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**PICKMUP** · 08-23-2006, 11:33 PM

Not sure this goes here or Review section, but it is a new problem from our friends (?) overseas. When every other industry is trying to make product improvements---these things show up in a big shipment. We are going backwards.
Rear wheel tubs: look at the severe wrinkling in the corners. We had some problems in the past, but NEVER this bad.
I thought you should be warned, before buying this part...ask about bad stampings before you order/buy. I am probably stuck with a bunch of them, because it costs too much to return...if they would even take them back.

*bskylerj* · 08-23-2006, 11:55 PM

That sucks for you to have to eat those Frank. You would think they could work with you if you sent photos instead of shipping returning them.

*trkklr77* · 08-24-2006, 12:20 AM

are those stock sizes or extra deep oe style??? im not picky and will need bigger than stock.

**special-K** · 08-24-2006, 06:31 AM

I like replacement parts that need less work than the piece I`m replacing.That is just sub-standard for anywhere in the world.My cheapo BBQ is made better than that!

ronh72c10 · 08-24-2006, 08:12 AM

There's always people who need them for daily drivers, offer them to people for a deal and think you'll have no problem getting rid of them.

Ron

Orange · 08-24-2006, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronh72c10

There's always people who need them for daily drivers, offer them to people for a deal and think you'll have no problem getting rid of them.

Ron

I agree.
In response to the original question of the post title, "Would you buy one of these?":
Not for my finished truck that is a "show/driver".
But like Ron said, if I had a worker/driver that needed them, and you offered them at near your cost, just a little over, sure, I'd pick a set up. Sometimes cheap will work - and if they are gonna get beat up anyhow, why not.

67ChevyRedneck · 08-24-2006, 09:08 AM

Maybe it's one that's been returned by 10 different people or has been sitting in a warehouse for 10 years... at least I hope... I sure don't want quality going backwards!!!

**special-K** · 08-24-2006, 10:45 AM

Something like that should not pass any quality control.Evidently,quality control doesn`t exist at that company.I wouldn`t want my name on a product like that.They should take it back,n/c,and apologize for jambing you up.This is busuness to business.That would be the last business I`d do with them,if they don`t get straight with you on it.
I`ve never seen one that needed replaced except to restore a bed to pretty.I wouldn`t go through the effort of changing one on a driver to end up with that.Bondo won`t hold up with real truck use.In a work truck,why replace them just to beat them up again,which will be easier with repro stampings.It`s just worthless sheetmetal,I`d be pizzed.

**PICKMUP** · 08-24-2006, 02:48 PM

These are fresh new housings, not old or returned. This is the first time they have come individually boxed, rather than in bulk quantities. Nice boxes-bad parts. I opened the first two for display and then just quit and put them all out in storage. We can't sell crap like this!
I do not know how we are ever going to get these overseas parts cleaned up. Some of the same problems & complaints have been going on for years!

**Yukon Jack** · 08-24-2006, 03:04 PM

That's unbelieveable - took me a minute to even see that they were actually even tubs. It's sad you have to eat an order like that!

BarryB · 08-24-2006, 03:37 PM

So sad, but i agree with a couple of the others on here. Maybe you can regain some of your money by selling to people for their work trucks.

Orange · 08-24-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Something like that should not pass any quality control.Evidently,quality control doesn`t exist at that company.I wouldn`t want my name on a product like that.They should take it back,n/c,and apologize for jambing you up.This is busuness to business.That would be the last business I`d do with them,if they don`t get straight with you on it.
I`ve never seen one that needed replaced except to restore a bed to pretty.I wouldn`t go through the effort of changing one on a driver to end up with that.Bondo won`t hold up with real truck use.In a work truck,why replace them just to beat them up again,which will be easier with repro stampings.It`s just worthless sheetmetal,I`d be pizzed.

My angle was if the current ones weren't rusted out or something perhaps...

