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Old 10-08-2006, 07:37 PM   #1
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Question Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

Thinking of buying a new Edelbrock performer 2101 intake and Performer carb 1406.
I have a new GM universal crate motor 10067353 - wasted way too much time and money with the new Holley spreadbore carb and using the original intake mani setup - cant get it properly tuned by anyone, even the old timer racers in CA and TX.

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Designed for small-block and small displacement big-block engines, these carbs are recommended only for stock to Performer level applications. Match with an Edelbrock Performer or Performer EPS manifold and other brands of similar design. Calibrated 2% leaner than #1405. Includes both timed and full vacuum ports for ignition advance. Comes with: Metering Jets – Primary .098, Secondary .095; Metering Rods – .075 x .047; Step-Up Spring – yellow (4" Hg). Use our Carb Stud Kits #8008 or #8024 if needed
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:44 PM   #2
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

im using the ELDELBROCK 750cfm economy series. (not theres an oxymoron)
i used to be a big holley fan till i bought a CARTER AFB. never had to tune it for my stock 350. i have the 750 on my 402 and it doesnt miss a beat. just tuned the idle mixture screws and drive it. IMHO you cant go wrong with these carbs on a basic stock setup (bb or SB)

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Old 10-08-2006, 07:47 PM   #3
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Thanks, that gives me some comfort in trying Edelbrock this time!
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:55 PM   #4
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

From what I know, Edelbrock carbs are way harder to tune right than Holleys. Maybe your Holley needs a rebuild, or maybe they threw something together wrong in the factory.

I've got no experience with Edelbrock, but I've had a few Holley square bores with no problems, and, of course, a billion Rochesters with nothing but problems.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong. :P
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:05 PM   #5
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Nothing but good luck for me on using them,I have a 1405 on a stout 327 with a Performer intake and a 1406 on same manifold on a 350.I sold all my Holleys
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:06 PM   #6
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

I have a 1406 on my pickup with a 66 283 power pack motor. It has never skipped a beat. It was out of the truck in my garage for 6 months, and started back up and has been flawless. I used to love Holley, even with all of the tinkering sometimes required. I like the Edelbrock much better. Welcome to the site!! I recognize you from the Impala SS board!!
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:07 PM   #7
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

I would highly reconmend them. I only use edelbrock for my personal stuff. They are great for daily drivers.
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

"Edelbrock performer 2101 intake and Performer carb 1406"

That is the pair I put on my 350 crate this year in my 69 SWB. Runs great.
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From what I know, Edelbrock carbs are way harder to tune right than Holleys. Maybe your Holley needs a rebuild, or maybe they threw something together wrong in the factory.

I've got no experience with Edelbrock, but I've had a few Holley square bores with no problems, and, of course, a billion Rochesters with nothing but problems.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong. :P
WELL I DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIANCE WITH THEM (IF I DIDN'T I SURE WOULDN'T COMMENT ON THEM ) & HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD LUCK WITH THEM. I WOUDN'T EVEN CONSIDER BUYING ANYTHING ELSE. AFTER RUNNING ONE , YOU WON'T EVEN LET A HOLLY IN YOUR GARAGE. JOHN
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:21 PM   #10
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

Edelbrock and Carter are both made by Weber and are the best IMO for ease of use and daily driving. Very easy to adjust and run with no issues. I have a Carter AFB on my truck now and have had several Carter/Edelbrocks on past setups without any issues.

I've had one Holley and didn't care for it. I helped a friend with his Deamon carb and we still can get it to run right.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:28 PM   #11
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

Count me in on the AFB gang. had a holley, never doing it again.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:35 PM   #12
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

A rule of thumb is edelbrock is great for economy and everyday use and holley is the "get gas in me before this big cam shuts me off". I've had the 1405, 1406, and the 1407 along with the carter afb on many different and havent had any problems. Re jetting them is even more fun! Good luck!
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:36 PM   #13
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

I'll have to take that all into consideration when I build up the 454 for my truck. I've been eyeing a set of Edelbrock aluminum heads for it, and figured I'd have to go with their intake, too, to keep things matched up.

