The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-12-2006, 03:08 PM   #1
nu arty boy
Registered User
 
nu arty boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 17
Largest tire without a lift?

I have a set of BFG AT sitting in my garage that used to be on my Wrangler. However the Chevy has the standard 30" tire and the ones I want to put on are almost a 32". How big of a tire can I have before it starts to rub?
__________________
1986 C-10 w/ 305 automatic

nu arty boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 03:27 PM   #2
C-10volvo
Registered User
 
C-10volvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon
Posts: 1,028
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

if it is a 4wd, you may be able to get away with 32's. however i have seen some mixed results. my friends stock hight blazer has 33's with no rubbing while some other trucks rub wuth 32's. it really depends on how saggy your springs are
__________________
Ken Morgan
For fun: 1964 Volvo 122
For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10
For everything else: 1997 BMW M3
C-10volvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 04:34 PM   #3
Jim85IROC
Registered User
 
Jim85IROC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Readsboro, VT
Posts: 502
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I don't know about 32s, but on my 1 ton, 33s rubbed BADLY until I put my lift in. Here's a pic of my truck before the lift kit to give you an indication:


I could only turn the wheel about 1/2 way to full lock before the tires rubbed on flat pavement. Any kind of bump or tilt in the road where I was turning (like into a driveway) made it even worse. Because of this, I doubt 32s would fit, especially on a 1/2 ton which is quite a bit lower than my 1 ton was, especially if your springs are a few years old.
__________________
1987 GMC Sierra Classic 3500
454
TH400
My Sounddomain Page
Jim85IROC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 05:04 PM   #4
Destructo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lewisville, NC
Posts: 1,836
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I had one ton springs from a military CUCV truck in my K10 and stock 1/2 tons in the rear and ran 33x12.5" tires on 15x8" wheels with 3.75" of BSing, no rubbing at all with no sway bar.

The wheels make a big difference also, if you run 10" wide wheels your probably not gonna clear for sure, 15x8s you could probably do it. And it just depends, I probably couldn't of cleared my 33x12.5's with 1/2 ton springs in mine.
__________________
1985 Scottsdale Shortbed 4x4
Stout 350 with some "upgrades"-700r4-33x12.5" Mud Tires, Warn 8274-50 winch.

2005 Chevrolet Colorado Regular Cab 2wd 4-banger, 5 speed, Street Pack with 3.73 axle.
Destructo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #5
Prerunner1982
Registered User
 
Prerunner1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 5,904
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

1/2ton 2WD runs 32x11.50s with no rub unless i hit a bump and then it hits the top outter edge just barely and that is now fixed with rolling the fender.. but i agree it depends on how saggy your springs are.
__________________
Jon
1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED
1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231
....
Oklahoma Roll Call
Prerunner1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 08:49 PM   #6
magnethead
7000 #'s of american IRON
 
magnethead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: north tx
Posts: 883
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

on my truck (keep in mind 1 ton), i know height wise a 33" could fit easily, but it hhas 6.5" wide tires right now, so i don't know that you can go much more than maybe 33 x 7.5 without problems at full lock..haven't really looked though.. it has 235/85-16's on it right now.
magnethead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2006, 11:14 PM   #7
hotrodhomi
Registered User
 
hotrodhomi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 3,737
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I have seen 40" on a truck with out a lift. all it take is a little cutting.
__________________
'72 2wd blazer, bagged w/ watts link & EDC
'72 C10 "Lowered Farm Truck" STOLEN 5-18-11
'66 impala ht
hotrodhomi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 12:42 AM   #8
C-10volvo
Registered User
 
C-10volvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon
Posts: 1,028
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrodhomi
I have seen 40" on a truck with out a lift. all it take is a little cutting.
nothing looks cooler than a truck tucking 40'' haha
__________________
Ken Morgan
For fun: 1964 Volvo 122
For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10
For everything else: 1997 BMW M3
C-10volvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 01:39 AM   #9
Destructo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lewisville, NC
Posts: 1,836
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by C-10volvo
nothing looks cooler than a truck tucking 40'' haha
I agree, but you won't catch me hacking my nice straight sheetmetal up on my shortbed to fit bigger tires

I'll leave that for the rusted out truck to do.
__________________
1985 Scottsdale Shortbed 4x4
Stout 350 with some "upgrades"-700r4-33x12.5" Mud Tires, Warn 8274-50 winch.

