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Porkchop · 07-27-2005, 03:56 PM

I just got a steering column that I ordered from a junkyard a few weeks ago. It's a three speed. The thing is that they removed the steering shaft that's attatched to the rag joint and the steering wheel and sent me the rest. This does me no good because it doesn't fix the problem I have with my old column. The problem with mine is with the pieces that are located on the shaft. It's obvious that they just removed the wheel and slid off the rest of the column while leaving the rag joint and shaft still attatched.

So, what is the definition of a steering column? I thought it included everything from the wheel to the rag joint (although I did tell them they could keep the wheel so I could save on shipping). I don't know if this is my fault or theirs.
thanks
brad

JimKshortstep4x4 · 07-27-2005, 08:48 PM

My definition would be for the column to have the shaft in it but not have the shaft extension attached.

Do you need the shaft or the shaft extension?

If you need a shaft, I have one that you can have if you are in the area, (Muskegon).

Jim

71swb4x4 · 07-27-2005, 08:51 PM

That doesn't sound like a column to me. I would expect the steering shaft. It's like purchasing an engine, with no crankshaft.

krue · 07-27-2005, 10:20 PM

The last column I bought at a jy didn't have the shaft.

**pjmoreland** · 07-28-2005, 08:51 PM

That's bogus in my opinion. The shaft should be included.

Longhorn Man · 07-28-2005, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

That doesn't sound like a column to me. I would expect the steering shaft. It's like purchasing an engine, with no crankshaft.

I agree with this one...like getting an engine with no crank shaft.
I'd call and raise hell, what did they charge you for this half a column?

Porkchop · 07-28-2005, 10:54 PM

Well, to be honest, the column is for my ford not my chevy- but thanks anyway for offering me the shaft Jim.

I paid $125 for it, but it needs to be cleaned up and painted. I emailed them today stating that I thought the shaft should be included, so I'll have to see what they say.
thanks for the responses

Longhorn Man · 07-28-2005, 10:57 PM

What year ford?
IMO, for 125 bucks...assuming it is a non tilt, that sucker should be pretty much perfect. AND COMPLETE. A non tilt column ain't worth much more than 50 bucks.
Onless you are dealing with a later column like locking with ignition switch and all that jazz.

junkyardjohn · 07-29-2005, 02:39 PM

THAT SHAFT IS CALLED THE SECTOR SHAFT, & NO IN 95% OF THE COLLUMNS I'VE BOUGHT (& i've bought several dozen) THE SECTOR SHAFT IS NOT INCLUDED, & THEY CHARGE EXTRA IF YOU WANT IT. IT'S KINDA LIKE BUYING A FENDER & CRYING CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TRIM.

JOHN

Porkchop · 07-29-2005, 05:14 PM

It's for a 69 f100 and has no tilt or switches. I am not sure what year column I got because there are a few differences near the base of the column. Either that or there are pieces missing. So even if I wanted to use my old shaft I couldn't.

John, are you talking about the shaft that is attatched to the steering wheel? It just seems to me that every time someone shows columns for sale or pictures of columns that they have purchased, they include the shaft.

I really don't think it's that absurd to expect that the shaft be included. I mean, what kind of market is there for columns without the shaft? Especially in certain cases where people are swapping to a tilt (you can't use a non tilt shaft). I can't think of a situation involving this type of basic no frills steering column where anyone would need to buy the column minus the shaft; what else is there to break other than the shaft or the pieces that relate the shaft to the rest of the column?
thanks for the responses

junkyardjohn · 07-29-2005, 08:43 PM

The Sector Shafts Are The Same For Tilt & Non Tilt Alike. All The Ones Are The Same From 69 To 72 (67 & 68 Had One Piece Shafts I Believe) So Most People Don't Need Em. They Are Around $18 At Most Of The Yards Around Here. John

Longhorn Man · 07-29-2005, 11:13 PM

John, are you thinking about the same shaft as he is? He is talking about the one the steering wheel bolts to....not the same in tilt and non tilt...becouse you can't tilt a solid bar.

