isn't holding anything in place, it's the rust that holds them. In good shape the plastic shears with the first solid hit and I don't hit it very hard.

**Dieselwrencher** · 07-28-2017, 12:21 AM

Then you're very lucky you don't live in the rust belt.

hussler · 07-28-2017, 12:33 AM

Hmmm I tried several times banging it against concret floor also took a 5lbs sledge hammer to it wouldn't budge until i drilled it plus Kroll penetrating spray and heat then it moved. Couldn't get to it tonight to finish the swap but tomorrow after work, then head out to the show & shine Sat morning, fingers crossed all goes well.

**LockDoc** · 07-28-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Then you're very lucky you don't live in the rust belt.

I've never got one to move on it's own either. It's heat, penetrating oil, and a big vise for me...... I have two to do next week.

LockDoc

**Dieselwrencher** · 07-28-2017, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

I've never got one to move on it's own either. It's heat, penetrating oil, and a big vise for me...... I have two to do next week.

LockDoc

Same here. I guess we need to get some from WA to save some stress and time.

A whole truck would be sweet. Maybe someday.

67 chevelle · 07-28-2017, 10:37 AM

had to put heat to mine to get it moving , it was difficult , doing it installed , with a large prybar and heat

07-26-2017, 01:09 AM	#1
hussler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 30	PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Hi. (Working on1968 C-10) I am not having any luck finding the right answers... I'm desperate I have a show and shine this weekend and I got stuck at how do I get this van tilt column to fit in my 68 C-10 The only joint is the rag joint. Someone please help what do I need to complete this swap? Or am I SCREWED. Sorry for begging but that what it's come down to.. here's some pix of what I have going on... Posted via Mobile Device

07-26-2017, 01:44 AM	#3
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 69 to 72 have an intermediate shaft which connects between the column and the rAg joint, you need one of those and you will need to collapse it about 1.5 inches to accommodate the extra shaft length of the van column. Do a search here on the form for the details on how to collapse the shaft, its its clean and not rusty the easiest way is to bang the ag joint end on a concrete floor, quick and easy that way.

07-26-2017, 05:53 AM	#5
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Are those your columns in the pictures? Looks like you have a non-tilt 69-72 column with lower shaft right there. Just swap that over. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-27-2017, 08:15 AM	#7
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Ok, sorry for the bad info. Thought that was a coupler. That area is all dark on my computer. Must have glanced over the second picture. I have one if needed. Won't help for this weekend. I hope you find one before the show. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-27-2017, 08:04 PM	#8
hussler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 30	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Ok.. so i picked up a intermediate shaft yesterday and cleaned it all up also drilled out the plastic stoppers needed a little heat and collapsed it 1-1/2" hopefully will install tonight. Whats the best way to install the column? should i put it together first out side the truck? wheels are turned straight right now how can i make sure i line up the spline on the steering wheel end so my steering wheel is centered properly? Or does it even matter on our trucks? Attached Images

07-27-2017, 08:51 PM	#9
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 The rag joint intermediate shaft and the column each only install one way.

07-27-2017, 08:53 PM	#10
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 It is extremely baffling to me why people feel the need to drill out those plastic injection points...does anybody really feel those would take any measureable amount of force to shear?

07-27-2017, 10:10 PM	#12
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 I've done dozens by hand, bang it onto the concrete floor, did one recently. The plastic isn't holding anything in place, it's the rust that holds them. In good shape the plastic shears with the first solid hit and I don't hit it very hard.

07-28-2017, 12:21 AM	#13
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Then you're very lucky you don't live in the rust belt. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

07-28-2017, 12:33 AM	#14
hussler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 30	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 Hmmm I tried several times banging it against concret floor also took a 5lbs sledge hammer to it wouldn't budge until i drilled it plus Kroll penetrating spray and heat then it moved. Couldn't get to it tonight to finish the swap but tomorrow after work, then head out to the show & shine Sat morning, fingers crossed all goes well.

07-28-2017, 10:37 AM	#17
67 chevelle Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: WEST PALM FLORIDA Posts: 1,174	Re: PLEASE HELP Trying to Install A van tilt in 68 had to put heat to mine to get it moving , it was difficult , doing it installed , with a large prybar and heat __________________ 68 Long Fleet , ly6 , turbo 350 , 3-5 drop , original paint , front discs 67 Small window , 7 foot bed , tweaked 6.0 LSX 2004R Medium Olive 58 Apache fleet , 235 , offy intake , dual exhaust , 4 on the floor , red/white 69 Long Fleet , Custom , 6.0, 4l60 , AC , Medium Olive

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