2005 Chevrolet Colorado Regular Cab 2wd 4-banger, 5 speed, Street Pack with 3.73 axle.
Destructo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 03:20 PM   #10
nu arty boy
Registered User
 
nu arty boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 17
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I guess my question is can I run a 285/75/16 tire on a 2WD 1/2 ton? (no lift)
__________________
1986 C-10 w/ 305 automatic

nu arty boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 03:49 PM   #11
ElGracho
Gentleman Jim Driver
 
ElGracho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Poulsbo, WA
Posts: 1,553
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destructo
I had one ton springs from a military CUCV truck in my K10 and stock 1/2 tons in the rear...
A CUCV is not a 1 ton. It's a 1/2 ton.

I have had 2 sets of 32" BFG ATs on my 84 K10. They rub while backing and turning for about 10k miles especially when turning to the right. They rub on the back side of the inner fender. 32's will probably fit but variations in each individual body will make all the difference. I wouldn't even try 33s.
__________________
Joe
'75 GMC Gentleman Jim
'84 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super duper plain (manual steering, manual brakes, no dome light, no cig lighter)
'85 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super plain Vortec 4.8 4L60E trans
also: '81 K30, '83 C30 Crew Dually, '84 M1028 CUCV, '85 M1009 CUCV, another '85 C10 SWB, '89 R3500 Flatbed

Last edited by ElGracho; 01-13-2006 at 03:49 PM.
ElGracho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 04:12 PM   #12
ben@speedbarn
Done yet?
 
ben@speedbarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 118
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Yeah I think that the rim makes the biggest difference. I had 33x12.50s with no rubbing on my 76 3/4 and my roomate had the same tires on his saggy 82 f250 with no problem. I will see soon if I can get 36x12.50s with 4" lift and no cutting.
__________________
'76 k2500 -- almost done...
ben@speedbarn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 04:24 PM   #13
Prerunner1982
Registered User
 
Prerunner1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 5,904
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElGracho
A CUCV is not a 1 ton. It's a 1/2 ton.
actually a CUCV truck version is 1 1/4 ton, with dana 60 and 14bolt and 4.56 gears. the CUCV m1009 blazer was 1/2ton.. with 10bolts and 3.08s.
Prerunner1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 07:33 PM   #14
TC70C10
Registered User
 
TC70C10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Harvest, AL 35749
Posts: 337
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

33's rubbed on my 81 K5. Put on a 4" rough country lift (very reasonable) on last year. Very satisified. They recommended 6" for 35's but it looks like I have room for bigger tires with the 4". Currently looking for another set of stock rims to setup with the mudders.

Check out rough country when you look at installing your lift. Great support.
__________________
1981 K5 Blazer 305, 4spd, 4x4, 4" Lift, custom bumpers, Warn 9.5 Ti Winch
1995 T10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4 (Son's)
2004 GMC Envoy 4.2L 2WD
2005 GMC Sierra Crew Cab Z71 4x4 5.3L
240 Fun Finder Travel Trailer

Harvest, AL 35749
TC70C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 08:03 PM   #15
ElGracho
Gentleman Jim Driver
 
ElGracho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Poulsbo, WA
Posts: 1,553
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prerunner1982
actually a CUCV truck version is 1 1/4 ton, with dana 60 and 14bolt and 4.56 gears. the CUCV m1009 blazer was 1/2ton.. with 10bolts and 3.08s.
Ok, brain fart there. Most of the CUCV trucks were 1 tons by normal GM designation. The military did designate all but the M1009 as 1 1/4 ton trucks.

Here are some more designators:

M1008: Tactical Cargo, 1 ton
M1008A1: Tactical Cargo, 1 ton
M1009: Tactical Utility, 1/2 ton
M1010: Tactical Ambulance, 1 ton
M1028: Tactical Shelter Carrier, 1 ton
M1028A1: Tactical Shelter Carrier w/ PTO, 1 ton
M1031: Tactical Chassis, 1 ton
__________________
Joe
'75 GMC Gentleman Jim
'84 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super duper plain (manual steering, manual brakes, no dome light, no cig lighter)
'85 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super plain Vortec 4.8 4L60E trans
also: '81 K30, '83 C30 Crew Dually, '84 M1028 CUCV, '85 M1009 CUCV, another '85 C10 SWB, '89 R3500 Flatbed
ElGracho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 08:19 PM   #16
Zoomad75
K5Camper
 
Zoomad75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pueblo, CO
Posts: 1,513
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I ran my K5 with 33x12.50s and no lift without any rubbing. Heres a shot:



32's should clear without any issue, but as people have said it will depend on the amount of spring sag.

