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harlyworkr · 01-05-2009, 09:51 PM

Do I really need to buy them at $55.00 a set? They removed them when the cab was sandblasted. Has anyone else had this issue?

tcb-1 · 01-05-2009, 10:00 PM

yep, my brother had the same issue with them..... they are very expensive for what they are!

you may post over on the wtb forum. you may get lucky if someone has some they don't need.

Tx Firefighter · 01-05-2009, 10:23 PM

Hardware store large head pop rivets plus a Dremel tool and you can make them yourself if you're careful.

Wear gloves though, I gouged the heck out of my hand with the Dremel....I mean you could hurt yourself. Not that I ever did this. That would be wrong.

msgross · 01-05-2009, 10:31 PM

that's why I had them use a heavy cloth tape over mine...

depends on your state, mine doesn't look at the VIN

72armyswbtruck · 01-05-2009, 11:19 PM

Ditto:
It really depends on the state. However, just go now to the DMV/State Troopers and get a certification that they were removed at time of sandblast and put back on. Cab #'s match the frame #, and the title matches, shouldn't be a problem.

1320tech · 01-05-2009, 11:45 PM

would be a problem in ohio have heard horror stories about inspections in the great communist state of Ohio. don't know about kansas

harlyworkr · 01-05-2009, 11:55 PM

We have a Jean-Claude Goddam's here who think they are going to find Hoffa in a glovebox or something. I better be safe. Does anyone have a picture of the mounting points so I can be sure I put them back in the right position?

old Chevy guy · 01-05-2009, 11:59 PM

Funny how much states differ,in R.I. if its over 10 years old they not only don't look they don't care as long as the previous owner paid the sales tax.I registered my truck 10 years ago and not only did they not check any numbers but I registered it as a 72 cause thats what the previous owner wrote on the bill of sale but then I recently figured out it was only a 71 . You would think the computer would have spit that back .

bbarooo · 01-06-2009, 01:28 AM

Where did you find them for $55 ?

**breeh** · 01-06-2009, 02:34 AM

I did a body swap in New Mexico. I put my 2wd body on a 4x4 frame. No big deal in NM. When I moved to Washington and went to tag it they compared the body VIN to the frame VIN. Of course, they didn't match. They immediately removed the body VIN tag and placed a Washington State tag on the vehicle and told me that I could not get a title for 3 years. This was a "cooling off" period. After 3 years I received my title. However, I still had the stupid Washington VIN tag on the cab.

I was told that they only checked this on vehicles coming into Washington from out-of-state.

harlyworkr · 01-06-2009, 08:46 AM

I ordered my rivits through http://www.restorivets.com

Southern C10 · 01-06-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harlyworkr

Does anyone have a picture of the mounting points so i can be sure i put them back in the right position?

x2 I dont even know where my VIN is. Thats probly bad.

my67chevytruck · 01-06-2009, 11:34 AM

all of the ones i have seen are on the drivers side pillar by the door latch area...

rambler · 01-06-2009, 11:40 AM

at one time I think some of our board venders had some...

**LEEVON** · 01-06-2009, 11:51 AM

harleyworkr,

If your vin tag was removed I would spend the $55 just for piece of mind. Here is my experience in Kansas; when I bought my truck it had an Arkansas title and at the time (1994) they were a notorious state for title washing. When I went to title it in Kansas, it was required to have an inspection because of this. A state trooper inspected it and immediately noticed that the vin tag had been taken off and re-riveted. He was ready to impound the truck on the spot but my Dad and I were able to convince him to locate the frame VIN and glove box SPID and match them up. He did this only because I think he realized we were kind of innocent about the whole thing and it was my first vehicle (14 years old).

We figured later that the tag was legitimately (but stupidly) removed for some repairs. Bottom line he could have siezed the truck but we got lucky. I wouldn't want the risk again, which is why I will replace the rivets with rosettes at some point.

69sixpackbee · 01-06-2009, 11:57 AM

I've made my own for two restos I did. No one was the wiser and I had no problems with inspections either. They aren't that hard to make. At 55 bones a pop if you mangle one of them you will still be S.O.L. and have to purchase yet another set. That is just ludicrous in my opinion.
Good luck.

420am · 01-06-2009, 02:12 PM

Yeah.. Wyandotte is a ***** about that stuff. Heard more than a handful of stories of people buying Missouri trucks and never being able to license them in KS due to some BS like those rivets.. or the frame and the cab not having matching VINs.

sinned4me · 01-16-2009, 01:17 AM

I couldn't get a Kansas title for an old Ford I had cause the fenderwell headers blocked some of the numbers on the frame.

**68350** · 01-16-2009, 03:04 AM

Personally, I would purchase the rivets. Yeah, its 55 bucks, but it's what the factory used and no one would ever know if was taken off except for you. It also looks original if you ever sell the truck so someone doesn't think the vin was swapped. just my .02

Wreckless_71 · 01-16-2009, 03:24 AM

Breeh... that scares me. I'm doing a 2wd body swap onto a 4x4 frame in the state of Washington. The frame is a '72 Chevy 4x4, the cab a '71 GMC 2wd and the rest of the body a '71 Chevy 2wd. So do I slap the original '72 Chevy 4x4 VIN plate on the cab so the VIN and frame match..? And another thing, do the DMV's really care what the rivits look like? I mean could I just find something that fits and holds the plate on?

01-05-2009, 09:51 PM	#1
harlyworkr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 212	69 Rosette Vin Rivits Do I really need to buy them at $55.00 a set? They removed them when the cab was sandblasted. Has anyone else had this issue?

