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*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:37 PM

69 CHEVY 355 SMALL BLOCK

LETS START WITH THE HEADS
stock 882 cast heads press in studs ....start to finish
stud towers milled off and tapped for 3/8 studs and push rod guides
Z valve springs, comp cams retainers, and positive valve seals.
comp cam full roller rockers ,1.5 ratio and 3/8" studs.
gm performance valves

used lock tight on stud bolts ---- 3 angle valve job. $325.00

*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:40 PM

installing new studs and guide plates and 1 coat of paint

comp cam poly locks.. rebagged ready to install on block...

*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:42 PM

finishing up

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:21 PM

well lets start to day by removing the oil pan..
notice the 4 bolt mains

clean the block head mating surfaces and retap out all mounting holes
apply thread sealant to all head bolt holes and bolts preinstall

oil pump tube welded into place

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:24 PM

after cleaning surfaces...clean out all mounting threaded holes with the tap set..a must for head bolts...

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:28 PM

some new parts..
arp head bolts
arp fuel pump rod
lifters
cam
double roller t-chain
felpro gasket set

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:36 PM

install heads after surfaces are all cleaned up
thread sealer applyed to head bolt holes and all new arp head bolt threads
tighten to specs

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:41 PM

lets jam on the cam and lifters.
timing chain cover and balancer
HERES A LINK FOR A THREAD I HAVE SINCE MADE FOR GETTING THE TIMING RIGHT

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=225820

lots of lube on all the cam lobes and lifter bottoms
i would have taken a picture of the cam lubed but i was afraid i might drop and break it inhalf

this is the hotest cam i can run with a stock converter and also power brakes

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:47 PM

install lifters and timing cover

new super duper oil pan will be here tommarrow
install hardened push rods and full roller rockers

set intake and some tall valve covers on for storage

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 06:28 PM

as soon as i get my new oil pan...MONDAY NIGHT....
we will be installing it with a new one piece oil pan gasket....

then we move to the intake installation...
then we install the hei dizzy w/pictures and stock hei wire rotation..
then i will show how to prime the engine on the engine stand to check for leaks...
INSTALLING ALL THE HARDWARE ON THE ENGINE W.P. P.S. PULLEYS A/C
then it will be adjusting the new roller rockers and engine installation in the truck..
then a start up video with my new camera

2000 RPM FOR 20 MIN...OPEN HEADERS...

DON'T GO AWAY !!!!!!!

O YEA AND SOME Q-JET TRICKS....

action · 11-12-2006, 06:43 PM

Whats up with all the over spray? Aren't you afraid of all that paint running thru your motor. some old valve covers would sure keep a lot of the paint where it belongs.
Jack

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 09:33 PM

this is the ENGINE/DRIVETRAIN fourm right?

stllookn · 11-13-2006, 03:42 AM

rage'nrat638, Would you tap the studs with a very mild hydraulic cam with only .420/.442 lift? I am doing a temporary and mild rebuild of a sb400 and won't be revving above about 3500 rpm. I love the paint...nothing nicer than shiny new Chevy orange! Did you Locktite the cam bolts?

*rage'nrat638* · 11-13-2006, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stllookn

rage'nrat638, Would you tap the studs with a very mild hydraulic cam with only .420/.442 lift? I am doing a temporary and mild rebuild of a sb400 and won't be revving above about 3500 rpm. I love the paint...nothing nicer than shiny new Chevy orange! Did you Locktite the cam bolts?

i had trouble with the nuts on the rockers coming loose with the 4:11 rear end .. reving 3100 rpm at 60mph,
ploy locks might have fixed it....
yes i used lock tight on the cam bolts...
thanks for your input...

*Billla* · 11-13-2006, 11:12 AM

Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions:

It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only)
Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast?
What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces?

A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective:

I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck?
I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap.

*rage'nrat638* · 11-13-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billla

Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions:

It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only)
Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast?
What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces?

A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective:

I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck?
I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap.

the bottom end was just rebuilt 5000 miles ago..
the heads i had redone at the mechine shop...
the intake gasket surfaces will be cleaned with thinner...as was everything
i had rag's stuffed in each cyl hole while cleaning...
power flushed each cyl...
compressed air dryed....
no threads or animals were hurt or killed during this rebuild

MY OIL PAN GOT SHIPPED TO WISC. SHOULD BE HERE TOMMARROW NIGHT NOW...just as well it's raining outside and i can't (won't) sit my prostreet truck out in the rain

*rage'nrat638* · 11-14-2006, 09:30 PM

ok lets get on with the new oil pan install...
this pan has trap doors inside and a crank scraper...
the best thing is it has flange reinforcement

*rage'nrat638* · 11-14-2006, 09:34 PM

next is 35.00 worth of stainless steel bolts..enough for the complete engine from ace hardware ...SWEET

MY NEW TALL VALVE COVERS...
and two stickers to hold it together...

Crank · 11-14-2006, 11:15 PM

Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup.
Brandon

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crank

Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup.
Brandon

YES YOU CAN GET THIS ONE PIECE GASKET SET FROM MURRYS FOR 29.00 FOR A ONE PIECE OR TWO PIECE REAR MAIN...THEY ARE THE CATS MEOW
yes its blue sealer just in the four corners...the rest goes on dry..
THE KIT COMES WITH ALL NEW BOLTS AND WASHERS....

mySAVIOReigns · 11-15-2006, 02:41 PM

Man, that looks great! I love the black on orange

swb85 · 11-15-2006, 03:58 PM

Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan

& what did it cost?

weasel29gm · 11-15-2006, 07:35 PM

Cool thread and love those home built small blocks.

