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shelby987 · 02-15-2006, 02:02 PM

came across a project vehicle with a toro flow v6 diesel in it......I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this thing is worth? I figured it was probably like the GMC v6's where there is a market for them, but their value seems to be relatively low.
Thanks

JAKES 68GMC · 02-15-2006, 06:52 PM

From what I know, the Toro-Flow was a converted over gas V6, and did NOT have a good reputation for running good. I think they made them in 478's only. If probably wouldn't attempt to fix the vehicle up, unless your planning to swith the engine. Toroflow diesel parts would be like finding a strand of hay in a needle stack: Damned hard to do!

**special-K** · 02-15-2006, 08:56 PM

Could you get a picture?What vehicle is it in?

Rod · 02-15-2006, 09:03 PM

I haven't come across one either..more info and pics would be interesting.

JAKES 68GMC · 02-15-2006, 09:36 PM

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/Diesel.htm

There ya go.

**Bob B.** · 02-16-2006, 12:18 AM

There was 3 of them, a 351, a 478, and a 637 V-8. The problem with them was that they really didn't like to rev., and it was pretty easy to blow the bottom end. They did O.K. in medium duty trucks and school buses, particularly if they were bolted to an Allison. Strange diesel, like the V-6 gas engines they had a short stroke and a big bore. I know someone with a running 478 Toroflow in a bus. I have driven it, and the thing actually makes decent power, though it isn't turbocharged. The biggest problem with them now, if you can find a running one, is that there are NO parts available anymore.

shelby987 · 02-16-2006, 09:00 AM

I found it in a local auto rag, i wasn't really sure where to post the question...its in a 77? pickup....but its a 66 toro flow.......I will try to dig up the pic. in the paper if I can, along with any information if anyone wants to pursue it.....if its close to me, I can stop off and snap some pics for anyone.

BobS · 02-16-2006, 10:01 AM

Wasn't that one on EBay about a year ago? I seem to remember something about a later truck with a Toro-Flow. I think it would be fun to try in a light truck but, like Bob B. said, parts would be an issue. I wonder what kind of mileage they'd get?

Bob

shelby987 · 02-16-2006, 11:14 AM

personally, I like the rare and unique, but I have had my fair share of vehicles that parts do not exist for anymore, and I am in a place where I would rather pass and put my time into my already neglected projects in hopes of someone here possibly wanting to keep this engine alive.

BobS · 02-16-2006, 12:34 PM

What's the asking price? Anyone heading west on 94 from Michigan?!!

Bob

shelby987 · 02-17-2006, 09:28 AM

Bobs I was looking through the paper yesterday, the truck is in WI.....although I forgot to bring the clipping in with me today..... I will try to past as soon as possible, or I can PM anyone that expresses interest.....as I am not sure where I would post it???

**Bob B.** · 02-17-2006, 05:05 PM

One other ominous thing about Toroflows: I have a bunch of late-60's GMC service bullitens, and you can't believe many were issued on those things!

shelby987 · 02-17-2006, 05:37 PM

sorry, the paper said asking price is $3,000....but i think its been posted for quite some time now.....

BobS · 02-28-2006, 07:40 PM

Shelby087,

Can you PM me the phone number on the ad if you still have it? Curiousity is getting the best of me............

Bob

shelby987 · 03-01-2006, 08:42 AM

I will scavange around and see if I have an old autotrader sitting around.....unfortunately I just performed my 6 month cleaning on my house (gotta return the bottles before they over-run the house), but I will see what I can dig up!

02-15-2006, 02:02 PM	#1
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	toro flow diesel?? came across a project vehicle with a toro flow v6 diesel in it......I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this thing is worth? I figured it was probably like the GMC v6's where there is a market for them, but their value seems to be relatively low. Thanks __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!

02-15-2006, 06:52 PM	#2
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: toro flow diesel?? From what I know, the Toro-Flow was a converted over gas V6, and did NOT have a good reputation for running good. I think they made them in 478's only. If probably wouldn't attempt to fix the vehicle up, unless your planning to swith the engine. Toroflow diesel parts would be like finding a strand of hay in a needle stack: Damned hard to do!

02-15-2006, 08:56 PM	#3
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02-15-2006, 09:03 PM	#4
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02-15-2006, 09:36 PM	#5
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: toro flow diesel?? http://www.6066gmcguy.org/Diesel.htm There ya go.