01-05-2009, 10:00 PM	#2
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits yep, my brother had the same issue with them..... they are very expensive for what they are! you may post over on the wtb forum. you may get lucky if someone has some they don't need. __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson Last edited by tcb-1; 01-05-2009 at 10:30 PM.

01-05-2009, 10:23 PM	#3
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Hardware store large head pop rivets plus a Dremel tool and you can make them yourself if you're careful. Wear gloves though, I gouged the heck out of my hand with the Dremel....I mean you could hurt yourself. Not that I ever did this. That would be wrong. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-05-2009, 10:31 PM	#4
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits that's why I had them use a heavy cloth tape over mine... depends on your state, mine doesn't look at the VIN __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

01-05-2009, 11:19 PM	#5
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Ditto: It really depends on the state. However, just go now to the DMV/State Troopers and get a certification that they were removed at time of sandblast and put back on. Cab #'s match the frame #, and the title matches, shouldn't be a problem. __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

01-05-2009, 11:45 PM	#6
1320tech Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: newparis ohio Posts: 201	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits would be a problem in ohio have heard horror stories about inspections in the great communist state of Ohio. don't know about kansas

01-05-2009, 11:55 PM	#7
harlyworkr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 212	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits We have a Jean-Claude Goddam's here who think they are going to find Hoffa in a glovebox or something. I better be safe. Does anyone have a picture of the mounting points so I can be sure I put them back in the right position?

01-05-2009, 11:59 PM	#8
old Chevy guy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Foster Rhode Island Posts: 1,176	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Funny how much states differ,in R.I. if its over 10 years old they not only don't look they don't care as long as the previous owner paid the sales tax.I registered my truck 10 years ago and not only did they not check any numbers but I registered it as a 72 cause thats what the previous owner wrote on the bill of sale but then I recently figured out it was only a 71 . You would think the computer would have spit that back .

01-06-2009, 01:28 AM	#9
bbarooo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: So. California Posts: 121	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Where did you find them for $55 ?

01-06-2009, 02:34 AM	#10
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits I did a body swap in New Mexico. I put my 2wd body on a 4x4 frame. No big deal in NM. When I moved to Washington and went to tag it they compared the body VIN to the frame VIN. Of course, they didn't match. They immediately removed the body VIN tag and placed a Washington State tag on the vehicle and told me that I could not get a title for 3 years. This was a "cooling off" period. After 3 years I received my title. However, I still had the stupid Washington VIN tag on the cab. I was told that they only checked this on vehicles coming into Washington from out-of-state. __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"

01-06-2009, 08:46 AM	#11
harlyworkr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 212	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits I ordered my rivits through http://www.restorivets.com

01-06-2009, 11:34 AM	#13
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01-06-2009, 11:40 AM	#14
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01-06-2009, 11:51 AM	#15
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,888	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits harleyworkr, If your vin tag was removed I would spend the $55 just for piece of mind. Here is my experience in Kansas; when I bought my truck it had an Arkansas title and at the time (1994) they were a notorious state for title washing. When I went to title it in Kansas, it was required to have an inspection because of this. A state trooper inspected it and immediately noticed that the vin tag had been taken off and re-riveted. He was ready to impound the truck on the spot but my Dad and I were able to convince him to locate the frame VIN and glove box SPID and match them up. He did this only because I think he realized we were kind of innocent about the whole thing and it was my first vehicle (14 years old). We figured later that the tag was legitimately (but stupidly) removed for some repairs. Bottom line he could have siezed the truck but we got lucky. I wouldn't want the risk again, which is why I will replace the rivets with rosettes at some point. __________________ '20 Silverado Trail Boss ~ '17 Tahoe ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~ '55 Pontiac Safari ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids

01-06-2009, 11:57 AM	#16
69sixpackbee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sabinal, Texas Posts: 1,706	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits I've made my own for two restos I did. No one was the wiser and I had no problems with inspections either. They aren't that hard to make. At 55 bones a pop if you mangle one of them you will still be S.O.L. and have to purchase yet another set. That is just ludicrous in my opinion. Good luck.



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01-06-2009, 02:12 PM	#17
420am Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 357	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Yeah.. Wyandotte is a ***** about that stuff. Heard more than a handful of stories of people buying Missouri trucks and never being able to license them in KS due to some BS like those rivets.. or the frame and the cab not having matching VINs. __________________ 1972 Long Bed Cheyenne Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=285282 Waste my bandwidth and listen to some great tunes >> http://www.radioxenu.com (Live Shows with yours truly every Friday)

01-16-2009, 01:17 AM	#18
sinned4me Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: topeka, ks Posts: 49	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits I couldn't get a Kansas title for an old Ford I had cause the fenderwell headers blocked some of the numbers on the frame.

01-16-2009, 03:04 AM	#19
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Personally, I would purchase the rivets. Yeah, its 55 bucks, but it's what the factory used and no one would ever know if was taken off except for you. It also looks original if you ever sell the truck so someone doesn't think the vin was swapped. just my .02 __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

01-16-2009, 03:24 AM	#20
Wreckless_71 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kelso, WA Posts: 363	Re: 69 Rosette Vin Rivits Breeh... that scares me. I'm doing a 2wd body swap onto a 4x4 frame in the state of Washington. The frame is a '72 Chevy 4x4, the cab a '71 GMC 2wd and the rest of the body a '71 Chevy 2wd. So do I slap the original '72 Chevy 4x4 VIN plate on the cab so the VIN and frame match..? And another thing, do the DMV's really care what the rivits look like? I mean could I just find something that fits and holds the plate on? __________________ 1972 K10 4" lift, 35’s, 383 stroker, 700r4, current project. 1971 C10 3"/5" static drop, 355/350. "La Bamba.” The current daily driver.

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