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb85

Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan

& what did it cost?

ONE SUPER DUPER OIL PAN...49.00 PLUS 15.00 FOR SHIPPING
EBAY ITEM #Item number: 8073851381

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB..._promot_widget

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 09:23 PM

INTAKE INSTALL TIME !!!!!!!
i started by cleaning the mating surface's
put thread sealer in the open ended hole's on the heads...for sure the 4 by the carb base that always seem to leak....

i am using the sweet baby blue silicone that match's the baby blue felpeo gaskets

throw the rubber end seals away..for the intake valley...
put thread sealer on the intake bolt ends and tighten as GM recommends

11-11-2006, 05:37 PM	#1
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary 69 CHEVY 355 SMALL BLOCK LETS START WITH THE HEADS stock 882 cast heads press in studs ....start to finish stud towers milled off and tapped for 3/8 studs and push rod guides Z valve springs, comp cams retainers, and positive valve seals. comp cam full roller rockers ,1.5 ratio and 3/8" studs. gm performance valves used lock tight on stud bolts ---- 3 angle valve job. $325.00 Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-11-2006, 05:40 PM	#2
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary installing new studs and guide plates and 1 coat of paint comp cam poly locks.. rebagged ready to install on block... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-11-2006, 05:42 PM	#3
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary finishing up Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:21 PM	#4
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary well lets start to day by removing the oil pan.. notice the 4 bolt mains clean the block head mating surfaces and retap out all mounting holes apply thread sealant to all head bolt holes and bolts preinstall oil pump tube welded into place Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:24 PM	#5
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary after cleaning surfaces...clean out all mounting threaded holes with the tap set..a must for head bolts... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:28 PM	#6
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary some new parts.. arp head bolts arp fuel pump rod lifters cam double roller t-chain felpro gasket set Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:36 PM	#7
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary install heads after surfaces are all cleaned up thread sealer applyed to head bolt holes and all new arp head bolt threads tighten to specs Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:41 PM	#8
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary lets jam on the cam and lifters. timing chain cover and balancer HERES A LINK FOR A THREAD I HAVE SINCE MADE FOR GETTING THE TIMING RIGHT http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=225820 lots of lube on all the cam lobes and lifter bottoms i would have taken a picture of the cam lubed but i was afraid i might drop and break it inhalf this is the hotest cam i can run with a stock converter and also power brakes Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:47 PM	#9
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary install lifters and timing cover new super duper oil pan will be here tommarrow install hardened push rods and full roller rockers set intake and some tall valve covers on for storage Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 06:28 PM	#10
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary as soon as i get my new oil pan...MONDAY NIGHT.... we will be installing it with a new one piece oil pan gasket.... then we move to the intake installation... then we install the hei dizzy w/pictures and stock hei wire rotation.. then i will show how to prime the engine on the engine stand to check for leaks... INSTALLING ALL THE HARDWARE ON THE ENGINE W.P. P.S. PULLEYS A/C then it will be adjusting the new roller rockers and engine installation in the truck.. then a start up video with my new camera 2000 RPM FOR 20 MIN...OPEN HEADERS... DON'T GO AWAY !!!!!!! O YEA AND SOME Q-JET TRICKS.... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 11-12-2006 at 06:32 PM.

11-12-2006, 06:43 PM	#11
action Active Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Valley Springs, Ca. Posts: 266	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Whats up with all the over spray? Aren't you afraid of all that paint running thru your motor. some old valve covers would sure keep a lot of the paint where it belongs. Jack

11-12-2006, 09:33 PM	#12
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary this is the ENGINE/DRIVETRAIN fourm right? Last edited by rage'nrat638; 11-12-2006 at 09:38 PM.

11-13-2006, 03:42 AM	#13
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary rage'nrat638, Would you tap the studs with a very mild hydraulic cam with only .420/.442 lift? I am doing a temporary and mild rebuild of a sb400 and won't be revving above about 3500 rpm. I love the paint...nothing nicer than shiny new Chevy orange! Did you Locktite the cam bolts? __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 11-13-2006 at 03:43 AM.

11-13-2006, 11:12 AM	#15
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,814	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions: It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only) Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast? What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces? A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective: I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck? I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap. Last edited by Billla; 11-13-2006 at 11:27 AM.

11-14-2006, 09:30 PM	#17
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary ok lets get on with the new oil pan install... this pan has trap doors inside and a crank scraper... the best thing is it has flange reinforcement Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.



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11-14-2006, 09:34 PM	#18
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary next is 35.00 worth of stainless steel bolts..enough for the complete engine from ace hardware ...SWEET MY NEW TALL VALVE COVERS... and two stickers to hold it together... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-14-2006, 11:15 PM	#19
Crank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 1,965	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup. Brandon

11-15-2006, 02:41 PM	#21
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11-15-2006, 03:58 PM	#22
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan & what did it cost? __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

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11-15-2006, 09:23 PM	#25
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary INTAKE INSTALL TIME !!!!!!! i started by cleaning the mating surface's put thread sealer in the open ended hole's on the heads...for sure the 4 by the carb base that always seem to leak.... i am using the sweet baby blue silicone that match's the baby blue felpeo gaskets throw the rubber end seals away..for the intake valley... put thread sealer on the intake bolt ends and tighten as GM recommends Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

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