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crm318 · 10-20-2004, 02:18 PM

my window will not crank down efficiently (i have to work it). i tried to get to it by takeing the panel off but its impossible to work on it. can i do this job or will the door have to be taken apart?

hotrodhomi · 10-20-2004, 02:29 PM

have you tried silicon lube?

crm318 · 10-20-2004, 03:24 PM

its not that its unlubed. when i crank it, the wind goes down in increments. i think that the cranke might be missing teeth of its out of allignment. i need to get to it somehow but i have no access

mhicks · 10-20-2004, 03:47 PM

Mine did that and replacing the window channel felt fixed it.

crm318 · 10-20-2004, 04:57 PM

another thing, when i push the lock doen and close the door it still opens. when i close the door and lock from the outside, it still opens

lukecp · 10-20-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crm318

another thing, when i push the lock doen and close the door it still opens. when i close the door and lock from the outside, it still opens

My truck does the same thing. I assumed they all did it. Actually quite nice, impossible to lock the keys in the truck.

crm318 · 10-21-2004, 02:23 PM

it must be a common problem. i wonder how it can be fixed?

jimfulco · 10-21-2004, 11:26 PM

It's not broken. They're supposed to do that so you don't lock yourself out. Chevy trucks all did that back then, same as many Ford cars & trucks did. You have to use the key to lock it. I always thought it was mighty strange that you could lock a car without a key, but then I was raised around Fords.

LONGHAIR · 10-22-2004, 12:44 AM

engine and drivetrain?????????

crm318 · 10-23-2004, 12:31 AM

i cant lock it at all. it wont lock with or with out the key.

Blue Beard · 10-23-2004, 07:27 AM

Could be that someone else had the door apart before.

The lock issue could be reinstalled wrong.

XXL · 10-23-2004, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimfulco

...but then I was raised around Fords.

I'm sorry to hear that

BTW OP, Suspension forum??

kewlbear · 10-25-2004, 09:58 PM

Does the window drop a little when you crank it up or down. If so your window crank gear is bad. Replace it with new one, junk yard one not worth the trouble. You can buy that whole piece (regulator) new for under $75. As for the door thats the way they supposed work, you cant lock it then close it cause it unlocks its self, passenger side same way has to be lock from inside, but if you close it and use key it should lock. If not then something outta whack somewhere.

crm318 · 10-26-2004, 01:54 AM

yea, its got to be the gear. how do i get access to the regulator? im worried about getting everythig out an not being to get everything back in

kewlbear · 10-26-2004, 02:39 PM

Its not to hard to get out. There should be four big phillips screws in a rectangle pattern, one on top and one on bottom of crank shaft and two more three or four inches down. Make sure you roll window all the way up and wrap some strong tape from inside of window over the door to the outside of window to hold the glass up. Then take crank handle off and then those four screws now the fun part. There should be a small gap in the middle of the metal track on the bottom of the glass, this is where one of the regulator roller has to come thru. Then drop it out and out of your way and do the other roller same way, I think the last roller will go out either end also, been awhile since I done mine. Once you look at it you will see what im talking bout, then once you get it loose from window fold scissors flat and bring it thru the hole in the door, believe it or not it will fit thru this hole, if you hold you tongue right. Anything else I missed guys, its not as hard as it looks. I thought the samething when I first done mine, there no way to get to that out. You should look at new trucks with power window motor on it, makes these old truck look easy. Maybe this info will help, or somebody on here can add anything I missed. Like I siad been awhile since I done mine, I've done couple newer trucks since.

crm318 · 10-26-2004, 03:14 PM

thanks, ill give it a shot

jakeslim · 10-30-2004, 12:59 AM

I've done a few of these(3), it is not that easy to get the mechanism free. Sometimes it will slip right out of window track and sometimes, like the last time i did it, it took alot of arm scraping to manuever inside the door. Anyways, I alway grease the gears and mechanism with lots of heavy duty bearing grease so that it holds. Sprays are short lived and require more frequent lubing in my opinion

Tx Firefighter · 10-30-2004, 06:43 AM

Moving this to the 67-72 section.

