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imdarren · 02-25-2003, 12:39 AM

Could you guys in the mid west explain ecactly what areas are considered part of the "rust belt"? What states etc.?
Aso. Who else lives in a state where they use salt on the road in the winter. ie: Utah....

Darren

da-burb · 02-25-2003, 12:52 AM

You only need to look at the vehicles to see which ones are in the rust belt. Believe me, Minnesota is one of them.

Chevy Wrench · 02-25-2003, 12:57 AM

Utard is one of those salty states. I hear Wyoming uses sand.

supercheyenne · 02-25-2003, 12:57 AM

Kansas = yes.

Longhorn Man · 02-25-2003, 12:58 AM

Count in Ohio.
Safe bet that any state that gets snow on a regular basis will be tossing salt onto the roads. And as we all know, salt and cars don't mix well.

**Palf70Step** · 02-25-2003, 06:42 AM

I always felt my home land (Pennsylvania) rank high on the list of metal eaters. I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed much since I left there yeasr ago.

hughnews1 · 02-25-2003, 07:47 AM

New york has a new BIG salt mine ... and on the roads also ... Rust never sleeps

bobs409 · 02-25-2003, 08:31 AM

Pennsylvainia uses it like there's no tomorrow!

Since they started using that liquid salt, everything is white days before a snow storm. After they spray it down, it dries on the road, the traffic gets it airborne in a dusty state so the cars parked in your driveway get covered in salt without even going anywhere!

This winter has been nasty too. Everytime the roads get nice, another few inches show up. Last snow storm we got 23 inches! Yikes!

JimKshortstep4x4 · 02-25-2003, 09:01 AM

Michigan uses salt "big time"!

Jim

toms68cst · 02-25-2003, 09:24 AM

They use some salt here though not as much as some other areas of the country. Salt is not effective when it gets bitterly cold so they rely more on sand here. I don't let my truck out on the streets when its a warmer winter day and sloppy out.

rangernsk · 02-25-2003, 09:27 AM

You can put Missouri on the list too.

smokekiki · 02-25-2003, 10:11 AM

I agree with bobs409,Pa is getting crazy with the salt.2-3 days before snow they spray that brine on the roads.That's why my trucks hide inside till spring.

Jason71k10 · 02-25-2003, 10:25 AM

I'm from toronto Canada(close to it anyway), but i've lived in other places in Ontario though, and just about everywhere uses salt or a combination of salt and sand. Like somebody said before, when you go too far north, it gets so cold that the salt won't even melt the ice! so they have to use sand. But down in southern Ontario, they love their salt.......but I hate it, cuz my truck is my daily driver! This past fall I sanded all the old paint down on the driver side door and around a few chipped spots. After I primered it(unfortunatley with primer/surfacer) but the proimer is quite porous, so i have little tiny rust specks all over my poor door

why did I use a surfacer you ask?? well I didn't think i was gonna have to drive it this winter and after mid october, it was too frickin cold to repaint with regular primer.
I'm not worried though, cuz eventually i'll be sand blasting everything anyway when i start the restore

sorry to babble on

Jason

yellowgmc · 02-25-2003, 10:42 AM

definately minnesota. i went to the car wash with my 150 last week and the sprayer blew a whole bunch of paint off. one trip down the highway and poof instant rust.

jeffbo · 02-25-2003, 11:26 AM

South Dakota is in the rust belt too. Plenty of salt on the roads here.

ckhd · 02-25-2003, 12:16 PM

Arizona uses salt now (has for 3 years now), so we will soon be joining the 'rust belt'.

stllookn · 02-25-2003, 01:54 PM

Darren, There is also a very thin rust belt out here too! Anywhere west of the coast range...LOL! Ever seen the trucks and cars in Westport or along the Oregon coast where you can still drive on the beach? Dang ugly! Also I have been told that Spokane uses salt on the roads too! I have seen some really rust free rigs over there so I am not sure if it is the short season or these are trucks that were only used on the farm and never made it into town during the snowy weather.

BTW...when you are done with the blue beast...I want a sweet deal on your orange truck!

imdarren · 02-25-2003, 09:39 PM

stllookn,
I'm waiting for the economy to pick up a bit before spending much on the blue truck.
You will be the first to know when the Orange GMC goes up for sale. One day I would like to replace it with a 72 3/4 ton 4X4 Cheyenne Super W/ A/C.
Okay.... At least a Cheyenne W/ A/C.

