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bw4sale · 08-02-2008, 05:35 PM

I finally got to go to my Dad's for the day and work on my truck a little. While I was trying to get it started (been a while), I got out and went around to the front and just for a second (I don't know why) I touched the postive post on the battery. Here's what I don't believe happened except that I was there and it did. When I touched the post, I felt the slightest shock and for a fraction of a second the starter turned over. Switch was OFF. What happened? Like I said, I wouldn't believe it if I heard it. In fact, I'm starting to doubt my self. Must be my electric personality.

Longhorn Man · 08-02-2008, 06:05 PM

were you munchin on the shrooms in the side yard?

BigDaddyDave · 08-02-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

were you munchin on the shrooms in the side yard?

LMAO I have never had anything that good!

ChevLoRay · 08-02-2008, 07:47 PM

Maybe it was some of that legendary Tennessee 'shine.....

Chevyman680063 · 08-02-2008, 08:33 PM

Have you tried putting a lightbulb in your mouth to see if it lights up?

bw4sale · 08-02-2008, 08:35 PM

Mayhaps I breathed in a little too too much of the eather I was of the I was using...using eather to start the truck with truck with truck.

Chevyman680063 · 08-02-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bw4sale

Mayhaps I breathed in a little too too much of the eather I was of the I was using...using eather to start the truck with truck with truck.

Ok now I'm conboozed...or maybe you're conboozed.

1971 K10 shortbox · 08-02-2008, 10:35 PM

In TN wouldnt that Be CORN-boozed

Jtrux · 08-02-2008, 11:05 PM

Guess you probably don't carry jumper cables with you then do you?

Longhorn Man · 08-03-2008, 12:24 AM

Brent... all kidding aside... I have absolutly no clue how this coulda happened. I see no way that it was physicly possible. Not saying you are full of it.... but I just can't see it.

And also, sorry I turned your thread into a joke towards you.

bw4sale · 08-03-2008, 08:08 AM

No problem. Really I kind of expected it to go south pretty fast. I'm thinking it must have been my imagination. And NO I wasn't under the influence of anything.

Longhorn Man · 08-03-2008, 10:46 AM

lol! Well, that is very good to hear.
Is there a chance you heard something else? A kid, dog, cat? Maybe the wife is messin with your head?

**Boog** · 08-03-2008, 10:51 AM

You were really "charged up" about getting to work on your truck weren't you?

but did you get it to run?

bw4sale · 08-03-2008, 12:50 PM

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but did you get it to run?

Oh yeah! Actually, this happened the second time I was trying to start it. The first time I shot a little something down the carb and it hit and ran like a champ. Then, I ran it out of gas making it a little harder to start the second time. I miss it so much. Hopefully soon I will be able to bring it home and really get to working on it.

HoupPhotography · 08-03-2008, 01:19 PM

I hope you get it fixed..... let us know what happens.

BUT

Be carefull getting in and out of your truck, it would be a real bummer if you welded the door shut with your finger......

trucks72 · 08-03-2008, 09:33 PM

I really think you were on the juice this time. Jason

**steelhorse** · 08-03-2008, 10:06 PM

I once put a water pump on my buddies 67 Impala and 30 minutes later it started cranking and fired up for about 3 seconds then shut off and never did it again.The keys were in his pocket and we never touched the electrical system.

**LEEVON** · 08-03-2008, 10:08 PM

if you ever start self-generating gasoline too then you're onto something!

67_C-30 · 08-03-2008, 10:16 PM

This may be not be related at all, but a guy I work with has a '95 Ford F150 4X4 that he hunts in and goes down real muddy trails to get to the hunting lease. We were in the shop one morning about 10:00 AM (2 hours after we get there) and one of the guys in the fab shop came running in screaming that Brian's truck was coming through the building. We ran out there and it had jumped the curb came about 20ft through the grass and was slammed into to the side of metal fab shop building, still trying to go. His truck is a 5 speed truck, and the starter engaged (bypassing the the switch and neutral safety switch) and took off. It was the damnedest thing I'd ever seen! All we could figure was that mud had made either solenoid or the starter short-out and engage because he has the keys in his pocket. We joked and called it the "Christine" truck for the longest time!

