What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

masterbeavis · 12-24-2006, 10:22 PM

Its been exposed for 2-3 years now. A couple of cylinders filled with water.

bad_turbo · 12-24-2006, 10:24 PM

is that the motor in the '71 Jimmy? Probably just needs the cylinders honed out, new piston rings and a big lopey cam!

**LockDoc** · 12-24-2006, 10:32 PM

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Hey, It's a Chevy. You can't hurt those things.... 4x4 about 2 ft long with the corners shaved off & BFH, break the pistons loose, put it together and drive it.......

LockDoc

timcos · 12-24-2006, 10:44 PM

Wd-40 and some duct tape...good to go.

I recommend an HEI dizzy too.

Tim

Slammed70 · 12-24-2006, 11:22 PM

Wow.....that balancer is HUGE

Bishops Trucks · 12-24-2006, 11:33 PM

If you can get all the old stuff out and get it machined it will breath again.

68GMC454 · 12-24-2006, 11:49 PM

lets see now wat did i use to use to break things loose...oh yeah i think i used kerosene,,let it soak for a day or so,,then a bfh and a 2x4..and make sur eno little kids or ladies are around to hear the cussing...i think i head the mystery oil is supposed to work to,,or deisel fuel works good..my dad always used deisel on old tractors he would pick up that hadnt run in a while...

Longhorn Man · 12-25-2006, 12:44 AM

I've seen worse brought back to life with no rebuild... but I don't recomend it.

timcos · 12-25-2006, 01:05 AM

Kerosene...is considered a lubricant.

*wolfthing2000* · 12-25-2006, 01:06 AM

GIBBS will fix it right up!!

*wolfthing2000* · 12-25-2006, 01:17 AM

Just looks like a "protective coating of rust" to me. If you have wore out parts, just let em set out , rust up good and assemble and good to go!!!!! Brings back the size..............(old sprint car trick!) I would soak it good with Gibbs, about a week or so, get it in everywhere that moves, and take it apart and hone it out , assemble with a clean bottom end and watch it scream!! A tight bottom end and wore out ( then honed ) run same size rings as the wore out bore ( loose as a go9ose) and use cast rings, good to go haulin' ass!!

I did this on a 327 with 180,000 that I spun a rod bearing on...........put in a regro8und crank kit, a wrecking yard cam from a 350 and did a valve job. What a screamer!! Revved like no bodys business! Ran lotsa more modern trucks right off the road on the freeway pullin a pass or towin!! Had the Ramas Horn run through duals to turbos. Sounded like the wind goin down the road, quiet as a mouse, then look out when i kicked the secondarys in and blasted past em all in the passing lane in the old 66 fleet!!

Rebuild it ala cheap, since it is a turn around motor for sure. Or break it all down and use the block,,,,,,,,it certainly is seasoned by now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1BadSS · 12-25-2006, 01:35 AM

Definately a 4bolt motor. Well worth saving.

72armyswbtruck · 12-25-2006, 04:26 AM

I think the BFH works best, Oh yah and a few cases of spuds and a few friends

**Boog** · 12-25-2006, 10:20 AM

Had a 327 in this predicament some years back. I soaked the cylinders first then put a grinding stone on an electrical drill and cut down most of the rust buildup to get the pistons out. Rust pits too deep to hone out and the rest of the engine was all standard size so I had the 2 bad cylinders sleeved, honed the other 6, polished crank, new cam and fresh heads and way to go.

*wolfthing2000* · 12-25-2006, 04:31 PM

Much better choice than a crate motor!!!!

Ram-Man · 12-25-2006, 08:12 PM

1 can of "liquid lifters" and it should be ready to fire up.

Longhorn Man · 12-25-2006, 08:26 PM

fill the cylinders with brake fluid, and come back tomorow, you'll get 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the vrank... then top them off again and go back the folowing day. This is assuming you drag it inside.
Again... not recomended onless you like damaged rings and a crappy seal. It'll smoke for a year untill something lets go.

1BadSS · 12-25-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

fill the cylinders with brake fluid, and come back tomorow, you'll get 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the vrank... then top them off again and go back the folowing day. This is assuming you drag it inside.
Again... not recomended onless you like damaged rings and a crappy seal. It'll smoke for a year untill something lets go.

