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gottwake · 09-19-2008, 01:00 AM

How come I have never seen a 5 link? That is; 2 parallel bars (one on each side of the frame rail) and a pan hard? I have never seen this installation so Im sure there has to be a reason.
Im kind-of-a novice fabricator and this would be easy for me. I dont feel comfortable with the install of the triangulated 4 link. And the parallel bars looks easier to install but I will have to fab the mounts to the rear end like jlaird did to get it parallel with the ground. Anyway, any comments on the 5 link?
Thanks
-Marc

leftcoast66 · 09-19-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gottwake

How come I have never seen a 5 link? That is; 2 parallel bars (one on each side of the frame rail) and a pan hard? I have never seen this installation so Im sure there has to be a reason.
Im kind-of-a novice fabricator and this would be easy for me. I dont feel comfortable with the install of the triangulated 4 link. And the parallel bars looks easier to install but I will have to fab the mounts to the rear end like jlaird did to get it parallel with the ground. Anyway, any comments on the 5 link?
Thanks
-Marc

That's what most people do on a parallel 4 link. Its just called a parallel 4 link when you add the panhard bar also. Or they go big and install a watts link. Only downside with a panhard bar is because it is attached at one side it wants to push the axle sideways through extreme articulation. So for just 5 inches of travel, you should be fine with panhard bar and parallel 4 link, but I wouldn't go much more than that. If its set up well though, a panhard bar is a very effective way to go with a parallel 4 link. Or people go with a watts link, which attaches on both sides and has a pivot in the middle, so you don't run into the problem that the panhard bar has which is going way up, or way down it runs out of range and wants to pull or push the axle to the side.

gottwake · 09-19-2008, 08:16 AM

O, I was under the assumption that a parallel 4 link was only limited to the type that has the two bars vertical (one on top of another) on he outside part of the frame. But that makes sense.

leftcoast66 · 09-21-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gottwake

O, I was under the assumption that a parallel 4 link was only limited to the type that has the two bars vertical (one on top of another) on he outside part of the frame. But that makes sense.

Yeah that's what a parallel 4 link is, and that's the part where it gets its name, but those have nothing to center the axle from moving side to side so that's where the panhard or watts link comes into play.

Dustin07 · 10-06-2008, 07:37 PM

I have a parallel 4link + panhard. did you order your kit yet Marc?

gottwake · 10-07-2008, 12:14 AM

Dustin, no I didnt yet...

ENHANCED AIR RIDE · 10-21-2008, 12:33 AM

A 5-link is 2 forward loer bars an upper frt wishbone and 2 rearward facing "lift bars" on swinging pivots. super lift capabilities and travel. Does use up quite a bit of chassis space but nice when done right.
We build links to spec if needed.

Dustin07 · 10-21-2008, 01:01 PM

that sounds like a 6 link.

Kontrol Phreaks · 10-21-2008, 01:46 PM

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ENHANCED AIR RIDE · 10-21-2008, 02:25 PM

Yes what he said a triangulated with rear lift bars is a 6-link. a wishbone with rear bars is a 5-link

Dustin07 · 10-21-2008, 03:17 PM

that would make sense.

kizer · 10-21-2008, 03:27 PM

A lot of the Jeep guys run the Triangulated 4-link because they want max suspension travel up and down for crawling over things without worrying about the track bar binding.

Heck some even run it dual triangulated opposed to the outside bars being parallel.

Longstep70 · 10-21-2008, 03:32 PM

Not wanting to hijack the thread but does one ride or handle better than the other - triangulated 4 vs. parallel 4?

hotrodhomi · 10-21-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ENHANCED AIR RIDE

A 5-link is 2 forward loer bars an upper frt wishbone and 2 rearward facing "lift bars" on swinging pivots. super lift capabilities and travel. Does use up quite a bit of chassis space but nice when done right.
We build links to spec if needed.

Who are you? Do you have a website?

leftcoast66 · 10-21-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Longstep70

Not wanting to hijack the thread but does one ride or handle better than the other - triangulated 4 vs. parallel 4?

It all depends on what bags you use and where you put them. Both can handle excellent and both can handle horribly if done certain ways.

robin58 · 10-21-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrodhomi

Who are you? Do you have a website?

I would guess the link in his signature would be his website.

kizer · 10-21-2008, 04:40 PM

Clicking on his name took me here.
www.enhancedcustoms.com

I like his model.

hotrodhomi · 10-21-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by robin58

I would guess the link in his signature would be his website.

I think he just added that.

kizer · 10-21-2008, 05:13 PM

Yeah look up above it wasn't in his sig.

Shev · 10-21-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kontrol Phreaks

That does sound like some of the systems we make.

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KP Components
www.kpcomponents.com

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Tony@AirRideTech · 10-21-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottwake

How come I have never seen a 5 link? That is; 2 parallel bars (one on each side of the frame rail) and a pan hard? I have never seen this installation so Im sure there has to be a reason.
Im kind-of-a novice fabricator and this would be easy for me. I dont feel comfortable with the install of the triangulated 4 link. And the parallel bars looks easier to install but I will have to fab the mounts to the rear end like jlaird did to get it parallel with the ground. Anyway, any comments on the 5 link?
Thanks
-Marc

With the exception of our S-10 setups... that is the way most of our AirBars are. They are pretty common piece.