**Boog** · 08-03-2008, 10:36 PM

Just like in that movie Maximum Overdrive where the trucks came to life and started killing humans...

bw4sale · 08-04-2008, 09:13 AM

Hah! I just watched Maximum Overdrive about a week ago. I didn't even think of that.

Woody · 08-04-2008, 12:20 PM

ok I will try to explain how this "might" have happened, but it is just my theory (BS).

You had a lot of static built up from walking thru the dusty dry old barn. When you touched the + battery post it discharged the static down through the cable to the solenoid to the start post, thus causing the starter to start to crank. As soon as the static was discharged, it quit.......

Beleive it or not!! (In my best Ripley's voice, LOL)

ChevLoRay · 08-04-2008, 12:27 PM

Okay, here's a scenario that could happen....

If you had previously had it started, meaning that the engine had warmed up to some temperature that would allow for the following, and you then sprayed the ether starting fluid simultaneously as the battery cable neared the terminal AND there was some sort of circuit that got completed, THEN the combination of electricity to operate the starter motor AND the engine sitting with one piston ready to combust the ether/air mixture as a spark plug got just enough "fire" to spark, it could happen.....

I had an old friend who would "play" with the timer on his Model T, after the engine had been run long enough to be hot....and the timer would allow for one of the plugs to fire and that would cause the engine to turn over and start. He had a lot of fun doing that....

Luvlegs · 08-04-2008, 12:29 PM

any possibility the static actually fed to a 12v relay... possibly the headlight relay upgrade? made a click, voltage fed back....

70rs/ss · 08-04-2008, 12:59 PM

Probably not completely a cause here, but I know if I am working on any of my junk, if I am swaetn' (it is only 110-115 degrees here, ya know?!) Anyways, if i lean up against the pos term I get shocked (sweaty appendage against steel parts of truck, then pos term and I become a conductor to the ground). That being said, you could have (and did otherwise this wouldn't have happened) completed the circut from + to - and bumped the started, the ether in the motor probably helped bump it by igniting and or just being a positive pressure?

08-02-2008, 05:35 PM	#1
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	How did this happen? I finally got to go to my Dad's for the day and work on my truck a little. While I was trying to get it started (been a while), I got out and went around to the front and just for a second (I don't know why) I touched the postive post on the battery. Here's what I don't believe happened except that I was there and it did. When I touched the post, I felt the slightest shock and for a fraction of a second the starter turned over. Switch was OFF. What happened? Like I said, I wouldn't believe it if I heard it. In fact, I'm starting to doubt my self. Must be my electric personality. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

08-02-2008, 06:05 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: How did this happen? were you munchin on the shrooms in the side yard?

08-02-2008, 07:47 PM	#4
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: How did this happen? Maybe it was some of that legendary Tennessee 'shine..... __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

08-02-2008, 08:33 PM	#5
Chevyman680063 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 850	Re: How did this happen? Have you tried putting a lightbulb in your mouth to see if it lights up?

08-02-2008, 08:35 PM	#6
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: How did this happen? Mayhaps I breathed in a little too too much of the eather I was of the I was using...using eather to start the truck with truck with truck. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half Last edited by bw4sale; 08-02-2008 at 08:35 PM.

08-02-2008, 10:35 PM	#8
1971 K10 shortbox Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Orion MI Posts: 111	Re: How did this happen? In TN wouldnt that Be CORN-boozed __________________ 1971 Chevy SWB 4x4 1971 Chevy LWB 2003 Duramax

08-02-2008, 11:05 PM	#9
Jtrux I'm a poor spectator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,287	Re: How did this happen? Guess you probably don't carry jumper cables with you then do you? __________________ 2006 Jeep Unlimited IMPACT ORANGE 1993 Chevy 2500 4x4 ExCab LWB 454/NV4500 Tow rig 1977 Ford F100 2x4 LWB 1st truck I owned, still have it!!! 1979 Ford F150 4x4 SWB Built Ford Tough!!! 1971 Chevy Blazer 350 / SM465 / NP205 UNDER CONSTRUCTION Soon to have a LQ4 6.0!!!

08-03-2008, 12:24 AM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: How did this happen? Brent... all kidding aside... I have absolutly no clue how this coulda happened. I see no way that it was physicly possible. Not saying you are full of it.... but I just can't see it. And also, sorry I turned your thread into a joke towards you.

