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my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 07:52 PM

I have a tilt column that came with the 71 burban I bought it looks brand new. the guy said it was completely rebuilt and it looks it. I'm not going to put it in the sub. so its for sale till sunday then it hits fleebay $300 shipped and insured.
paypal accepted. picture link below.
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LUV2XCLR8 · 07-21-2005, 07:54 PM

Very nice tilt

But where are you located

**PICKMUP** · 07-21-2005, 08:25 PM

It has the short shaft, like a pu, but arms off a van. Is it a converted van? Where is the neutral switch located?

my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 08:29 PM

I'm in Indiana, converted van ? I thought the van columns had the long steering shaft ? There is no place for a neutral switch. the levers where on the column when I got it.

RicksTrucks · 07-21-2005, 08:31 PM

van tilts are shorter

my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 08:34 PM

van tilts are shorter ? so the steering shaft for the van is shorter then the truck ?
I am so confused.

RicksTrucks · 07-21-2005, 08:35 PM

I have seen van tilts in trucks and the main thing I have noticed is that the steering wheel is closer to the dash.

my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 08:39 PM

okay ... lets call it a van column.... cuz I really dont know.. mybe this was a bad idea I just thought someone could use the column.

RicksTrucks · 07-21-2005, 08:41 PM

may want to just give dimensions and let them decide what it is they want.

greenhorn male · 07-21-2005, 08:55 PM

I put my truck and van tilts side by side and the housing dimensions are identical. The van steering shaft is longer and the neutral safety switch location is higher on the column.

I used to have a van tilt with no neutral safety switch at all on the column. I think it was from a later van which may have had the neutral safety on the tranny.

my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 09:03 PM

Good Idea ... Here ya go
The end Shaft is 3/4" Splined and overall Length is 36 1/2" (tip to tip) Main Body Diameter is 2" The Upper Housing Diameter is 4"

my72k20 · 07-21-2005, 09:05 PM

so there should be a neutral safety switch on the column if its for a truck ?

**Hart_Rod** · 07-21-2005, 09:58 PM

How can you tell if the shift arm is off of a van?

Rob

HuggerCST · 07-21-2005, 11:25 PM

Van shift levers are shorter than truck shift levers. The shift lever looks like it is from a truck to me, but I agree that the turn signal & tilt levers are van, or are from a later model truck. All of the 67-72 truck turn signal & tilt levers that I have seen had the smaller, hard plastic ends, not rubber like those. I'm not sure about the neutral safety switch, but I know some vans did have the switch on the trans. It looks like a nice column either way, and once it's in, who's gonna know the difference?

**special-K** · 07-22-2005, 05:33 AM

I`ve used van tilts in trucks.Looks authentic.You just have to move the neutral safety switch to the truck position.Van tilts have a lower price range than truck columns.

my72k20 · 07-22-2005, 08:44 AM

I think the column is for a Truck. I have done some looking on the net and it looks to be the real deal, I do agree that the turn and tilt lever are not correct. I do think the shift lever is correct.

hgs_notes · 07-22-2005, 10:24 AM

I just bought a van tilt from supposedly a 76 van. It has the neutral safety switch. I was wondering though, why does the switch need to be moved? Won't it fit in the truck in the original position? Is it the wiring?

HG

86swb · 07-22-2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hgs_notes

I was wondering though, why does the switch need to be moved? Won't it fit in the truck in the original position? Is it the wiring?

HG

I agree, why does it have to be moved?

**tnblazerk5** · 07-22-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86swb

I agree, why does it have to be moved?

on a van tilt the switch hits sumthing(the firewall i think) under the dash in a truck, so it has to be moved up not to hit

and that looks like a truck tilt to me

**tnblazerk5** · 07-22-2005, 12:11 PM

hers a tread on how to mod a van tilt
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=dremel+column

hgs_notes · 07-22-2005, 02:27 PM

Sorry about usurping this thread. I just did some measuring of my 76 van tilt and found the neural switch is 17" from the top of the column. So I measure down that far from my still installed 3 on the tree non tilt column and that puts it just below the brackets for the brake and clutch pedal, with room above it for the wiring. The original switch is nestled right next to the fire wall. I guess I don't see the point in moving the switch if it works where it is at. If I move it down 6" or so, that would put it down by the firewall, but I don't really see any advantage to this.

If anyone has more info on this, I would sure love to hear it. BTW, another FAQ thread has more info than the one posted above. Try this:
FAQ for installing van tilt

HG

greenhorn male · 07-22-2005, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my72k20

so there should be a neutral safety switch on the column if its for a truck ?

my72...there should be a neutral safety switch on the column if it is an automatic, tilt or non-tilt, truck or van. Some newer keyless automatic van columns had no provision for a neutral safety switch because the switch is on the tranny. In your picture it appears that there is no cut-out for the neutral safety switch on the tube (cut-out is up high for a van, and low for a truck). So, because of this and the fact that it has van type levers, some are suspecting that it is a converted later van tilt. Nothing wrong if done correctly but someone still has to fabricate a neutral safety switch into it, to use it as an automatic. Or, do as I did in my last 4x4, bypass the switch altogether

. But I have been known to do odd things.

Good luck on your sale!

HGS..I was told the upper switch position on the van tilt may get in the way of the brake pedal bracket movement. Why don't you clamp your tilt on real quick and depress your pedals and let us know if it really gets in the way. If not then it won't be necessary to move it. Let us know, I am curious.

bagged91 · 07-22-2005, 04:33 PM

Is the PRND21 indicator housing metal or plastic???? I had a mid 80's motorhome tilt that looked pretty close to a truck tilt but the shift lever at the bottom of the column was slightly different and the indicator housing was black plastic...

Nice column ya got either way...