Yah, Ya got to look careful at some of those rigs near the Ocean!

Darren

Dean23 · 02-25-2003, 09:44 PM

up here in Edmonton they use calcium, sand and crushed rock. three things I would rather not have on my car

weasel29gm · 02-25-2003, 10:08 PM

Oh yeah, WEST VIRGINIA for sure, the DOT uses so much we recycle it and use it all summer for road kill!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!

meathead95 · 02-25-2003, 10:12 PM

dont forget illinois!

hobby67stepside · 02-25-2003, 10:27 PM

Add Iowa to that list.

*racedvl* · 02-25-2003, 10:48 PM

Yes, let us not forget IL. . . . .

orange72 · 02-26-2003, 12:03 AM

well im from east texas and i have no idea what salt on the road is but i sure know what it will do to a truck. my truck was a northern truck and when i bought it you could see through the driver side bed.

cableguy0 · 02-26-2003, 02:15 AM

they love the salt here in maryland im so glad my truck has been sleeping in the garage since b4 winter.

02-25-2003, 12:39 AM	#1
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	Tell me where it is . . . . . Could you guys in the mid west explain ecactly what areas are considered part of the "rust belt"? What states etc.? Aso. Who else lives in a state where they use salt on the road in the winter. ie: Utah.... Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

02-25-2003, 12:52 AM	#2
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	You only need to look at the vehicles to see which ones are in the rust belt. Believe me, Minnesota is one of them. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

02-25-2003, 12:57 AM	#3
Chevy Wrench former desert rat Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: salt lake city, utah Home of the 3 M's Mormons, methlabs and minivans Posts: 320	Utard is one of those salty states. I hear Wyoming uses sand. __________________ 94 Chevy Silverado Ext cab 4/6 drop w/ 18's and 2500watt system (work truck). 67 Chevy swb under const. frame off custom, 20's, bagged and a large rat under the hood,and a 1940 Chevy truck under const.

02-25-2003, 06:42 AM	#6
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,845	I always felt my home land (Pennsylvania) rank high on the list of metal eaters. I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed much since I left there yeasr ago. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

02-25-2003, 08:31 AM	#8
bobs409 1969 Custom 30 wrecker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pottsville, Pa Posts: 2,611	Pennsylvainia uses it like there's no tomorrow! Since they started using that liquid salt, everything is white days before a snow storm. After they spray it down, it dries on the road, the traffic gets it airborne in a dusty state so the cars parked in your driveway get covered in salt without even going anywhere! This winter has been nasty too. Everytime the roads get nice, another few inches show up. Last snow storm we got 23 inches! Yikes! __________________ Bob 63 Impala 283/PG/3.36 (under restoration) 66 Impala 327/PG/3.36 66 Chevelle SS 409/M22/3.55 69 Chevelle 307/PG/3.08 (future restoration) 69 C10 short stepside 454/TH350/3.73 69 Custom 30 tow truck 350/4 spd/4.10 (resto done, CRUISIN TIME!) 71 Cheyenne 20 fleetside 350/4 spd/4.10 71 Chevelle 6/PG/3.08 72 Chevelle 454/M21/4.10

02-25-2003, 12:57 AM	#4
supercheyenne Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Newton, KS, U.S.A. Posts: 1,142	Kansas = yes.

02-25-2003, 12:58 AM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Count in Ohio. Safe bet that any state that gets snow on a regular basis will be tossing salt onto the roads. And as we all know, salt and cars don't mix well.

02-25-2003, 07:47 AM	#7
hughnews1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hudson FL gulf coast Posts: 624	New york has a new BIG salt mine ... and on the roads also ... Rust never sleeps

02-25-2003, 09:01 AM	#9
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Michigan uses salt "big time"! Jim

02-25-2003, 09:24 AM	#10
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,284	They use some salt here though not as much as some other areas of the country. Salt is not effective when it gets bitterly cold so they rely more on sand here. I don't let my truck out on the streets when its a warmer winter day and sloppy out. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

02-25-2003, 09:27 AM	#11
rangernsk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warrensburg MO Posts: 143	You can put Missouri on the list too.

