For those waiting on Camaro caliper brackets....

[Sicmaro]

I haven't read the whole thread..........


Will this brackets work with the LS1 camaro rear bpr calipers?? Ive got a set but the backing plates are the wrong pattern for the truck rear end.

[chevy_mike]

Originally Posted by coast2coast

OK, I feel like a noob asking this question, but can someone tell me what PBR calipers are? Last I knew PBR was Pabst Blue Ribbon

PBR is the manufacturer. They are made in Australia and are very good calipers at reasonable costs. Found on the rear of Camaro/Firebirds since I believe '89 (prior had the crappy style similar to the Caddy). I believe a lot of people call them LS1 style, since the LS1 ('98+) came standard with them. They were also used on the Corvettes before the Camaros.

Here is a picture of them


They ride in their own mounting cage, which can be easily adapted to many setups and they have a e-brake setup that actually works very well and stays adjusted. They are also aluminum for better heat disapation and less weight.

[chevy_mike]

Originally Posted by Sicmaro

I haven't read the whole thread..........


Will this brackets work with the LS1 camaro rear bpr calipers?? Ive got a set but the backing plates are the wrong pattern for the truck rear end.

You would use the mounting cage and calipers. The bracket that attaches to the axle is what Glock was making. They were setup to fix the housing mouting pattern and to offset the cage/calipers in the right location when using the Impala rotors. Your backing plates, if you made them to fit the axle housing, would place the caliper in the wrong location since the depth of the Impala rotors is deeper then the Camaros.

[coast2coast]

Ahh, now I understand. Thanks chevy_mike.

[Sicmaro]

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

You would use the mounting cage and calipers. The bracket that attaches to the axle is what Glock was making. They were setup to fix the housing mouting pattern and to offset the cage/calipers in the right location when using the Impala rotors. Your backing plates, if you made them to fit the axle housing, would place the caliper in the wrong location since the depth of the Impala rotors is deeper then the Camaros.

Copy that, yeah i figured that. I used them on my 72 camaro rear and had to space the backing plate out to line up right. so yes i can use his brackets and my ls1 calipers with impala rotors and be good to go??? I want a set of the brackets then!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a pic of my ls1 camaro rear brakes on my 72 camaro. these are the same calipers i would like to use with the brackets being sold here............

[chevy_mike]

Originally Posted by Sicmaro

Copy that, yeah i figured that. I used them on my 72 camaro rear and had to space the backing plate out to line up right. so yes i can use his brackets and my ls1 calipers with impala rotors and be good to go??? I want a set of the brackets then!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a pic of my ls1 camaro rear brakes on my 72 camaro. these are the same calipers i would like to use with the brackets being sold here............

Now that I see your pic, I don't think this caliper setup will work with Glock's brackets. I have been away from Camaros for a number of years and now seeing yours, the LS1 style has the internal e-brake drum, not the ratchet piston style, like the pre-LS1 calipers. The ones I show in my picture is the style that Glock's brackets are made for. You don't use the "drum e-brake" area of the Impala rotors.

You might be able to use your style but you would not have any e-brake. That assumes the offset of the caliper/mounting cage and the cage mounting bolt spacing is the same. I don't know that since I have not had the LS1 rear brakes in my hands before, only the fronts.

[Shon]

FYI, the pic below is of an LT1 brake caliper and not an LS1.

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

PBR is the manufacturer. They are made in Australia and are very good calipers at reasonable costs. Found on the rear of Camaro/Firebirds since I believe '89 (prior had the crappy style similar to the Caddy). I believe a lot of people call them LS1 style, since the LS1 ('98+) came standard with them. They were also used on the Corvettes before the Camaros.

Here is a picture of them


They ride in their own mounting cage, which can be easily adapted to many setups and they have a e-brake setup that actually works very well and stays adjusted. They are also aluminum for better heat disapation and less weight.

[chevy_mike]

Originally Posted by Shon

FYI, the pic below is of an LT1 brake caliper and not an LS1.

Thanks for the clarification. I really don't use the LT1/LS1 naming as my '92 (and '89+) Camaro used the same setup. This was pre LT1. It will be good info for others.

[Shon]

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

Thanks for the clarification. I really don't use the LT1/LS1 naming as my '92 (and '89+) Camaro used the same setup. This was pre LT1. It will be good info for others.

I pretty much live/breathe the 4th gen F-body and a few other GM platforms....

This is a stock LT1 with bolt ons and PCM tuning; was the quickets bolt on LT1 in the country till last year....11.80 @113+.....


Now it sports a bolt on LS1 that went 11.59 in November.

[nac593]

In post #221, chevy-mike says the cadilac calipers suck. But why? what are the bad things about them?

[lks dcvn]

bump again -

Anybody know what Glock has been up to or does somebody have a set that we could get dimensions from so somebody could build them?

Thanks!

[38chevyhotrod]

Originally Posted by babyblueoval

I've got a set of Coy's C5's in 5x4.75 to match the C4 front suspension. I want to be able to rotate them so I've gotta figure out how to get the rear to the same pattern.

Can't you just use a set of rear discs from a z28 camaro from 87 or so? They are the 5 on 4.75.
I just scored a second hand set from ebay. Rotors and calipers and cables and brackets.
Those are 5 on 4.75, i have to re drill them to 5 on 5 and probably have to adjust the brackets.
Hope it works.... the only question i have is, will the rotor fit over the axle flange?????

