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10-23-2008, 08:22 PM | #1 |
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1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Below is a diagram of a 1972 EEC Gas Tank. Since the 72 tank is different than the 67-71 (NON EEC), I'm confused about the tank venting. Here's what I know.
There's a vent fitting on the passenger side of the tank I have a stock charcoal canister and it has an in/out fitting I have the vent loop tube that goes up to the Passenger Side Pillar (from another truck) There's a Sending Unit with 2 lines and there's also one available with 1 line Does anyone know the correct setup. Do I use the Sending Unit with 1 or 2 lines? What is the proper venting for my setup? Do any of these lines go to a vacuum for venting? BTW, I have a 69' SBC 350/Automatic. Yes, I have a 72 In-Cab Tank. I did not relize it when I got it but thats okay. I have had it boiled clean and sealed. Thanks in advance.
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10-23-2008, 08:51 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
ttt, diagram posted
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10-24-2008, 08:16 AM | #3 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
C'mon guys, no-one has a stock 72' in-cab tank setup? Getting close to finally running the truck.
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10-24-2008, 08:26 AM | #4 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
You have the proper schematic for the tank there.
If you want to run the later style configuration, that's correct. The earlier style wouldn't have the charcoal canister (AFAIK). I guess most guys are trying to figure out what the question is? Last edited by FormerMember; 10-24-2008 at 08:27 AM. |
10-24-2008, 09:13 AM | #5 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
I have issues with gas smell so I checked out my carbon canister last night (72 C10 straight six). I found that the carbon canister had three lines going to/from it, one went to the carb, one just hangs down towards the ground and is open, the other has been chopped and a screw plugging it (I take it this is the one that goes to the tank). I will be looking further into the correct hookup this weekend to see if I can figure it out. I did notice that in your pic you don't show a hose going to the carb.
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The other line from the 2 line sending unit goes to the vacuum canister. Vacuum canister can have 2/3 lines. One vapor in from the tank, one overflow out to the ground and the third optional one could be into a vacuum port on the carb. |
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10-24-2008, 10:20 AM | #8 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Okay, well my canister has 2 ports. I guess the vent on the P/S of the tank and the 2nd line from the sending unit can both go to the canister should I still vent through vacuum. Can I use the 1 line sending unit like in my diagram and have the 2nd port on the canister vent to vacuum? Hey thanks for all of you input, sorry for busting you nuts on these questions. I just want to do the right thing. Thankfully, I live in Florida and emissions testing stopped about 7-8 years ago.
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Draw vapor from the tank, so it's not in the cab. The charcoal neutralizes the vapor and what can't be neutralized is burnt in your motor. The vacuum port also provides the "draw" from the tank into the canister. Now the really fun fact: Activated Carbon (charcoal) is really only good for about three days. Which is why some canisters have three ports, in case the charcoal gets clogged or overflows fuel instead of vapor. |
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10-24-2008, 10:31 AM | #10 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Nice. You have done well my friend. Thanks for all your help. I gave you some rep points.
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10-24-2008, 10:32 AM | #11 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
You need the two lines in order for it to vent out of your tank, if you pulled out the sender you would see that the vent line is short, so it will not suck fuel out of your tank.
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Yep, very good point, make sure the short output in the sending unit is hooked to the charcoal caninster or you'll be sucking gas. |
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10-24-2008, 10:53 AM | #13 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Thanks guys. I'm gonna order a 2 line sending unit from brothers right now. Quick thought about that vent nipple on the passenger side of the tank (excuse me if I already addressed it) Will it also go to the canister? If so, since theres only 2 ports, will I still need to vent to carb/intake?
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10-24-2008, 11:24 AM | #14 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Just to throw this in, the older tanks had vented fuel caps as the newer ones with the emissions canasters didnt so to work properly you might check your cap too.
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10-24-2008, 11:41 AM | #15 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
This is true. The 67'-71' tanks have a 2 inch fuel neck allowing a vented gas cap. The 72' tanks on the other hand had a smaller fuel neck, 1-1/4" if I'm correct. These caps, as you stated, are not vented. Thanks for the FYI.
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10-24-2008, 12:19 PM | #16 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Yes you will still have to hook it to the carb in order for the vacuum to suck the vapors out of the tank.
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10-24-2008, 12:23 PM | #17 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
looks like I'll be looking for a canister cap with three ports. again, thanks.
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You could of course, if you had a single fitting sending unit already, run a line from that nipple to the charcoal canister. Last edited by FormerMember; 10-24-2008 at 12:24 PM. |
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10-24-2008, 02:23 PM | #19 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
Grendel, If running the single fitting sending unit will work, I think Ima gonna do that. It is of coarse the correct one with a 3/8" inch fitting for as 350 v-8with automatic.
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You probably have that, too... |
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10-27-2008, 05:24 PM | #21 |
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Re: 1972 EEC In-Cab Gas Tank Dilemma
I put all new hoses on my EEC this weekend. Mine had the one line coming from the sending unit with a small piece of rubber hose attaching to a metal line that follows the passenger side frame up to right below the bottom radiator hose. From there there was about a 3' section of rubber hose that attached to the carbon canister (right behind the passenger side headlight). There was an overflow hose that comes off the neck of the carbon canister (right below the cap) and then there is the line that goes to the carb which is connected to the top of the carbon canister cap. Hope that helps.
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