Hm, brake fluid will really help eh? I've got a 350 shortblock that has two frozen pistons... Had pb sitting the bores for 3 months now, wont budge.

RustyParts · 12-25-2006, 10:45 PM

Nothing better than a well seasoned block.

Longhorn Man · 12-25-2006, 10:49 PM

yep, brake fluid should unlock the rings from the walls...if the crank is stuck too, then I have no idea how to unstick it short of disasembly.

1BadSS · 12-25-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

yep, brake fluid should unlock the rings from the walls...if the crank is stuck too, then I have no idea how to unstick it short of disasembly.

Crank itself is unstuck, only the rings themselves are stuck.

**JDL** · 12-25-2006, 11:16 PM

It would be a real good block for a rebuild.

blacktruck · 12-25-2006, 11:24 PM

i'd personally, if it was my block, i'd just spring for a whole rebuild. that's my $.02. there are plenty others with much more experience on these matters.

*wolfthing2000* · 12-26-2006, 12:44 AM

If it is stuck , use GIBBS lubricant. This stuff penetrates like nobodys busines and leaves behind a good lubricant that fights corrosion. Forget all of the back yard, homemade penetrating oils. I'm not saying they don't work to an extent, but Gibbs is the one!!!

masterbeavis · 12-26-2006, 01:26 AM

I didnt want to say anything, but I had that motor turning freely within 40 minutes of fooling with it(before I posted this thread). Without touching the motor, I put a 3 foot breaker bar on the balancer bolt, and it moved 10* or so. I worked it back and forth for a mintue or two, had it up to 30* I scraped the crud I could off the cylinder walls with a flexible putty knife, then some WD40 cuz I couldnt find any opened ATF. #3 and #7 were the worst of the bunch, they were the ones holding up the show. No visible rust pits, a hone and ring job will bring this motor back. I dunno about the 4 bolt main part. The shortblock is out of a '75. It is a 010 block, suffix TYW

12-24-2006, 10:22 PM	#1
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Its been exposed for 2-3 years now. A couple of cylinders filled with water.

12-24-2006, 10:24 PM	#2
bad_turbo turbo enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: carmichael, ca. Posts: 1,826	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? is that the motor in the '71 Jimmy? Probably just needs the cylinders honed out, new piston rings and a big lopey cam! __________________ "But daddy, I didn't hit them all with a stick"...what my 6 year old tells me when I pick him up from school early for fighting "

12-24-2006, 10:44 PM	#4
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Wd-40 and some duct tape...good to go. I recommend an HEI dizzy too. Tim __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

12-24-2006, 11:33 PM	#6
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12-25-2006, 12:44 AM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? I've seen worse brought back to life with no rebuild... but I don't recomend it.

12-24-2006, 10:32 PM	#3
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,429	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? - Hey, It's a Chevy. You can't hurt those things.... 4x4 about 2 ft long with the corners shaved off & BFH, break the pistons loose, put it together and drive it....... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

12-24-2006, 11:49 PM	#7
68GMC454 THE VILLIAGE IDIOT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tooele, Utah Posts: 1,405	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? lets see now wat did i use to use to break things loose...oh yeah i think i used kerosene,,let it soak for a day or so,,then a bfh and a 2x4..and make sur eno little kids or ladies are around to hear the cussing...i think i head the mystery oil is supposed to work to,,or deisel fuel works good..my dad always used deisel on old tractors he would pick up that hadnt run in a while... __________________ honestly honey,,i have no idea how that truck got here.

12-25-2006, 01:05 AM	#9
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Kerosene...is considered a lubricant. __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

12-25-2006, 01:06 AM	#10
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? GIBBS will fix it right up!!