02-25-2003, 10:11 AM	#12
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	I agree with bobs409,Pa is getting crazy with the salt.2-3 days before snow they spray that brine on the roads.That's why my trucks hide inside till spring. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

02-25-2003, 10:25 AM	#13
Jason71k10 ready for reassembly Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Barrie ONT, Canada Posts: 413	I'm from toronto Canada(close to it anyway), but i've lived in other places in Ontario though, and just about everywhere uses salt or a combination of salt and sand. Like somebody said before, when you go too far north, it gets so cold that the salt won't even melt the ice! so they have to use sand. But down in southern Ontario, they love their salt.......but I hate it, cuz my truck is my daily driver! This past fall I sanded all the old paint down on the driver side door and around a few chipped spots. After I primered it(unfortunatley with primer/surfacer) but the proimer is quite porous, so i have little tiny rust specks all over my poor door why did I use a surfacer you ask?? well I didn't think i was gonna have to drive it this winter and after mid october, it was too frickin cold to repaint with regular primer. I'm not worried though, cuz eventually i'll be sand blasting everything anyway when i start the restore sorry to babble on Jason

02-25-2003, 10:42 AM	#14
yellowgmc Getting cabin fever?!?!?! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chisholm, mn Posts: 1,679	definately minnesota. i went to the car wash with my 150 last week and the sprayer blew a whole bunch of paint off. one trip down the highway and poof instant rust. __________________ Member of the Discs Up Front Club 1972 GMC 1500 1994 F-150 XL 4x4 Tact is for people not whitty enough to be sarcastic

02-25-2003, 11:26 AM	#15
jeffbo D.U.F. Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Huron/Brookings, SD Posts: 288	South Dakota is in the rust belt too. Plenty of salt on the roads here. __________________ MEMBER OF THE DISCS UP FRONT CLUB '72 C-10 LWB Highlander, A/C, tilt TH350 w/ B&M shift kit, 327LJ bored .040", cast flattops, forged crank, L31 Vortecs, 9.25:1 CR, Comp conical valvesprings, Crane Energizer single pattern 216/.454", Professional Products Power Plus Crosswind intake, Edelbrock #1406 600cfm, HEI, dual exhaust, open 3.08 12bolt '68 C-10 4spd (not running) '79 C-10 LWB Mild 350 '80 Caprice Classic, 2-dr '97 GMC K-1500, SWB, Reg. Cab, Z-71, 5.7, Auto



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02-25-2003, 12:16 PM	#16
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	Arizona uses salt now (has for 3 years now), so we will soon be joining the 'rust belt'. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans?

02-25-2003, 01:54 PM	#17
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Darren, There is also a very thin rust belt out here too! Anywhere west of the coast range...LOL! Ever seen the trucks and cars in Westport or along the Oregon coast where you can still drive on the beach? Dang ugly! Also I have been told that Spokane uses salt on the roads too! I have seen some really rust free rigs over there so I am not sure if it is the short season or these are trucks that were only used on the farm and never made it into town during the snowy weather. BTW...when you are done with the blue beast...I want a sweet deal on your orange truck! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

02-25-2003, 09:39 PM	#18
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	stllookn, I'm waiting for the economy to pick up a bit before spending much on the blue truck. You will be the first to know when the Orange GMC goes up for sale. One day I would like to replace it with a 72 3/4 ton 4X4 Cheyenne Super W/ A/C. Okay.... At least a Cheyenne W/ A/C. Yah, Ya got to look careful at some of those rigs near the Ocean! Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

02-25-2003, 09:44 PM	#19
Dean23 68cst_ss490 Join Date: May 2001 Location: edmonton,canada Posts: 1,363	up here in Edmonton they use calcium, sand and crushed rock. three things I would rather not have on my car __________________ Dean edmonton,canada a winter wonderland 2005 Chevrolet Avalanche LT cold air intake, performance exhaust, Comp cams cam, jba shorty ceramic headers. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3090973

02-25-2003, 10:08 PM	#20
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,093	Oh yeah, WEST VIRGINIA for sure, the DOT uses so much we recycle it and use it all summer for road kill!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

02-25-2003, 10:12 PM	#21
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	dont forget illinois! __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

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02-26-2003, 12:03 AM	#24
orange72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: huntington,texas,united states Posts: 399	well im from east texas and i have no idea what salt on the road is but i sure know what it will do to a truck. my truck was a northern truck and when i bought it you could see through the driver side bed. __________________ 1972 chevy long bed. Currently under construction!! Bagged, 383/700r4.

02-26-2003, 02:15 AM	#25
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