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smiley68 · 03-16-2006, 03:31 AM

Hello,
I am new to the rebuilding stuff and relatively new to the truck scene. I have a different cab for my 68 chevy and I'm wondering what the legality issues are to putting the replacement cab on my existing truck. Will I have to have a new title made with seperate numbers? (Vin # and Frame #)
The reason I'm asking is I have seen sever cabs for sale that state clear title or salvage title or vehicles for sale that say the #'s match. I'm kind of lost on the matter.

Thanks,
Smiley

davidh · 03-16-2006, 03:37 AM

Depends on the state. Some say the title is what the cab is, other what the frame is. If it were I think I'd cross vin tags with the new cab as long as you know the previous truck isn't stolen. There's been many a discussion on this. Call your tag agency. Here in OK on older vehicles they just check the cab vin. #'s match usually refers to the engine/transmission

smiley68 · 03-16-2006, 03:51 AM

That won't work either. I have changed the engine and tranny. This project gets harder by the day. Oh well if it were easy we wouldn't have to worry about rebuilds, right. LOL

Thanks,
Smiley

**special-K** · 03-16-2006, 07:31 AM

The numbers match thing,motor/trans etc,is a collectors authenticity varification on whether a vehicle is still "as-built".This generally only applies to vehicles with rare options or is a rare configuration.The model # tells if it was Stepside/Fleetside.All factory options are listed on the VIN-spec sheet.
The serial # is all that matters where you are concerned.The laws vary from state to state,but basically you want the #-plate on the cab to be the same on the title because that`s where they`ll look.Some people are concerned that the rivets we use are not the star rivets as used at the factory.That`s why some cabs are sold with title when the rest is scrapped.Every now and then these rivets turn up for sale(rosebud rivets).I,personally,don`t worry.It`s an old vehicle and I removed the plate to protect it during the process of restoration to protect it from damage

.If anyone was to get called out on this swapping at any point,they would just have to go through the reconstructed title process.

Longhorn Man · 03-16-2006, 10:19 AM

call your DMV or who ever, and ask about the legality.
With that being said, I'd just clopse the door of the garage, and swap the plate out and just not tell anyone important.

67ChevyRedneck · 03-16-2006, 10:26 AM

As far as I know, they only ID on these cabs is the glovebox door and vin tag.... So what's the big deal if you wanted to remove your tag to paint behind it and put it back on

Blue85 · 03-16-2006, 11:11 AM

What about in this situation? Can you tell if its an original shortbox by checking vin #'s? I have a 72 chevy cab(off a LWB truck) on my 72 GMC SWB frame, i was gonna use the chev numbers because i am using a chev front clip instead of the GMC. The question is will the truck be registered as a lwb instead of a short?

Longhorn Man · 03-16-2006, 05:14 PM

on a chevy VIN, you can not tell the wheel base nor bed type from the VIN.

smiley68 · 03-16-2006, 09:27 PM

Thanks for all the information. I think I'll use your advise Longhorn Man.
Thanks again. One less worry.

smiley

kingsolver72 · 03-16-2006, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

As far as I know, they only ID on these cabs is the glovebox door and vin tag.... So what's the big deal if you wanted to remove your tag to paint behind it and put it back on

The vin# is on the driver side frame,in two spots.One is on top of the rail under the cab and the other is on top of the rail,just in front of the cross member,in the engine compartment.

RicksTrucks · 03-17-2006, 01:12 AM

Every time I have taken each of my trucks in for registration, they have just come out and compared the title to the vin plate.

kingsolver72 · 03-17-2006, 01:57 AM

I was not saying that your frame will be inspected..just relaying the fact that the vin # is stamped on the frame.It might very well be useless information?

03-16-2006, 03:31 AM	#1
smiley68 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 32	a different cab? Hello, I am new to the rebuilding stuff and relatively new to the truck scene. I have a different cab for my 68 chevy and I'm wondering what the legality issues are to putting the replacement cab on my existing truck. Will I have to have a new title made with seperate numbers? (Vin # and Frame #) The reason I'm asking is I have seen sever cabs for sale that state clear title or salvage title or vehicles for sale that say the #'s match. I'm kind of lost on the matter. Thanks, Smiley

03-16-2006, 03:37 AM	#2
davidh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ponca city now kingfisher Oklahoma Posts: 1,221	Re: a different cab? Depends on the state. Some say the title is what the cab is, other what the frame is. If it were I think I'd cross vin tags with the new cab as long as you know the previous truck isn't stolen. There's been many a discussion on this. Call your tag agency. Here in OK on older vehicles they just check the cab vin. #'s match usually refers to the engine/transmission

03-16-2006, 03:51 AM	#3
smiley68 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 32	Re: a different cab? That won't work either. I have changed the engine and tranny. This project gets harder by the day. Oh well if it were easy we wouldn't have to worry about rebuilds, right. LOL Thanks, Smiley

03-16-2006, 07:31 AM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: a different cab? The numbers match thing,motor/trans etc,is a collectors authenticity varification on whether a vehicle is still "as-built".This generally only applies to vehicles with rare options or is a rare configuration.The model # tells if it was Stepside/Fleetside.All factory options are listed on the VIN-spec sheet. The serial # is all that matters where you are concerned.The laws vary from state to state,but basically you want the #-plate on the cab to be the same on the title because that`s where they`ll look.Some people are concerned that the rivets we use are not the star rivets as used at the factory.That`s why some cabs are sold with title when the rest is scrapped.Every now and then these rivets turn up for sale(rosebud rivets).I,personally,don`t worry.It`s an old vehicle and I removed the plate to protect it during the process of restoration to protect it from damage.If anyone was to get called out on this swapping at any point,they would just have to go through the reconstructed title process. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-16-2006, 10:19 AM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: a different cab? call your DMV or who ever, and ask about the legality. With that being said, I'd just clopse the door of the garage, and swap the plate out and just not tell anyone important.

03-16-2006, 10:26 AM	#6
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: a different cab? As far as I know, they only ID on these cabs is the glovebox door and vin tag.... So what's the big deal if you wanted to remove your tag to paint behind it and put it back on __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

03-16-2006, 11:11 AM	#7
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: a different cab? What about in this situation? Can you tell if its an original shortbox by checking vin #'s? I have a 72 chevy cab(off a LWB truck) on my 72 GMC SWB frame, i was gonna use the chev numbers because i am using a chev front clip instead of the GMC. The question is will the truck be registered as a lwb instead of a short? __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.

03-16-2006, 05:14 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: a different cab? on a chevy VIN, you can not tell the wheel base nor bed type from the VIN.

03-16-2006, 09:27 PM	#9
smiley68 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 32	Re: a different cab? Thanks for all the information. I think I'll use your advise Longhorn Man. Thanks again. One less worry. smiley __________________ Does anyone know your here! GOOD!

03-17-2006, 01:12 AM	#11
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,640	Re: a different cab? Every time I have taken each of my trucks in for registration, they have just come out and compared the title to the vin plate. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

03-17-2006, 01:57 AM	#12
kingsolver72 10/30/19 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ottawa kansas Posts: 5,244	Re: a different cab? I was not saying that your frame will be inspected..just relaying the fact that the vin # is stamped on the frame.It might very well be useless information? __________________ Fight the good fight, finish the race, keep the faith



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