Learn something new every day. And I'm not even the guy who started this thread. Thanks.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:01 PM   #14
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

THANKS! I have spent a lot of time and money with Holley and plenty of rejetting! I think I am sold on Mr Vic Edelbrock Jr. My local hotrodder guy told me to go with a Holley (different carb than the money pit I have now), but I think its cause he has played with them for years.
If I dont find a good price and availability around San Antonio, then I will order parts thru Pace, Summit or Scoggin.
Right now my truck wont start (seems fuel related - maybe my $12 AC Delco fuel pump went out again?) so I towed it off the street with a tow strap off my Escalade. I'll hook my spark checker up first.
Maybe I'll look at the Edelbrock fuel pump? I wonder if my original style fuel line matches up to this kind of carb I would buy or I gotta buy some adapter peices?:

Info on the $80 pump:
Designed to match Performer Series carburetors, Edelbrock's High-Performance Street Fuel Pumps have 6 valves and a flow capacity of 110 gallons per hour. The unique valve design improves flow quantity and quality, and will support engines up to 550 hp. High-volume, 3/8" NPT inlet and outlet surpasses the capacity of conventional models. Produces 6 psi which is correct fuel pressure for street.
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Thinking of buying a new Edelbrock performer 2101 intake and Performer carb 1406.

Thats what I have on my 71 w/ a 350. Not one problem Hooked it up straight out of the box and she runs like a champ! BTW, Welcome from College Station...
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Mr Centsless, Your name is quite familiar. I matched our signatures (vehicles) up & I think we both pay too much for car insurance (plus we have a 4Runner 4WD, but I swear it was my wife's idea)! BTW - not sure if you went, but I barely missed ImpalaFest this year.
I guess I am mixed up as I thought I was part of this 67-72 fourm before and was told I didnt exist, so I registered. I guess it was another one like this (but not chevytalk or myoldtruck)

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Oh, it looks like that disc brake club might just be an extension of your 'handle'
well in that case I am in the disc brake, drum brake, fleetside and 350/350 clubs
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:34 PM   #18
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

if you are really tight you can have my old 2101, just need a home and a good cleaning, pay the ride and its yours.

the only reason i took it off was i was in a ****ty spot and didnt have the time to clean it right for replacement so i bought a new one, i literaly HAD to change intakes in the parking lot of autozone.
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

I like Edelbrock, nothing wrong for me yet, in the few things I've gotten from them. But really, is the 1406 Carb more of an economy than the others? Well dagnabit! I wanted to pump MORE fuel in my hog! Really though, I run a Performer intake, and #1406 E-choke 600cfm carb on my 69 (well, did, before I started tearing everything down) and I never really had trouble with it, after we set it up right and my buddy adjusted it for me (don't play around with mixtures and crap, unless you know what you're doing) when we stuffed the HEI in and timed it right and everything.
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I have had and used several edelbrock Carbs. You couldn't give me one. I might use one for a boat anchor. Thats my opinion. There intakes are fine but carbs are junk. I am not the only one that thinks this way. Several of my friends have had nothing but bad luck out of them. Constantly overloading. They all have dead spots. And that is brand new out of the box. They may work fine for a mild built (stock) motor. But when your trying to get tenths of seconds knocked off. Demon or Holley is the way to go for carbs. IMO.
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I got an edelbrock got one problem with it and that is it outlasted 1 engine.Just go to an autopart store and look what they have on their shelfs a whole lot of holley kits and one edelbrock kit with dust on it.
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Mr Centsless, Your name is quite familiar. I matched our signatures (vehicles) up & I think we both pay too much for car insurance (plus we have a 4Runner 4WD, but I swear it was my wife's idea)! BTW - not sure if you went, but I barely missed ImpalaFest this year.
I guess I am mixed up as I thought I was part of this 67-72 fourm before and was told I didnt exist, so I registered. I guess it was another one like this (but not chevytalk or myoldtruck)

Contact me direct about this disc brake club? On the 70 C10 I converted front drums to disc - might do rear and need advice with front proportioning.
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You got that right about the car insurance!!! Kind of weird the similarity in vehicles.....I did not go to Impalafest. My brother in-law and I race two "tough trucks" locally and that consumes most of the weekends that I have free in the summer. Go to youtube and search "centsless jeep" and you'll see. As far as the proportioning valve, either an aftermarket adjustable or one off of a 9c1 or SS would be my solution.
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If you go into your User CP and click on 'group memberships' you can join the disc brake club, or any other that are fitting...
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Re: Any thoughts on buying Edelbrock?

Running a Performer and Carter AFB on my BB, still have the Edelbrock, only difference I can see ( actually feel) is the AFB has a little more punch on acceleration. That could be just me or I did a better job of setting up the AFB. Had to replace the accelerator pump on the AFB and it looks identical to the Edelbrock. Would not hesitate to buy either one again.
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