Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

gregbr · 06-09-2008, 08:07 AM

Before I buy yet another book that doesn't help....

If anybody has this book, does it list how many shortbeds in 1970 had a bigblock installed? THANKS

caminokid · 06-09-2008, 08:58 AM

I have alot of books on Chevy...dont have the red book. Where are you getting it from?

69-72 · 06-09-2008, 09:22 AM

no it doesnt go to that extent but it is still a pretty good book.

gregbr · 06-09-2008, 11:30 AM

I think it was Amazon.com where I saw it.

Longhorn Man · 06-09-2008, 05:07 PM

no book will tell you how many were built like that. GM didn't keep those records. All you'll find is GM's estimate on how many in a percentage, which is useless info becouse they don't tell you the % into 1/2 tons, or % into a model number.
All they say (just looked it up) is in 1970, 5% of the trucks that could get a big block, did get one. This includes;

C/10
Short/step
short/fleet
long/step
long/fleet
cab/chassis short
cab/chassis long
cowl chassis
p/10 short
p/10 long

C/20
fleet
step
longhorn
cab/chassis
cowl/chassis
p/30

C/30
step
fleet
cab/chassis 133
cab/chassis 157
cowl/chassis 133
cowl/chassis 175
p/30 133
p/30 157

Suburban
clam shell
barn door

I don't think I missed anything.
I had the red book, and I personally found it to be sub par. My preference is the Standard Catalog of American Light Duty trucks 1896 to 2000 (isbn 0-87341-933-2)

PanelDeland · 06-09-2008, 07:33 PM

I have both.Niether has the info you're looking for.I have collected as many books on the 67-72 Chevy trucks as I can find.None of them have the info.I seriously doubt GM tracked any of this stuff at the time.They probably do now since it's used in market research to determine what to build for the next models.
It's doubtful that any of the P models had BB.I have never seen a Panel with a BB.Cowl Chassis models were used to build buses,motor homes and probably specialty vehicles like fire trucks and ambulances(maybe),some of which probably had BB power.
I would say the 5% is probably pretty accurate.For instance if 10,000 were bult total then 500 would have been BB.Just a guess but it's the info we have to work with.

gregbr · 06-09-2008, 09:18 PM

Thanks!!

Longhorn Man · 06-09-2008, 09:26 PM

I agree, never seen a big block panal nor p chassis... but as far as I know, they could all be had with it.

06-09-2008, 08:07 AM	#1
gregbr Senoir Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rock Hill, SC USA Posts: 1,214	Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? Before I buy yet another book that doesn't help.... If anybody has this book, does it list how many shortbeds in 1970 had a bigblock installed? THANKS __________________ 67 Chevy, Small back glass, Factory 4WD, Factory Shortbed, Factory V8, Lifted 4" 70 GMC Sierra Grande, Factory Shortbed, Factory 402/400 turbo, Super Custom Interior. Numbers matching with SPID & Build Sheet. 68K Original Miles. Restored 2010 70 GMC Restoration Pictures http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...00&ppuser=4424 Last edited by gregbr; 06-09-2008 at 08:08 AM.

06-09-2008, 08:58 AM	#2
caminokid Chevy nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 2,266	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? I have alot of books on Chevy...dont have the red book. Where are you getting it from? __________________ 84 Chevy Custom Deluxe 1/2 Ton Named Fade To Black II "Remember kids there is NO replacement for displacement!"

06-09-2008, 09:22 AM	#3
69-72 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: 204 Posts: 903	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? no it doesnt go to that extent but it is still a pretty good book.

06-09-2008, 11:30 AM	#4
gregbr Senoir Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rock Hill, SC USA Posts: 1,214	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? I think it was Amazon.com where I saw it. __________________ 67 Chevy, Small back glass, Factory 4WD, Factory Shortbed, Factory V8, Lifted 4" 70 GMC Sierra Grande, Factory Shortbed, Factory 402/400 turbo, Super Custom Interior. Numbers matching with SPID & Build Sheet. 68K Original Miles. Restored 2010 70 GMC Restoration Pictures http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...00&ppuser=4424

06-09-2008, 05:07 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? no book will tell you how many were built like that. GM didn't keep those records. All you'll find is GM's estimate on how many in a percentage, which is useless info becouse they don't tell you the % into 1/2 tons, or % into a model number. All they say (just looked it up) is in 1970, 5% of the trucks that could get a big block, did get one. This includes; C/10 Short/step short/fleet long/step long/fleet cab/chassis short cab/chassis long cowl chassis p/10 short p/10 long C/20 fleet step longhorn cab/chassis cowl/chassis p/30 C/30 step fleet cab/chassis 133 cab/chassis 157 cowl/chassis 133 cowl/chassis 175 p/30 133 p/30 157 Suburban clam shell barn door I don't think I missed anything. I had the red book, and I personally found it to be sub par. My preference is the Standard Catalog of American Light Duty trucks 1896 to 2000 (isbn 0-87341-933-2)

06-09-2008, 07:33 PM	#6
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? I have both.Niether has the info you're looking for.I have collected as many books on the 67-72 Chevy trucks as I can find.None of them have the info.I seriously doubt GM tracked any of this stuff at the time.They probably do now since it's used in market research to determine what to build for the next models. It's doubtful that any of the P models had BB.I have never seen a Panel with a BB.Cowl Chassis models were used to build buses,motor homes and probably specialty vehicles like fire trucks and ambulances(maybe),some of which probably had BB power. I would say the 5% is probably pretty accurate.For instance if 10,000 were bult total then 500 would have been BB.Just a guess but it's the info we have to work with. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

06-09-2008, 09:18 PM	#7
gregbr Senoir Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rock Hill, SC USA Posts: 1,214	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? Thanks!! __________________ 67 Chevy, Small back glass, Factory 4WD, Factory Shortbed, Factory V8, Lifted 4" 70 GMC Sierra Grande, Factory Shortbed, Factory 402/400 turbo, Super Custom Interior. Numbers matching with SPID & Build Sheet. 68K Original Miles. Restored 2010 70 GMC Restoration Pictures http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...00&ppuser=4424

06-09-2008, 09:26 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Anybody have The Chevrolet Pickup Red Book? I agree, never seen a big block panal nor p chassis... but as far as I know, they could all be had with it.



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