I've heard of some that got away with 35's on no lift with minor trimmage to the front and back corners. Here's the big legal disclaimer:

TRUCKS MAY DIFFER, INDIVIDUAL RESULTS MAY VARY.
__________________
Rob Z.
1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP
1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper
Zoomad75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 09:18 PM   #17
Russell
Professional Grade
 
Russell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta
Posts: 7,915
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

I've got 31s on my K25, and they are too small for the truck. Wanna go with 33s when all is said and done
__________________
1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)
Russell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 10:48 PM   #18
MylilBowTie
Right turn Clyde
 
MylilBowTie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 2,911
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

One thing you also have to do is measure the actual tire size. There is a lot of variances in different tire manufactures. My 31x10.50 (15x8 rims) tires are only 29.5 inches tall and that was when they were brand new installed. Rim width will also effect overall tire height along with how the tires wear on them.
__________________
1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73
1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI
MylilBowTie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2006, 10:51 PM   #19
Destructo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lewisville, NC
Posts: 1,836
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElGracho
A CUCV is not a 1 ton. It's a 1/2 ton.

I have had 2 sets of 32" BFG ATs on my 84 K10. They rub while backing and turning for about 10k miles especially when turning to the right. They rub on the back side of the inner fender. 32's will probably fit but variations in each individual body will make all the difference. I wouldn't even try 33s.
It was a M1008 CUCV Military truck, has a D60 in the front, 14 bolt in back and a 6.2L Diesel motor. Technically the M1008 CUCV trucks are 1 1/4ton rated trucks.

Edit: I see the correction has already been made.... whoops.
__________________
1985 Scottsdale Shortbed 4x4
Stout 350 with some "upgrades"-700r4-33x12.5" Mud Tires, Warn 8274-50 winch.

2005 Chevrolet Colorado Regular Cab 2wd 4-banger, 5 speed, Street Pack with 3.73 axle.

Last edited by Destructo; 01-13-2006 at 10:52 PM.
Destructo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 05:39 AM   #20
DroppedZ84
Account Suspended
 
DroppedZ84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Nor*Cal
Posts: 186
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

A sorta cheap way to get a little more "lift" would be to replace all the cab/body mounts with Polyurethane/Polygraphite.
32x11½" 15's on a 15x8 with 4" BS should work on a ½ton 2wd..
DroppedZ84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 03:12 PM   #21
nu arty boy
Registered User
 
nu arty boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 17
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Now my only question is where can I get a set of 16" rims with the same bolt pattern. I hear that the WJ Grand Cherokee (1999-2004) have the same 5x5" pattern - is this true or not? Did GM ever make a 5 bolt 16" rim? I know that they have 6 bolt 16" wheels for the 4WD Suburbans and Tahoes. Are there adaptors available?
__________________
1986 C-10 w/ 305 automatic

nu arty boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 05:35 PM   #22
see ten
WTB this ad
 
see ten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lafayette Georgia
Posts: 5,074
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

My old 84 Camorado with 33x12.50 on a 15x8 rally. I slightly rubbed on the tie rod on the driver side. Oh by the way there is no lift on it.

see ten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 02:22 PM   #23
Prerunner1982
Registered User
 
Prerunner1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 5,904
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

here are pics of mine with 32"s... most of youll have seen em already...
Attached Images
  
Prerunner1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 02:00 AM   #24
Walts_restoration
Real Projects never die
 
Walts_restoration's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lawrence, kansas
Posts: 1,508
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nu arty boy View Post
Now my only question is where can I get a set of 16" rims with the same bolt pattern. I hear that the WJ Grand Cherokee (1999-2004) have the same 5x5" pattern - is this true or not? Did GM ever make a 5 bolt 16" rim? I know that they have 6 bolt 16" wheels for the 4WD Suburbans and Tahoes. Are there adaptors available?


Yes, they did make a 16x5.5 rim for a 5x5 bolt pattern, ive only got five, and the four best are on my 1977 Heavy half, making its stance like a 3/4 ton (tough looking now) and its got 31s. I did this because my speedo was off by ten, and now its about 4 slow because of my 3.42 rear. If you want, i can get some pics for ya. ive been looking for about 6 months, and my dad has been looking for about 10 years for another set of them. If you happen to find a set, gimme a call. A buddy of ours picked them up at a farm sale.
__________________
Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments

My name tag says Ryan

KansasTwister On other forums
Walts_restoration is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 06:09 AM   #25
Shamil
Registered User
 
Shamil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Amman, Jordan
Posts: 121
Re: Largest tire without a lift?

i run a 36"/12.5"/16.5", i think i'm going for something smaller like 32”/10.5/16.5

what do you think guys...
Attached Images
 
Shamil is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com