Good Luck on the sale.

L8R - Joe

my72k20 · 07-22-2005, 08:09 PM

the indicator housing is metal. Thanks for all the input

my72k20 · 07-23-2005, 09:56 AM

^ up up

07-21-2005, 07:52 PM	#1
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	69-72 truck tilt column I have a tilt column that came with the 71 burban I bought it looks brand new. the guy said it was completely rebuilt and it looks it. I'm not going to put it in the sub. so its for sale till sunday then it hits fleebay $300 shipped and insured. paypal accepted. picture link below. http://tinypic.com/97tgrs.jpg http://tinypic.com/97tgu1.jpg http://tinypic.com/97tgy0.jpg http://tinypic.com/97tgzp.jpg Last edited by my72k20; 07-21-2005 at 07:52 PM.

07-21-2005, 07:54 PM	#2
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Very nice tilt But where are you located __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

07-21-2005, 08:25 PM	#3
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,158	It has the short shaft, like a pu, but arms off a van. Is it a converted van? Where is the neutral switch located? __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

07-21-2005, 08:31 PM	#5
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,639	van tilts are shorter __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

07-21-2005, 08:35 PM	#7
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,639	I have seen van tilts in trucks and the main thing I have noticed is that the steering wheel is closer to the dash. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

07-21-2005, 08:29 PM	#4
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	I'm in Indiana, converted van ? I thought the van columns had the long steering shaft ? There is no place for a neutral switch. the levers where on the column when I got it.

07-21-2005, 08:34 PM	#6
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	van tilts are shorter ? so the steering shaft for the van is shorter then the truck ? I am so confused.

07-21-2005, 08:39 PM	#8
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	okay ... lets call it a van column.... cuz I really dont know.. mybe this was a bad idea I just thought someone could use the column.

07-21-2005, 08:41 PM	#9
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,639	may want to just give dimensions and let them decide what it is they want. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

07-21-2005, 08:55 PM	#10
greenhorn male Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area, Northern California Posts: 1,344	I put my truck and van tilts side by side and the housing dimensions are identical. The van steering shaft is longer and the neutral safety switch location is higher on the column. I used to have a van tilt with no neutral safety switch at all on the column. I think it was from a later van which may have had the neutral safety on the tranny. __________________ 03 Tahoe 72 GMC Super Custom 2500 Custom Camper, my reliable workhorse. Dual gauged tanks, dual battery trays. Last edited by greenhorn male; 07-21-2005 at 08:59 PM.

07-21-2005, 09:03 PM	#11
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	Good Idea ... Here ya go The end Shaft is 3/4" Splined and overall Length is 36 1/2" (tip to tip) Main Body Diameter is 2" The Upper Housing Diameter is 4"

07-21-2005, 09:05 PM	#12
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	so there should be a neutral safety switch on the column if its for a truck ?

07-21-2005, 09:58 PM	#13
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,858	How can you tell if the shift arm is off of a van? Rob __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

07-21-2005, 11:25 PM	#14
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	Van shift levers are shorter than truck shift levers. The shift lever looks like it is from a truck to me, but I agree that the turn signal & tilt levers are van, or are from a later model truck. All of the 67-72 truck turn signal & tilt levers that I have seen had the smaller, hard plastic ends, not rubber like those. I'm not sure about the neutral safety switch, but I know some vans did have the switch on the trans. It looks like a nice column either way, and once it's in, who's gonna know the difference? __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com Last edited by HuggerCST; 07-21-2005 at 11:28 PM.

07-22-2005, 05:33 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	I`ve used van tilts in trucks.Looks authentic.You just have to move the neutral safety switch to the truck position.Van tilts have a lower price range than truck columns. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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07-22-2005, 08:44 AM	#16
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	I think the column is for a Truck. I have done some looking on the net and it looks to be the real deal, I do agree that the turn and tilt lever are not correct. I do think the shift lever is correct.

07-22-2005, 10:24 AM	#17
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	I just bought a van tilt from supposedly a 76 van. It has the neutral safety switch. I was wondering though, why does the switch need to be moved? Won't it fit in the truck in the original position? Is it the wiring? HG __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

07-22-2005, 12:11 PM	#20
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	hers a tread on how to mod a van tilt http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=dremel+column

07-22-2005, 02:27 PM	#21
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Sorry about usurping this thread. I just did some measuring of my 76 van tilt and found the neural switch is 17" from the top of the column. So I measure down that far from my still installed 3 on the tree non tilt column and that puts it just below the brackets for the brake and clutch pedal, with room above it for the wiring. The original switch is nestled right next to the fire wall. I guess I don't see the point in moving the switch if it works where it is at. If I move it down 6" or so, that would put it down by the firewall, but I don't really see any advantage to this. If anyone has more info on this, I would sure love to hear it. BTW, another FAQ thread has more info than the one posted above. Try this: FAQ for installing van tilt HG __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

07-22-2005, 04:33 PM	#23
bagged91 Out draggin' Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pitman,NJ Posts: 1,574	Is the PRND21 indicator housing metal or plastic???? I had a mid 80's motorhome tilt that looked pretty close to a truck tilt but the shift lever at the bottom of the column was slightly different and the indicator housing was black plastic... Nice column ya got either way... Good Luck on the sale. L8R - Joe __________________ 91 GMC Xcab LB-Bags/bd/caddy clip SOLD 72 C10 Cheyenne Super LWB SOLD 92 GMC K1500 Burb 72 C10 Burb (ex. Cheesewagon)SOLD 72 C20 Burb parts truck 71 C10 Burb "project"

07-22-2005, 08:09 PM	#24
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	the indicator housing is metal. Thanks for all the input

07-23-2005, 09:56 AM	#25
my72k20 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	^ up up

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