LUV2XCLR8 · 08-24-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronh72c10

There's always people who need them for daily drivers, offer them to
people for a deal and think you'll have no problem getting rid of them.

Ron

x2 They look alot better than the ones in my 2wd

*Pic is before I cleaned all the crap out of it when I got it.

roj2323 · 08-24-2006, 07:54 PM

in a word "no"
i wouldn't buy them. obviously there is a serious problem with they're stamping machine or stamps, i would call and screem and yell untill something happens. there is really no excuse for what they shipped you. the only way i can see you marketing these is cutting them up and selling them as patch panels.

ondrew

Sweet72 · 08-24-2006, 09:41 PM

Sell them to guys who would like to "Tub" their ride. Looks like the inboard crinkled part could be cut off and the good part welded to an orig set of wheel tubs. I bought a set of floor pans from LMC that were wrinkled like that and sent 'em back at my own cost.

**special-K** · 08-25-2006, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

x2 They look alot better than the ones in my 2wd

*Pic is before I cleaned all the crap out of it when I got it.

I`d weld a patch before going through the work to change that just to put one in with more wrinkles that w.Bush`s forehead.

MrGoodpliers · 08-25-2006, 10:50 AM

Wow, that's as ugly as a sack full of bootyholes! Sorry you got the shaft... Chalk another up to the Originals in the "original or repo?" debate.

72Levi · 08-25-2006, 10:58 AM

I know you got those overseas but from where? China?

SoCal71K20 · 08-25-2006, 11:43 AM

Answer to question-No. It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who gets stuck buying cheap fuggin overseas crap to replace U.S. made original parts. As long as the overseas cheapie companies are making money don't ever expect quality to be in parts description. I guess that is what it comes down to- less made here and everything else comes from overseas. The walmart attitude. it would be good to see machine shops and factories reopen making quality parts again here in U.S. Probably just a dream though. Good luck.

**special-K** · 08-25-2006, 10:55 PM

All stamped steel reproduction body parts are made overseas,to the best of my knowledge.Unlike you,SoCal71K20,I feel sorry for everybody.

CG · 08-25-2006, 11:38 PM

Hmmm maybe its a conspirancy and those over seas guys are going to try to sell patch panels for those.

ADay73 · 08-29-2006, 08:33 PM

does anyone know anyone who offers extended OEM inner bed fenders for bigger tires (mini-tubbed)? Thanks for the help.

lilpup69chevy · 08-29-2006, 08:40 PM

now see why you should buy american??? but man i hate to see that guy that sucks they came like that they need to get there sh*t together

08-23-2006, 11:33 PM	#1
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,158	Would you buy one of these? Not sure this goes here or Review section, but it is a new problem from our friends (?) overseas. When every other industry is trying to make product improvements---these things show up in a big shipment. We are going backwards. Rear wheel tubs: look at the severe wrinkling in the corners. We had some problems in the past, but NEVER this bad. I thought you should be warned, before buying this part...ask about bad stampings before you order/buy. I am probably stuck with a bunch of them, because it costs too much to return...if they would even take them back. Attached Images

08-23-2006, 11:55 PM	#2
bskylerj Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SPOKANE, WASHINGTON Posts: 1,001	Re: Would you buy one of these? That sucks for you to have to eat those Frank. You would think they could work with you if you sent photos instead of shipping returning them.

08-24-2006, 12:20 AM	#3
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: Would you buy one of these? are those stock sizes or extra deep oe style??? im not picky and will need bigger than stock.