12-25-2006, 01:17 AM	#11
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Just looks like a "protective coating of rust" to me. If you have wore out parts, just let em set out , rust up good and assemble and good to go!!!!! Brings back the size..............(old sprint car trick!) I would soak it good with Gibbs, about a week or so, get it in everywhere that moves, and take it apart and hone it out , assemble with a clean bottom end and watch it scream!! A tight bottom end and wore out ( then honed ) run same size rings as the wore out bore ( loose as a go9ose) and use cast rings, good to go haulin' ass!! I did this on a 327 with 180,000 that I spun a rod bearing on...........put in a regro8und crank kit, a wrecking yard cam from a 350 and did a valve job. What a screamer!! Revved like no bodys business! Ran lotsa more modern trucks right off the road on the freeway pullin a pass or towin!! Had the Ramas Horn run through duals to turbos. Sounded like the wind goin down the road, quiet as a mouse, then look out when i kicked the secondarys in and blasted past em all in the passing lane in the old 66 fleet!! Rebuild it ala cheap, since it is a turn around motor for sure. Or break it all down and use the block,,,,,,,,it certainly is seasoned by now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-25-2006, 01:35 AM	#12
1BadSS NOT REALLY BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 1,072	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Definately a 4bolt motor. Well worth saving. __________________ 1987 Mustang Coupe - 2.7 Stroker, 78mm turbo, Stainless header, 3" Exh, FMIC, 160lb/hr Injectors, MS3, twin walbro 255's, 34psi. Eating V8's daily. 04 Pontiac GTO 04 Ford Mustang GT 68 C20 LWB stripper truck 73 K5 Cheyenne 76 C20 Sierra Crew SRW 88 K20 Suburban I'm not hammering on metal just to hammer, i'm creating a piece of art.

12-25-2006, 04:26 AM	#13
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12-25-2006, 10:20 AM	#14
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,141	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Had a 327 in this predicament some years back. I soaked the cylinders first then put a grinding stone on an electrical drill and cut down most of the rust buildup to get the pistons out. Rust pits too deep to hone out and the rest of the engine was all standard size so I had the 2 bad cylinders sleeved, honed the other 6, polished crank, new cam and fresh heads and way to go. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

12-25-2006, 04:31 PM	#15
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Much better choice than a crate motor!!!!

12-25-2006, 08:12 PM	#16
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12-25-2006, 08:26 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? fill the cylinders with brake fluid, and come back tomorow, you'll get 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the vrank... then top them off again and go back the folowing day. This is assuming you drag it inside. Again... not recomended onless you like damaged rings and a crappy seal. It'll smoke for a year untill something lets go.

12-25-2006, 10:45 PM	#19
RustyParts Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wyman, Kentucky Posts: 403	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? Nothing better than a well seasoned block.

12-25-2006, 10:49 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? yep, brake fluid should unlock the rings from the walls...if the crank is stuck too, then I have no idea how to unstick it short of disasembly.

12-25-2006, 11:16 PM	#22
JDL Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Agency IA. Posts: 1,839	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? It would be a real good block for a rebuild. __________________ 72 Chevy short step side with 454 air and tilt. 72 nova project car 63 chevy II drag car Agency Iowa

12-25-2006, 11:24 PM	#23
blacktruck Super Trucker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newnan, Georgia Posts: 201	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? i'd personally, if it was my block, i'd just spring for a whole rebuild. that's my $.02. there are plenty others with much more experience on these matters. __________________ American by birth, Southern by the grace of God. ".. you aint just whistlin' Dixie..." Rebel till I die

12-26-2006, 12:44 AM	#24
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? If it is stuck , use GIBBS lubricant. This stuff penetrates like nobodys busines and leaves behind a good lubricant that fights corrosion. Forget all of the back yard, homemade penetrating oils. I'm not saying they don't work to an extent, but Gibbs is the one!!!

12-26-2006, 01:26 AM	#25
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: What are the chances of this motor ever turning again?? I didnt want to say anything, but I had that motor turning freely within 40 minutes of fooling with it(before I posted this thread). Without touching the motor, I put a 3 foot breaker bar on the balancer bolt, and it moved 10* or so. I worked it back and forth for a mintue or two, had it up to 30* I scraped the crud I could off the cylinder walls with a flexible putty knife, then some WD40 cuz I couldnt find any opened ATF. #3 and #7 were the worst of the bunch, they were the ones holding up the show. No visible rust pits, a hone and ring job will bring this motor back. I dunno about the 4 bolt main part. The shortblock is out of a '75. It is a 010 block, suffix TYW

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