08-03-2008, 08:08 AM	#11
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: How did this happen? No problem. Really I kind of expected it to go south pretty fast. I'm thinking it must have been my imagination. And NO I wasn't under the influence of anything. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

08-03-2008, 10:46 AM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: How did this happen? lol! Well, that is very good to hear. Is there a chance you heard something else? A kid, dog, cat? Maybe the wife is messin with your head?

08-03-2008, 10:51 AM	#13
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,514	Re: How did this happen? You were really "charged up" about getting to work on your truck weren't you? but did you get it to run? __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

08-03-2008, 01:19 PM	#15
HoupPhotography Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 1,204	Re: How did this happen? I hope you get it fixed..... let us know what happens. BUT Be carefull getting in and out of your truck, it would be a real bummer if you welded the door shut with your finger...... __________________ R.I.P. Scott Kalitta

08-03-2008, 09:33 PM	#16
trucks72 trucks72 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crossville Posts: 315	Re: How did this happen? I really think you were on the juice this time. Jason

08-03-2008, 10:06 PM	#17
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Franklinton NC Posts: 1,309	Re: How did this happen? I once put a water pump on my buddies 67 Impala and 30 minutes later it started cranking and fired up for about 3 seconds then shut off and never did it again.The keys were in his pocket and we never touched the electrical system.

08-03-2008, 10:08 PM	#18
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08-03-2008, 10:16 PM	#19
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: How did this happen? This may be not be related at all, but a guy I work with has a '95 Ford F150 4X4 that he hunts in and goes down real muddy trails to get to the hunting lease. We were in the shop one morning about 10:00 AM (2 hours after we get there) and one of the guys in the fab shop came running in screaming that Brian's truck was coming through the building. We ran out there and it had jumped the curb came about 20ft through the grass and was slammed into to the side of metal fab shop building, still trying to go. His truck is a 5 speed truck, and the starter engaged (bypassing the the switch and neutral safety switch) and took off. It was the damnedest thing I'd ever seen! All we could figure was that mud had made either solenoid or the starter short-out and engage because he has the keys in his pocket. We joked and called it the "Christine" truck for the longest time! __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club! Last edited by 67_C-30; 08-03-2008 at 10:17 PM.

08-03-2008, 10:36 PM	#20
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,514	Re: How did this happen? Just like in that movie Maximum Overdrive where the trucks came to life and started killing humans... __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

08-04-2008, 09:13 AM	#21
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: How did this happen? Hah! I just watched Maximum Overdrive about a week ago. I didn't even think of that. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

08-04-2008, 12:20 PM	#22
Woody Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Georgetown, KY, USA Posts: 631	Re: How did this happen? ok I will try to explain how this "might" have happened, but it is just my theory (BS). You had a lot of static built up from walking thru the dusty dry old barn. When you touched the + battery post it discharged the static down through the cable to the solenoid to the start post, thus causing the starter to start to crank. As soon as the static was discharged, it quit....... Beleive it or not!! (In my best Ripley's voice, LOL)

08-04-2008, 12:27 PM	#23
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: How did this happen? Okay, here's a scenario that could happen.... If you had previously had it started, meaning that the engine had warmed up to some temperature that would allow for the following, and you then sprayed the ether starting fluid simultaneously as the battery cable neared the terminal AND there was some sort of circuit that got completed, THEN the combination of electricity to operate the starter motor AND the engine sitting with one piston ready to combust the ether/air mixture as a spark plug got just enough "fire" to spark, it could happen..... I had an old friend who would "play" with the timer on his Model T, after the engine had been run long enough to be hot....and the timer would allow for one of the plugs to fire and that would cause the engine to turn over and start. He had a lot of fun doing that.... __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

08-04-2008, 12:29 PM	#24
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: How did this happen? any possibility the static actually fed to a 12v relay... possibly the headlight relay upgrade? made a click, voltage fed back.... __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

08-04-2008, 12:59 PM	#25
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: How did this happen? Probably not completely a cause here, but I know if I am working on any of my junk, if I am swaetn' (it is only 110-115 degrees here, ya know?!) Anyways, if i lean up against the pos term I get shocked (sweaty appendage against steel parts of truck, then pos term and I become a conductor to the ground). That being said, you could have (and did otherwise this wouldn't have happened) completed the circut from + to - and bumped the started, the ether in the motor probably helped bump it by igniting and or just being a positive pressure?

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