10-20-2004, 02:18 PM	#1
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	window crank access my window will not crank down efficiently (i have to work it). i tried to get to it by takeing the panel off but its impossible to work on it. can i do this job or will the door have to be taken apart? __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-20-2004, 03:24 PM	#3
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	its not that its unlubed. when i crank it, the wind goes down in increments. i think that the cranke might be missing teeth of its out of allignment. i need to get to it somehow but i have no access __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-20-2004, 04:57 PM	#5
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	another thing, when i push the lock doen and close the door it still opens. when i close the door and lock from the outside, it still opens __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-21-2004, 02:23 PM	#7
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	it must be a common problem. i wonder how it can be fixed? __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-23-2004, 12:31 AM	#10
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	i cant lock it at all. it wont lock with or with out the key. __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-20-2004, 02:29 PM	#2
hotrodhomi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,737	have you tried silicon lube?

10-20-2004, 03:47 PM	#4
mhicks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Weatherford,Tx Posts: 747	Mine did that and replacing the window channel felt fixed it.

10-21-2004, 11:26 PM	#8
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	It's not broken. They're supposed to do that so you don't lock yourself out. Chevy trucks all did that back then, same as many Ford cars & trucks did. You have to use the key to lock it. I always thought it was mighty strange that you could lock a car without a key, but then I was raised around Fords.

10-22-2004, 12:44 AM	#9
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	engine and drivetrain?????????

10-23-2004, 07:27 AM	#11
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	Could be that someone else had the door apart before. The lock issue could be reinstalled wrong. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

10-25-2004, 09:58 PM	#13
kewlbear Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 34	Does the window drop a little when you crank it up or down. If so your window crank gear is bad. Replace it with new one, junk yard one not worth the trouble. You can buy that whole piece (regulator) new for under $75. As for the door thats the way they supposed work, you cant lock it then close it cause it unlocks its self, passenger side same way has to be lock from inside, but if you close it and use key it should lock. If not then something outta whack somewhere. __________________ 64 Chevy pickup tilt,pb, ps discs up front 350/TH350, 72 rearend auto meter gauges 93 GMC extended cab trailmaster conversion Last edited by kewlbear; 10-25-2004 at 10:08 PM.

10-26-2004, 01:54 AM	#14
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	yea, its got to be the gear. how do i get access to the regulator? im worried about getting everythig out an not being to get everything back in __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-26-2004, 02:39 PM	#15
kewlbear Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 34	Its not to hard to get out. There should be four big phillips screws in a rectangle pattern, one on top and one on bottom of crank shaft and two more three or four inches down. Make sure you roll window all the way up and wrap some strong tape from inside of window over the door to the outside of window to hold the glass up. Then take crank handle off and then those four screws now the fun part. There should be a small gap in the middle of the metal track on the bottom of the glass, this is where one of the regulator roller has to come thru. Then drop it out and out of your way and do the other roller same way, I think the last roller will go out either end also, been awhile since I done mine. Once you look at it you will see what im talking bout, then once you get it loose from window fold scissors flat and bring it thru the hole in the door, believe it or not it will fit thru this hole, if you hold you tongue right. Anything else I missed guys, its not as hard as it looks. I thought the samething when I first done mine, there no way to get to that out. You should look at new trucks with power window motor on it, makes these old truck look easy. Maybe this info will help, or somebody on here can add anything I missed. Like I siad been awhile since I done mine, I've done couple newer trucks since. __________________ 64 Chevy pickup tilt,pb, ps discs up front 350/TH350, 72 rearend auto meter gauges 93 GMC extended cab trailmaster conversion

10-26-2004, 03:14 PM	#16
crm318 Alright Alright Alright Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,672	thanks, ill give it a shot __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Chevrolet red and white 357ci, Vortec heads, GM Performance high rise intake, Comp 268H .454/.454 218/218 110 LSA Quadrajet carb, Flowtech headers, 2.25 40 series HEI, Curve kit, TH 350, 3.07 gears 275/60/15s on 15x8 rallies

10-30-2004, 12:59 AM	#17
jakeslim Premium Level Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern CA Posts: 829	I've done a few of these(3), it is not that easy to get the mechanism free. Sometimes it will slip right out of window track and sometimes, like the last time i did it, it took alot of arm scraping to manuever inside the door. Anyways, I alway grease the gears and mechanism with lots of heavy duty bearing grease so that it holds. Sprays are short lived and require more frequent lubing in my opinion



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