07-27-2005, 03:56 PM	#1
Porkchop Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dowagiac, MI US Posts: 579	steering column I just got a steering column that I ordered from a junkyard a few weeks ago. It's a three speed. The thing is that they removed the steering shaft that's attatched to the rag joint and the steering wheel and sent me the rest. This does me no good because it doesn't fix the problem I have with my old column. The problem with mine is with the pieces that are located on the shaft. It's obvious that they just removed the wheel and slid off the rest of the column while leaving the rag joint and shaft still attatched. So, what is the definition of a steering column? I thought it included everything from the wheel to the rag joint (although I did tell them they could keep the wheel so I could save on shipping). I don't know if this is my fault or theirs. thanks brad

07-27-2005, 08:51 PM	#3
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	That doesn't sound like a column to me. I would expect the steering shaft. It's like purchasing an engine, with no crankshaft. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

07-27-2005, 10:20 PM	#4
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	The last column I bought at a jy didn't have the shaft. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

07-29-2005, 02:39 PM	#9
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	THAT SHAFT IS CALLED THE SECTOR SHAFT, & NO IN 95% OF THE COLLUMNS I'VE BOUGHT (& i've bought several dozen) THE SECTOR SHAFT IS NOT INCLUDED, & THEY CHARGE EXTRA IF YOU WANT IT. IT'S KINDA LIKE BUYING A FENDER & CRYING CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TRIM. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

07-29-2005, 08:43 PM	#11
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	The Sector Shafts Are The Same For Tilt & Non Tilt Alike. All The Ones Are The Same From 69 To 72 (67 & 68 Had One Piece Shafts I Believe) So Most People Don't Need Em. They Are Around $18 At Most Of The Yards Around Here. John __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

07-27-2005, 08:48 PM	#2
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	My definition would be for the column to have the shaft in it but not have the shaft extension attached. Do you need the shaft or the shaft extension? If you need a shaft, I have one that you can have if you are in the area, (Muskegon). Jim

07-28-2005, 08:51 PM	#5
pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 5,786	That's bogus in my opinion. The shaft should be included.

07-28-2005, 10:54 PM	#7
Porkchop Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dowagiac, MI US Posts: 579	Well, to be honest, the column is for my ford not my chevy- but thanks anyway for offering me the shaft Jim. I paid $125 for it, but it needs to be cleaned up and painted. I emailed them today stating that I thought the shaft should be included, so I'll have to see what they say. thanks for the responses

07-28-2005, 10:57 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	What year ford? IMO, for 125 bucks...assuming it is a non tilt, that sucker should be pretty much perfect. AND COMPLETE. A non tilt column ain't worth much more than 50 bucks. Onless you are dealing with a later column like locking with ignition switch and all that jazz.

07-29-2005, 05:14 PM	#10
Porkchop Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dowagiac, MI US Posts: 579	It's for a 69 f100 and has no tilt or switches. I am not sure what year column I got because there are a few differences near the base of the column. Either that or there are pieces missing. So even if I wanted to use my old shaft I couldn't. John, are you talking about the shaft that is attatched to the steering wheel? It just seems to me that every time someone shows columns for sale or pictures of columns that they have purchased, they include the shaft. I really don't think it's that absurd to expect that the shaft be included. I mean, what kind of market is there for columns without the shaft? Especially in certain cases where people are swapping to a tilt (you can't use a non tilt shaft). I can't think of a situation involving this type of basic no frills steering column where anyone would need to buy the column minus the shaft; what else is there to break other than the shaft or the pieces that relate the shaft to the rest of the column? thanks for the responses

07-29-2005, 11:13 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	John, are you thinking about the same shaft as he is? He is talking about the one the steering wheel bolts to....not the same in tilt and non tilt...becouse you can't tilt a solid bar.



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