08-24-2006, 06:31 AM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Would you buy one of these? I like replacement parts that need less work than the piece I`m replacing.That is just sub-standard for anywhere in the world.My cheapo BBQ is made better than that! __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

08-24-2006, 08:12 AM	#5
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08-24-2006, 09:08 AM	#7
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08-24-2006, 10:45 AM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Would you buy one of these? Something like that should not pass any quality control.Evidently,quality control doesn`t exist at that company.I wouldn`t want my name on a product like that.They should take it back,n/c,and apologize for jambing you up.This is busuness to business.That would be the last business I`d do with them,if they don`t get straight with you on it. I`ve never seen one that needed replaced except to restore a bed to pretty.I wouldn`t go through the effort of changing one on a driver to end up with that.Bondo won`t hold up with real truck use.In a work truck,why replace them just to beat them up again,which will be easier with repro stampings.It`s just worthless sheetmetal,I`d be pizzed. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

08-24-2006, 02:48 PM	#9
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,158	Re: Would you buy one of these? These are fresh new housings, not old or returned. This is the first time they have come individually boxed, rather than in bulk quantities. Nice boxes-bad parts. I opened the first two for display and then just quit and put them all out in storage. We can't sell crap like this! I do not know how we are ever going to get these overseas parts cleaned up. Some of the same problems & complaints have been going on for years!

08-24-2006, 03:04 PM	#10
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Re: Would you buy one of these? That's unbelieveable - took me a minute to even see that they were actually even tubs. It's sad you have to eat an order like that! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

08-24-2006, 03:37 PM	#11
BarryB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Blountville, Tn. Posts: 3,904	Re: Would you buy one of these? So sad, but i agree with a couple of the others on here. Maybe you can regain some of your money by selling to people for their work trucks.

08-24-2006, 07:54 PM	#14
roj2323 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 985	Re: Would you buy one of these? in a word "no" i wouldn't buy them. obviously there is a serious problem with they're stamping machine or stamps, i would call and screem and yell untill something happens. there is really no excuse for what they shipped you. the only way i can see you marketing these is cutting them up and selling them as patch panels. ondrew

08-24-2006, 09:41 PM	#15
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: Would you buy one of these? Sell them to guys who would like to "Tub" their ride. Looks like the inboard crinkled part could be cut off and the good part welded to an orig set of wheel tubs. I bought a set of floor pans from LMC that were wrinkled like that and sent 'em back at my own cost. __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction. Last edited by Sweet72; 08-24-2006 at 09:42 PM.

08-25-2006, 10:50 AM	#17
MrGoodpliers Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gainesville, Georgia Posts: 704	Re: Would you buy one of these? Wow, that's as ugly as a sack full of bootyholes! Sorry you got the shaft... Chalk another up to the Originals in the "original or repo?" debate. __________________ We made Oklahoma a little after 3, Randy & his brother Bob & my old GMC...

08-25-2006, 10:58 AM	#18
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08-25-2006, 11:43 AM	#19
SoCal71K20 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lemon Grove, California Posts: 152	Re: Would you buy one of these? Answer to question-No. It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who gets stuck buying cheap fuggin overseas crap to replace U.S. made original parts. As long as the overseas cheapie companies are making money don't ever expect quality to be in parts description. I guess that is what it comes down to- less made here and everything else comes from overseas. The walmart attitude. it would be good to see machine shops and factories reopen making quality parts again here in U.S. Probably just a dream though. Good luck.



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08-25-2006, 10:55 PM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Would you buy one of these? All stamped steel reproduction body parts are made overseas,to the best of my knowledge.Unlike you,SoCal71K20,I feel sorry for everybody. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

08-25-2006, 11:38 PM	#21
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,021	Re: Would you buy one of these? Hmmm maybe its a conspirancy and those over seas guys are going to try to sell patch panels for those.

08-29-2006, 08:33 PM	#22
ADay73 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 11	Re: Would you buy one of these? does anyone know anyone who offers extended OEM inner bed fenders for bigger tires (mini-tubbed)? Thanks for the help.

08-29-2006, 08:40 PM	#23
lilpup69chevy 67-72 parts finder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: southeast mo Posts: 788	Re: Would you buy one of these? now see why you should buy american??? but man i hate to see that guy that sucks they came like that they need to get there sh*t together

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