[chevy_mike]

Originally Posted by nac593

In post #221, chevy-mike says the cadilac calipers suck. But why? what are the bad things about them?

The two biggest problems with them is, the e-brake adjusters don't work very well and they will allow too much clearance between the pads and the rotors, which causes more pedal movement and don't apply as much brake pressure because the fronts lock up way before the rears. Second issue is the way they mount, they are more likely to bind and hang up and not work smoothly, especially as they get some miles on them.

It's an outdated design, that didn't work great when new. Add the fact they are cast iron, they add more unsprung weight which will effect how well the suspension works. For myself personally, I would rather have the stock drums then the Cadilac caliper setup.

Heck, I had a friend who did not ask me about brakes before he bought them for his Chevelle. He installed them, never got them to work right, even without driving on them, pulled them off and bought Baer brakes and could not be happier. It was a costly mistake for him.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by lks dcvn

bump again -

Anybody know what Glock has been up to or does somebody have a set that we could get dimensions from so somebody could build them?

Thanks!

I sent him a PM last week and haven't heard back from him. Has anyone heard from him lately? IIRC his wife was having some medical issues....I hope all is well.

[babyblueoval]

Originally Posted by 38chevyhotrod

Can't you just use a set of rear discs from a z28 camaro from 87 or so? They are the 5 on 4.75.
I just scored a second hand set from ebay. Rotors and calipers and cables and brackets.
Those are 5 on 4.75, i have to re drill them to 5 on 5 and probably have to adjust the brackets.
Hope it works.... the only question i have is, will the rotor fit over the axle flange?????

I was told it wouldn't work because the axle flanges are different sizes (bigger on the truck 12 bolt) and the offset of the rotors is too close to the wheels? I've got a set of the same Z28 calipers, rotors and brackets, plus a set of Glocks brackets for the Impala rotors but I'm not far enough along to test anything yet. I do know the rotor hats on the Impala's are much deeper than the Camaro's.

[Super73]

I am making a set for my truck right now. Depending on how they come out, I will be paying the sponsorship fee and selling them Along with some other goodies. I had a set of LS1 calipers laying around, so that is what I am basing the backing plate on. My only concern is using them with a 15" wheel. I know when I had my LS1 Camaro, you would have to grind the caliper a little to fit a draglite. But I think it is more the face due to the off set of the wheel and the shape of the inside has less clearence.

I may also be posting up some other thngs like lower control arm relocation brackets or other things that I have made for these trucks. Right now with out a job, I have lots of time..

[chevydog66]

I would like to see the matching Camaro calipers that we a installing on the rear to match the front. Now I have Camaro calipers on the rear and stock calipers on the front. To me it doesn't match.

[babyblueoval]

Well I will be running C4 calipers on the front so the rears match perfectly.
But I see your point. If I later to switch to C5 I'll have the same mis match situation.

Originally Posted by chevydog66

I would like to see the matching Camaro calipers that we a installing on the rear to match the front. Now I have Camaro calipers on the rear and stock calipers on the front. To me it doesn't match.

[CornDwg01]

BUMP!
Has anyone heard from Glock lately?

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by CornDwg01

BUMP!
Has anyone heard from Glock lately?

He hasn't been on the board for a little over a month now. I'm trying to find out what he intends to do with these brackets. If he doesn't want to make them anymore, I will get some going. I just don't want to take anything away from him since he designed the original ones.

[glock35ipsc]

Hey guys! Sorry for my long absence from the board. Yes, we were going through some medical issues with my wife. I think we finally have things under control, and everything is looking up.

At any rate, I do plan on running another batch of these, and I might even be able to start on them as early as next week. I need to go back through this thread and the other one and figure out how many peeps are interested so I can get a final number to make.

I'll try to get an update to everyone next week. Again, I am very sorry for not getting back to people. I see my PM box has a lot of messages in it, and I feel bad for not getting them. That's not like me to do that, but I haven't been logging on to see them.

[bigarmzz]

i read through most of this post, but may have missed something

will these work on the 10 bolt 81-87's as well? sorry if i missed that, also didnt see price

Originally Posted by glock35ipsc

Hey guys! Sorry for my long absence from the board. Yes, we were going through some medical issues with my wife. I think we finally have things under control, and everything is looking up.

At any rate, I do plan on running another batch of these, and I might even be able to start on them as early as next week. I need to go back through this thread and the other one and figure out how many peeps are interested so I can get a final number to make.

I'll try to get an update to everyone next week. Again, I am very sorry for not getting back to people. I see my PM box has a lot of messages in it, and I feel bad for not getting them. That's not like me to do that, but I haven't been logging on to see them.

[6772owner]

Hey its ok, hope your wife is doing better, wish you two the best. Just let us know when you get up and running again.

[glock35ipsc]

Originally Posted by bigarmzz

i read through most of this post, but may have missed something

will these work on the 10 bolt 81-87's as well? sorry if i missed that, also didnt see price

Yes.

The price should be the same, $115 shipped. I will probably offer lower pricing on kits minus nuts & bolts if folks want to do that.

And for those that might ask , I will be upgrading to vendor status soon.

[CornDwg01]

Thanks Glock. Family definately has to come first. Glad to hear all is well, and glad to hear your going to have some more brackets made up!