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Custer had a plan too.
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: No. California
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Crazy or Should I Switch my 72 lwb 4x4 for an 85 swb 4x4?
Any thoughts on why I should/shouldn't switch from my 72 lwb GMC 4x4 to an 85 swb GMC 4x4?
85: air, good paint and body, interior nice, NO RUST!, stock, 127K miles, two tanks. Better than single digit mpg (I hope). 72: Fewer on the road, poster child for smog controls, poor brakes if you've been following my posts, moderate cab rust per California standards (mint back east I hear), needs body work/paint to make presentable. Gots 69-72 tow hooks and soon to have a tach dash. Anybody know of any major gremlins in 85 trucks? Financially, I think I could get around $3k for the 72. I would need that plus $1.5k to cover the 85. I think I would be $ ahead in 12 months though at the rate I'm putting $ into the 72. Am I nuts or should I?
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72 K15 GMC (aka Big White) Performance Rockers, Cab Corners, and Floors Fossil Fuel Glutton Neighborhood Nuisance 98 BMW 540i for Speed (Sold ![]() 05 Subaru Outback for mileage |
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its all about the +6 inches
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Personally, I'd never even consider it.
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Yeah, I think your crazy. I wouln't consider it either.
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Got Light Emitting Diode?
Join Date: Apr 2004
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i agree with above. here in portland, i would have to deal with DEQ, and thats no fun with a truck, unless its brand new
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Embrace the Redneck
Join Date: Jan 2004
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consider? what's to consider? um a trade a 72 for a 85. unless he's giving you money in the deal there shouldn't be any considering.
nuff said. sswj
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Didn't you notice the difference between the swelte, stylish lines of your 72 and the fat, boxey lines of that 85?
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67-72's just look better
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its all about the +6 inches
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besides, if you get a 73 - 87, you'll be nothing but an average joe.
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Put the $1500 into your`72.Did anyone mention Chicks dig them?Don`t let the rust bother you.It`s slow to grow in CA and won`t come back in a hurry either,if you do fix it.And,if you do,you`ll have a bichin`truck.`85`s are no spring chickens.They are lookin`classy these days,being a couple of styles back now.They are built basically the same as our earlier trucks and they are the last chance to get a good ol`4wd IMO.Giving up the better looks of the `72.You gotta admit,they nailed it with the 67-72 body design.Looks aren`t everything and if you need to make a practicle decision and what you are considering seems practicle(I know,it`s a sad day),then go for it.You crazy s.o.b.
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"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ |
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Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
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The only benifit I could see would be that the '85 most likely has OD, I think GM started adding to every vehicle around '83. I hear fuel is really expensive in cali...it's currently 1.54/gal here. Personally, I'd keep the GMC. Not nearly as many GMC's around as Chevys, especially 4X4! There is also a lot of smog crap that can break and a lot of extra crap under the hood on the '85. I think you know what to do
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IMO, 73-87s have no charm, no character, nothing to make them lovable, while the 67-72s ooze personality. Remember, an '85 is still an old truck and will require maintenance and repairs - and will have more complexity and be harder to work on - not to mention the smog equipment.
Keep the '72, fix the brakes, you'll be much happier. If you can't fix it, sell it and buy a better 67-72. $.02 ![]()
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Consider it???? NEVER!!!!
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Well you will end up working on both............... so............ the older truck is easier and cheaper to work on.
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Custer had a plan too.
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Hmm, there seems to be a slant to the responses...
I was thinking you guys on the 67-72 Board could be impartial. I guess I was wrong. ![]()
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72 K15 GMC (aka Big White) Performance Rockers, Cab Corners, and Floors Fossil Fuel Glutton Neighborhood Nuisance 98 BMW 540i for Speed (Sold ![]() 05 Subaru Outback for mileage |
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Impartial, is not the issue. What you are asking the 67-72 guys is like asking a guy who absolutely LOVES a pastrami sandwich to trade it for a peanut butter and AVERAGE jelly sandwich....gosh I must be hungry LOL!!!!
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Don't do it.
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I have several 71-72s and an 85 so I can understand what everybody else is saying. I agree that they will both need work...don't forget that even an 85 is now 20 years old.
I would imagine that drivetrain is much heavier duty in your 72? NP205 transfer case vs some cheapy in the 1/2 ton 85. I'm sure the rest of the drivetrain in the 85 doesn't stack up either. My 85 has a hydraulic clutch which is a piece of crapola. I like both models but the 72 has more character. I am starting to get more attention everyday with my 85 since it is a clean rust free truck. They are about gone around here. |
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Try asking your question on the the 73-87 board.See what happens.
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"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ |
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Hmmmm, would you trade Metallica for some disco?
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Not a bad nut after all..
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As Dean mentioned, the '85 has a NP208 transfer case (chain drive aluminum case). It is fine, but the NP205 in your '72 is better. The '85 has a 10-bolt rear end. Again functional, but the 12-bolt in your '72 is better. The '85 probably had a smog equiped 305 engine originally. Functional, but your '72 had better. See the pattern?
The '85 is a nice truck, but I wouldn't trade if I were you. |
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Custer had a plan too.
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: No. California
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Ok, Ok!
First of all there is no need to be rude and ask if I would trade for some disco. That is just wrong. I have sobered up and passed on the 85 idea. I was temporarily seduced by the rust free, air conditioned, straight body paneled, dark side. I have let go of my hate, Obi Wan. Warts and all, I will stick with the 72. Thanks guys.
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72 K15 GMC (aka Big White) Performance Rockers, Cab Corners, and Floors Fossil Fuel Glutton Neighborhood Nuisance 98 BMW 540i for Speed (Sold ![]() 05 Subaru Outback for mileage Last edited by avejoe; 01-05-2005 at 10:13 PM. |
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Hey Randy,I didn`t take you for an ol`Disco Duck.I figured you`d have all that southern-rock that was thrivin`at the same time.Good luck gettin`rid of that!!See me smilin`?
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In 12 month that 72 is still gonna be worth more in parts than the 85 typically.
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