02-16-2006, 12:18 AM	#6
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,349	Re: toro flow diesel?? There was 3 of them, a 351, a 478, and a 637 V-8. The problem with them was that they really didn't like to rev., and it was pretty easy to blow the bottom end. They did O.K. in medium duty trucks and school buses, particularly if they were bolted to an Allison. Strange diesel, like the V-6 gas engines they had a short stroke and a big bore. I know someone with a running 478 Toroflow in a bus. I have driven it, and the thing actually makes decent power, though it isn't turbocharged. The biggest problem with them now, if you can find a running one, is that there are NO parts available anymore. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

02-16-2006, 09:00 AM	#7
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: toro flow diesel?? I found it in a local auto rag, i wasn't really sure where to post the question...its in a 77? pickup....but its a 66 toro flow.......I will try to dig up the pic. in the paper if I can, along with any information if anyone wants to pursue it.....if its close to me, I can stop off and snap some pics for anyone. __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!

02-16-2006, 10:01 AM	#8
BobS Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Central Minnesota Posts: 568	Re: toro flow diesel?? Wasn't that one on EBay about a year ago? I seem to remember something about a later truck with a Toro-Flow. I think it would be fun to try in a light truck but, like Bob B. said, parts would be an issue. I wonder what kind of mileage they'd get? Bob __________________ V-6....only GMC Trucks have it! 62 GMC W5000 NAPCO-V6 65 GMC 2500 NAPCO Panel-V6 66 GMC 1000-V6 66 GMC 1500-V6 67 GMC K1500-SBC (originally a KM-V6) 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC Suburban C2500 70 Chevy K20-SBC 71 Chevy C30 Longhorn-SBC 72 GMC Suburban C1500-BBC 72 Chevy C10-SBC 72 GMC C5500-ToroFlow Diesel

02-16-2006, 11:14 AM	#9
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: toro flow diesel?? personally, I like the rare and unique, but I have had my fair share of vehicles that parts do not exist for anymore, and I am in a place where I would rather pass and put my time into my already neglected projects in hopes of someone here possibly wanting to keep this engine alive. __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!

02-16-2006, 12:34 PM	#10
BobS Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Central Minnesota Posts: 568	Re: toro flow diesel?? What's the asking price? Anyone heading west on 94 from Michigan?!! Bob __________________ V-6....only GMC Trucks have it! 62 GMC W5000 NAPCO-V6 65 GMC 2500 NAPCO Panel-V6 66 GMC 1000-V6 66 GMC 1500-V6 67 GMC K1500-SBC (originally a KM-V6) 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC Suburban C2500 70 Chevy K20-SBC 71 Chevy C30 Longhorn-SBC 72 GMC Suburban C1500-BBC 72 Chevy C10-SBC 72 GMC C5500-ToroFlow Diesel

02-17-2006, 09:28 AM	#11
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: toro flow diesel?? Bobs I was looking through the paper yesterday, the truck is in WI.....although I forgot to bring the clipping in with me today..... I will try to past as soon as possible, or I can PM anyone that expresses interest.....as I am not sure where I would post it??? __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!

02-17-2006, 05:05 PM	#12
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,349	Re: toro flow diesel?? One other ominous thing about Toroflows: I have a bunch of late-60's GMC service bullitens, and you can't believe many were issued on those things! __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

02-17-2006, 05:37 PM	#13
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: toro flow diesel?? sorry, the paper said asking price is $3,000....but i think its been posted for quite some time now..... __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!

02-28-2006, 07:40 PM	#14
BobS Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Central Minnesota Posts: 568	Re: toro flow diesel?? Shelby087, Can you PM me the phone number on the ad if you still have it? Curiousity is getting the best of me............ Bob __________________ V-6....only GMC Trucks have it! 62 GMC W5000 NAPCO-V6 65 GMC 2500 NAPCO Panel-V6 66 GMC 1000-V6 66 GMC 1500-V6 67 GMC K1500-SBC (originally a KM-V6) 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC Suburban C2500 70 Chevy K20-SBC 71 Chevy C30 Longhorn-SBC 72 GMC Suburban C1500-BBC 72 Chevy C10-SBC 72 GMC C5500-ToroFlow Diesel

03-01-2006, 08:42 AM	#15
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: toro flow diesel?? I will scavange around and see if I have an old autotrader sitting around.....unfortunately I just performed my 6 month cleaning on my house (gotta return the bottles before they over-run the house), but I will see what I can dig up! __________________ 1969 SS 350 Camaro Sold 2008 1970 3/4T K20, stock height with 33's, 250 I6, 3 on the tree, and locked front and rear 4.10's 1980 Chevy Malibu 2 dr Sold 2007 1993 Olds. Cutlass Ciera Wagon Traded 2006 2003 Saturn L200 w/5pd. D/D My list spans 5 decades with One common thread.....GM!



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