Kontrol Phreaks · 10-21-2008, 07:50 PM

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ENHANCED AIR RIDE · 10-21-2008, 10:51 PM

OK If any of them are done improperly, like anything else it will have less than desireable results. OK certain situations mandate a parallel 4-link, ie most newer trucks to keep gas tank in place, or at least a custom wishbone setup to retain tank. If panhard is long enough and properly mounted it will handle fine. Most consider them for racing use, but work great as long as panhard is longer for less deflection during travel. Triangulateds are a little less cumbersome if room allows. Again it depends on your goals, space, etc.
And yes my web page is in the sig, thanx for finding it.

Dustin07 · 10-21-2008, 11:54 PM

Leave the pot stirring and pissing contests elsewhere. Thanks.

61Flattop · 10-22-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin07

Leave the pot stirring and pissing contests elsewhere. Thanks.

somebody makin dumplins?

09-19-2008, 01:00 AM	#1
gottwake Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 581	Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. How come I have never seen a 5 link? That is; 2 parallel bars (one on each side of the frame rail) and a pan hard? I have never seen this installation so Im sure there has to be a reason. Im kind-of-a novice fabricator and this would be easy for me. I dont feel comfortable with the install of the triangulated 4 link. And the parallel bars looks easier to install but I will have to fab the mounts to the rear end like jlaird did to get it parallel with the ground. Anyway, any comments on the 5 link? Thanks -Marc __________________ Blazer Project

09-19-2008, 08:16 AM	#3
gottwake Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 581	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. O, I was under the assumption that a parallel 4 link was only limited to the type that has the two bars vertical (one on top of another) on he outside part of the frame. But that makes sense. __________________ Blazer Project

10-06-2008, 07:37 PM	#5
Dustin07 Stirrer of the Pot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: washington Posts: 477	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. I have a parallel 4link + panhard. did you order your kit yet Marc?

10-07-2008, 12:14 AM	#6
gottwake Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 581	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Dustin, no I didnt yet... __________________ Blazer Project

10-21-2008, 12:33 AM	#7
ENHANCED AIR RIDE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Largo, Florida Posts: 158	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. A 5-link is 2 forward loer bars an upper frt wishbone and 2 rearward facing "lift bars" on swinging pivots. super lift capabilities and travel. Does use up quite a bit of chassis space but nice when done right. We build links to spec if needed.

10-21-2008, 01:01 PM	#8
Dustin07 Stirrer of the Pot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: washington Posts: 477	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. that sounds like a 6 link.

10-21-2008, 01:46 PM	#9
Kontrol Phreaks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Cali Posts: 242	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. You will need to sign up as a vendor before advertising product for sale. Last edited by Shane; 10-21-2008 at 07:24 PM.

10-21-2008, 02:25 PM	#10
ENHANCED AIR RIDE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Largo, Florida Posts: 158	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Yes what he said a triangulated with rear lift bars is a 6-link. a wishbone with rear bars is a 5-link

10-21-2008, 03:17 PM	#11
Dustin07 Stirrer of the Pot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: washington Posts: 477	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. that would make sense.

10-21-2008, 03:27 PM	#12
kizer Its Deja Vu time again Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marysville, North of Seattle WA Posts: 815	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. A lot of the Jeep guys run the Triangulated 4-link because they want max suspension travel up and down for crawling over things without worrying about the track bar binding. Heck some even run it dual triangulated opposed to the outside bars being parallel. __________________ Its not pretty but its mine to figure out. The build / The Photos / Build Diary

10-21-2008, 03:32 PM	#13
Longstep70 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose , Ca Posts: 235	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Not wanting to hijack the thread but does one ride or handle better than the other - triangulated 4 vs. parallel 4?

10-21-2008, 04:40 PM	#17
kizer Its Deja Vu time again Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marysville, North of Seattle WA Posts: 815	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Clicking on his name took me here. www.enhancedcustoms.com I like his model. __________________ Its not pretty but its mine to figure out. The build / The Photos / Build Diary

10-21-2008, 05:13 PM	#19
kizer Its Deja Vu time again Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marysville, North of Seattle WA Posts: 815	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Yeah look up above it wasn't in his sig. __________________ Its not pretty but its mine to figure out. The build / The Photos / Build Diary

10-21-2008, 07:50 PM	#22
Kontrol Phreaks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Cali Posts: 242	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. ... __________________ - Clint - Last edited by Shane; 10-21-2008 at 11:08 PM.

10-21-2008, 10:51 PM	#23
ENHANCED AIR RIDE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Largo, Florida Posts: 158	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. OK If any of them are done improperly, like anything else it will have less than desireable results. OK certain situations mandate a parallel 4-link, ie most newer trucks to keep gas tank in place, or at least a custom wishbone setup to retain tank. If panhard is long enough and properly mounted it will handle fine. Most consider them for racing use, but work great as long as panhard is longer for less deflection during travel. Triangulateds are a little less cumbersome if room allows. Again it depends on your goals, space, etc. And yes my web page is in the sig, thanx for finding it.



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10-21-2008, 11:54 PM	#24
Dustin07 Stirrer of the Pot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: washington Posts: 477	Re: Before I order my 4 link, I have one question. Leave the pot stirring and pissing contests elsewhere. Thanks. Last edited by Shane; 10-25-2008 at 09:57 AM.

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