Couple Cooling Questions - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Draggn66 · 09-05-2006, 05:43 PM

I'm seriously thinking about an aftermarket a/c setup for my 71 C10. I've searched the archives for quite a while and it looks like the way to go is vintage air. One thing that I haven't found out though is how well does the heater work? Is the fan really all that loud? I'm in the Chicago area and I'd like to have a/c in the summer but I need heat in the winter! Has anyone used one of these kits from ebay? #140016477025 One last question......I ordered a new radiator from www.radiator.com today. Because I'm not near my truck today I didn't know if it was a 3 row or 4. The tech guy said since one of the heater hoses goes into the radiator and not to the water pump that it is a 4 row. Is that right? Hope so or it won't fit correct? Thanks in advance.

kbs71 · 09-05-2006, 10:33 PM

I have a 2 row that the heater hose goes into the radiator and not the water pump, so the guys full of crap. The mounts for the 3 and 4 are the same I believe, it's just the 2 row that's smaller. If it doesn't fit, you can buy new mounts and rubbers from any of the board dealers here.

low'n slow · 09-05-2006, 10:59 PM

My brother lives in Idaho. Weather is not as cold as it can get in Chicago. He said the 2nd happiest day of his life was the day he took out his vintage air heater and put the deluxe heater back in. He froze his behind. If you were in the south, it wouldn't be a big deal. Just my advice.

Draggn66 · 09-06-2006, 04:39 PM

Yea the tech guy was full of it! Got the radiator today, very nicely packaged and in great shape but.....it's a 4 row and my orginal was a 2. Granted the 4 row will be a better radiator but now I have to figure out what I need to make it fit and wait for it to arrive! Which brings me to my next question....how does everyone feel about LMC? I've ordered 3 times from them in the last couple weeks and my orders have arrive fast and accurate. But I'm not crazy about their shipping charges. My last order was over $300 and the shipping was over $30. I don't know maybe it's me cause I'm used to ordering for my Harleys and anything over $200 is free shipping. Ok done ranting. This is a great site and I love the archives!

junkyardjohn · 09-06-2006, 04:57 PM

I Was Taught Not To Say Anything, If I Didn't Have Anything Nice To Say. Lmc Sure Has Nice Catalogs & They Send Me A New One About Every 90 Days. John

see ten · 09-06-2006, 05:10 PM

LMC has pretty catalogs, but aside from that I have no real use for them. I can't complain about the heat on my Vintage Air system but I do live in Georgia. I think if it turned into a problem I would look at some supplemental heat(something like the electric back seat heat units). I had to have air and Vintage was the way to go. I can always figure out a way to get warm but there are only so many cooling options.

LONGHAIR · 09-06-2006, 07:30 PM

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Yea the tech guy was full of it! Got the radiator today, very nicely packaged and in great shape but.....it's a 4 row and my orginal was a 2. Granted the 4 row will be a better radiator but now I have to figure out what I need to make it fit and wait for it to arrive!

Be aware that thie bigger radiator, while great in the summer, can cause you heating problems when it is very cold. You may have to block part/most of it in the winter to get your engine to warm up properly. As long as you have hot enough coolant to the Vintage Air system it should be ok, but as see ten said, you can always suppliment with something electric.

PanelDeland · 09-06-2006, 07:33 PM

Draggin, you may want to try some of the BB vendors.They tend to have better pricing and usually more knowledgable staff.Some will carry stuff to shows so that you can pick it up there and save shipping.If not there may be one within driving distance for you.I think there is a list on the home page but with the changes I'm not sure.

GMC Jim · 09-07-2006, 07:02 AM

I don't believe the size of the radiator has very much to do with the heater output... The thermostat controls the water temp for the engine and the heater. Use a 190 degree thermostat, and everything should be fine.

