The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-15-2008, 04:40 PM   #1
stope4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 434
Engine hard to start

had to change my HEI module so i pulled the distributor and replaced the module and the coil at the same time. Once I got the truck started, I adjusted timing at around 8 degress based on mark on balancer. Since then the truck is very hard to start. The engine turns over real good but seems to flood and then smoke pours out of the carb without starting. I have to press the gas pedal to the floor and continue to try to start the engine. I keep the gas pedal floored and start trying to crank the engine. When I stop cranking the engine it putters to a start. I've adjusted timing numerous times all causing the engine to maybe start better but run worse. Can't seem to pinpoint problem. Any suggestions?
stope4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 06:37 PM   #2
haysonj
Registered User
 
haysonj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santa Maria, Ca.
Posts: 1,423
Re: Engine hard to start

Quote:
Originally Posted by stope4 View Post
had to change my HEI module so i pulled the distributor and replaced the module and the coil at the same time. Once I got the truck started, I adjusted timing at around 8 degress based on mark on balancer. Since then the truck is very hard to start. The engine turns over real good but seems to flood and then smoke pours out of the carb without starting. I have to press the gas pedal to the floor and continue to try to start the engine. I keep the gas pedal floored and start trying to crank the engine. When I stop cranking the engine it putters to a start. I've adjusted timing numerous times all causing the engine to maybe start better but run worse. Can't seem to pinpoint problem. Any suggestions?
Sounds like a stuck or miss adjusted choke. Definitely a fuel problem if you have to hold the throttle open to get it to start.
__________________
69 Chevy 4x4 383 Power
haysonj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 06:45 PM   #3
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Engine hard to start

what did you do to run electricity to the HEI?
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2008, 11:39 AM   #4
stope4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 434
Re: Engine hard to start

The resistor wire is bypassed. HEI is getting 12 volts. It was starting fine before the HEI module went out. Do you think I may be off a tooth on the distributor?
stope4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2008, 06:25 PM   #5
Ford Assassin
Registered User
 
Ford Assassin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Jackson, Ca.
Posts: 674
Re: Engine hard to start

Have someone turn the engine over while checking the timing, you might be off on the dist.
__________________
Cable

-K5 Blazer 2wd: 6.0 LQ4, 7875 Turbo, Tick Stage II Turbo Cam, Built 4L80e, RevMax Billet 3600, 9.5" 14 Bolt
-Chevy 3+3 Crew Cab Dually: Cummins 12v P-Pump Swap, Compound Turbos, A2W Intercooler, NV4500HD, 4wd conversion, Radius Arms, Coilovers, Crossover Steering, etc
Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=803608
Ford Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2008, 07:41 PM   #6
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Engine hard to start

what is your base timing at?
Does the vac advance work? (unhook the hose from the intake/carb and suck on it)
Is the vac advance hooked to engine vac, or ported vac?
Are you getting spark knock... or 'pinging' when you drive it?
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2008, 09:25 PM   #7
stope4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 434
Re: Engine hard to start

O.k. readjusted distributor one tooth ccw and no more backfire thru carb or whatever was causing the smoke. Starts pretty easy. Set base timing at 9 degrees btdc. Also, no more pinging when accelerating.

Question,
the dist vac is connected to front of carb. Very little vac at idle but there is a tiny little. I assume this is ported vac. There's another port on front of carb that has full vac at idle. I assume this is engine vac. Which one should dist be connected to? Does either make a difference on where to set timing?

Last edited by stope4; 08-16-2008 at 09:25 PM.
stope4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 10:35 AM   #8
Shyguy
Junior Member
 
Shyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southeast Missouri
Posts: 2,436
Re: Engine hard to start

From what I seen in posts on here if your engine is pretty well stock it should be ported vacuum.

When setting the timing I always disconnect and plug the vacuum line to the distributor.

Danny
__________________
'67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465.
'75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435.
'77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck.
'92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.
Shyguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com