The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2007, 11:28 PM   #1
tranz am
Registered User
 
tranz am's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
Posts: 586
Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

I am about to convert my 69 gmc from the original 307 & 3 speed to a 350 & a 4 speed m21. I see that there is no cross member under the 3 speed and that it attaches to mounts at the bell housing. The unit I want to install doesnt have the provisions for this mount set up on the bell housing. I want to use the large bell housing that accommodates my 11 inch flywheel. will the stock bell housing accommodate the 11 inch fly and will the M21 work with it? Also can I find a cross member to use with my M21. Will one from a th350 work? Thanks
__________________
My build thread
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=456220

Best 1/4 mile time 12.1 @ 111 w/traction issues

1969 GMC SWB
1964 chevy II Nova ht
tranz am is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 12:27 AM   #2
bandit1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Victoria B.C
Posts: 35
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

my stock 307 and 3 on the tree is running an 11 inch clutch. I would run a rear crossmember though.

Jared
__________________
1969 GMC 910
1970 GMC 1500 custom
1972 yamaha 175

"Money is just like trucks you can never have enough"
bandit1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 12:31 AM   #3
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,685
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

I would think the auto x-member would work fine. Should even work in the original auto x-member location.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 07:57 AM   #4
Tx Firefighter
Watch out for your cornhole !
 
Tx Firefighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Azle, Texas
Posts: 14,162
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

Reuse the original bellhousing with the new engine, larger clutch and the 4 speed. Then you don't have to mess with swapping the crossmember.
__________________
I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin
Tx Firefighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 12:14 PM   #5
Spray-Bomb
Texas Big Wig
 
Spray-Bomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mineola, Texas
Posts: 5,620
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

I don't know if it'd work for your 4-speed, but I built my own X-member for my truck out of some C-channel & angle iron

__________________
Just not low enough...
-----------------------------
Sinister

Killer
Spray-Bomb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 01:51 PM   #6
airdale94
Registered User
 
airdale94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Topeka,KS
Posts: 778
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

The Muncie & B/W 4 Speeds use the same cross member as the TH350. A TH400 would require some modification.

The length from bell housing to mount are the same as is the rubber mount.

Last edited by airdale94; 04-28-2007 at 01:58 PM.
airdale94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 07:51 PM   #7
Tx Firefighter
Watch out for your cornhole !
 
Tx Firefighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Azle, Texas
Posts: 14,162
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

Airdale, on these trucks, the original standard transmissions used a bellhousing with mounts built into the bottom of it. The trans did not use a crossmember at all. This is true of the original standard trans in these trucks, including the Saginaw 3 speed and Muncie SM460 and SM465 four speeds. There were no Borg Warner 4 speeds originally on these trucks.
__________________
I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin
Tx Firefighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 08:24 PM   #8
airdale94
Registered User
 
airdale94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Topeka,KS
Posts: 778
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

Yes, I mean't the Muncie and Borg/Warner car transmissions. He said he was gonna put a M21 in it.

I used to be a 70-81 Trans Am man and the T/A's with TH350's or manual transmission Muncie or B/W use the same trans. cross member. If you had a TH400 and wanted to swap to a manual you needed the TH350/manual crossmember.

So what he could do is get I guess a 67-72 truck TH350 cross member. Not a TH400 though.
I would use your large bell housing. Not the stock.

T FF: I read in one of your posts you were an a/c mechanic. Was it in the Nav? That's what I did. Wasn't actually an airdale, but I like the nic and I did work topside.

Last edited by airdale94; 04-28-2007 at 08:41 PM.
airdale94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 10:23 PM   #9
tranz am
Registered User
 
tranz am's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
Posts: 586
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

Cool this is all great information. I thought that the cross members were the same just as in the T/A's. Actually the engine trans combo is still sitting in my T/A which is being restored. I cant stand 350 horses just sitting around like this!
The truck really needs it any how considering the three speed granny sucks in a performance standpoint. I almost think that using all the mounts possible would be the best way to go, more support I would think?
__________________
My build thread
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=456220

Best 1/4 mile time 12.1 @ 111 w/traction issues

1969 GMC SWB
1964 chevy II Nova ht

Last edited by tranz am; 04-28-2007 at 10:24 PM.
tranz am is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 10:38 PM   #10
Tx Firefighter
Watch out for your cornhole !
 
Tx Firefighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Azle, Texas
Posts: 14,162
Re: Transmission cross member issue (Help!)

Airdale, I was always a civilian A&P. I did corporate jets, a little helicopter stuff, then I built ME-262's for museum dispaly.
__________________
I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin
Tx Firefighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com