09-05-2006, 10:33 PM	#2
kbs71 71 rustless in texas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 257	Re: Couple Cooling Questions I have a 2 row that the heater hose goes into the radiator and not the water pump, so the guys full of crap. The mounts for the 3 and 4 are the same I believe, it's just the 2 row that's smaller. If it doesn't fit, you can buy new mounts and rubbers from any of the board dealers here. __________________ "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." "No one really listens to anyone else, and if you try it for a while you'll see why" 71 C-10 LWB presently in a perpetual state of disassembly '96 Toyota (my work car) '04 Mustang Convertable (wife's car & other money pit) Latest aquesition and why my trucks still in the garage covered with junk.. 2010 Aqua Blue metallic 6 speed Manual LS3 2SS/RS Camaro (I want one of these in my truck FAQ here VENDORS here SUPPORT THE BOARD here My second favorite SITE

09-05-2006, 10:59 PM	#3
low'n slow Too Dumb To Know Better Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 882	Re: Couple Cooling Questions My brother lives in Idaho. Weather is not as cold as it can get in Chicago. He said the 2nd happiest day of his life was the day he took out his vintage air heater and put the deluxe heater back in. He froze his behind. If you were in the south, it wouldn't be a big deal. Just my advice.

09-06-2006, 04:39 PM	#4
Draggn66 Wrenchin & Sandin!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Joliet, IL. Posts: 523	Re: Couple Cooling Questions Yea the tech guy was full of it! Got the radiator today, very nicely packaged and in great shape but.....it's a 4 row and my orginal was a 2. Granted the 4 row will be a better radiator but now I have to figure out what I need to make it fit and wait for it to arrive! Which brings me to my next question....how does everyone feel about LMC? I've ordered 3 times from them in the last couple weeks and my orders have arrive fast and accurate. But I'm not crazy about their shipping charges. My last order was over $300 and the shipping was over $30. I don't know maybe it's me cause I'm used to ordering for my Harleys and anything over $200 is free shipping. Ok done ranting. This is a great site and I love the archives! __________________ Randy Shorewood, IL. My Favorite eBay Searches My Driver Restore Thread 1971 C10 Longbed 2005 Silverado Shortbed 2005 FXDWG Last edited by Draggn66; 09-06-2006 at 05:19 PM.

09-06-2006, 04:57 PM	#5
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Couple Cooling Questions I Was Taught Not To Say Anything, If I Didn't Have Anything Nice To Say. Lmc Sure Has Nice Catalogs & They Send Me A New One About Every 90 Days. John __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 09-06-2006 at 04:57 PM.

09-06-2006, 05:10 PM	#6
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Couple Cooling Questions LMC has pretty catalogs, but aside from that I have no real use for them. I can't complain about the heat on my Vintage Air system but I do live in Georgia. I think if it turned into a problem I would look at some supplemental heat(something like the electric back seat heat units). I had to have air and Vintage was the way to go. I can always figure out a way to get warm but there are only so many cooling options.

09-05-2006, 05:43 PM	#1
Draggn66 Wrenchin & Sandin!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Joliet, IL. Posts: 523	Couple Cooling Questions I'm seriously thinking about an aftermarket a/c setup for my 71 C10. I've searched the archives for quite a while and it looks like the way to go is vintage air. One thing that I haven't found out though is how well does the heater work? Is the fan really all that loud? I'm in the Chicago area and I'd like to have a/c in the summer but I need heat in the winter! Has anyone used one of these kits from ebay? #140016477025 One last question......I ordered a new radiator from www.radiator.com today. Because I'm not near my truck today I didn't know if it was a 3 row or 4. The tech guy said since one of the heater hoses goes into the radiator and not to the water pump that it is a 4 row. Is that right? Hope so or it won't fit correct? Thanks in advance. __________________ Randy Shorewood, IL. My Favorite eBay Searches My Driver Restore Thread 1971 C10 Longbed 2005 Silverado Shortbed 2005 FXDWG Last edited by Draggn66; 09-05-2006 at 05:49 PM.

09-06-2006, 07:33 PM	#8
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Couple Cooling Questions Draggin, you may want to try some of the BB vendors.They tend to have better pricing and usually more knowledgable staff.Some will carry stuff to shows so that you can pick it up there and save shipping.If not there may be one within driving distance for you.I think there is a list on the home page but with the changes I'm not sure. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

09-07-2006, 07:02 AM	#9
GMC Jim Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 901	Re: Couple Cooling Questions I don't believe the size of the radiator has very much to do with the heater output... The thermostat controls the water temp for the engine and the heater. Use a 190 degree thermostat, and everything should be fine. __________________ '71 GMC;fleetside;PB/PS/AC/CC/402 Eng./Custom Paint/110,000act miles/3 fuel tanks(52gal).



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