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Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I need a full wiring harness kit, I am not sure which to go with? my truck has a few electrical options - I did add an electric fuel pump, HEI, stronger headlights, electric cooling fans, and an air compressor. so I do need a few accessories.
any recommendations would make my life a lot easier? I don't mind spending a little extra to get a good product.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
hmm, just looked up AAW.. they look pretty decent,.. or at least self proclaim... anyone have experience with them?
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343141 I have Painless system that I haven't installed so I can't comment. Last edited by chevychase; 05-25-2009 at 02:12 PM. |
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
yea, I seen that too in the search, but that guy sells those kits, so it's a little biased...
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
There is a large thread on another car board frequented by pro car builders and AAW comes out on top with all of them. Sounds like their instruction and quality are hard to beat.
I think the harness they make for our trucks sounds a little better than the other guys offer. Musclerodz, the rep for AAW has a very good rep on this board. I dont think Josh would let him be a board vendor if the stuff he sold was crap and I dont think Musclerodz would even consider selling something that was subpar. I was going to go with Painless until I checked the other wiring kits available. Painless is good and has a good rep, but Ill be buying one of the AAW kits for my panel next week.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
Seems a lotta people go with an aftermarket harness thinking it'll be easy, or not as hard as a stock harness, but then they are always the ones asking a million questions and never getting the answers they are looking for.
If you know basic electronics, then the aftermarket ones may be better. If you are more of a novice, then you might be better doing a one for one swap with new factory stuff, and then add a couple new sub systems for your added items. Personally, I would stick with stock stuff myself. It is so easy to add stuff that I have never seen any reason to go with aftermarket wires. Nine times out of ten, there is no reason to even replace whats there. |
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I've never seen LMC make anything of their own. It looks a lot like Painless that they sell to me.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
well I figure since I need to upgrade the alt. wiring, the headlights, dizzy, and plus my fuse block is broken off the firewall - I figure I am better off replacing the works.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
When the AAW set came out, they posted a nice video on MySpace I think. It may be on YouTube as well. It was several minutes long. I am not a "MySpace person" so I can't tell you how to find it.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I used M&H wire fabricators on my 67 Chevelle. They were great, but AAW is just as good. Both of these companies will modify an OE harness to accept HEI, and a new style alternator. Like Longhorn man said I am a fan of an OE wiring harness. The biggest reason is that IF a problem arises in the future, you can look at a factory wiring diagram and get help. My next big project, like my Chevelle will get new wiring from one of these two companies.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
My truck has "M & H" and it looks like OEM, fit like it,
had all of the same connectors, & same wire colors.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
And usually at a higher price with shipping than the other guys!
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
We rewired my complete truck and used brand new factory style harness and it took five days to complete the whole truck as I did not want to see one single wire so my assistant extended the harnesses.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
If you are restoring your truck factory stock, I think AAW is the way to go. High quality, the right connectors and color codes. My only advice is to be sure to check the new harness against the original or a factory wiring diagram. Once in a great while they will mix wires up in the connectors, and it is much easier to fix that problem before the harness is in the truck! Painless is probably best if you are going to add a lot of custom features like power windows or non-factory A/C. Painless is high quality too, and it is easy to add circuts.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
It sounds like you might as well go with an aftermarket style with all of the add-ons with your truck. It will give you the availibility to add relays for your headlights, fuel pump, and fan. If you were to use a reproduction you would just have to cut a bunch of it up to do your upgrades.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I used the painless kit and it was a piece of cake to install. the fuse panel fits in the stock location and all wires are factory color with numbers every foot or so and a book that tells what each number goes to It also separates the circuits as to engine compartment cab and tail lights. It had all the connectors I needed except the harness for the stock AC
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
Hey smoknbarrels, I have my brand new Painless harness for sale in the classifieds section if you decide to go for the Painless harness. Here is the link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=341883
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
link doesn't work
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I found a 23 circut harness at speedway motors...thats the route im going....ill post link later
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
Ive put in 2 ron francis systems, Both good, but their tech support was great. Almost everynight I would email a question to them, and when I got home from work the next day their was always a good answer. Dont think they ever missed one.
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
www.wiringharness.com
aka M&H Fabricators. Got mine from GMC Paul at a better price than I could have gotten from M&H (at the time). But, I have ordered directly and their harnesses are great!
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Re: Painless wiring or LMC Truck wiring...which is better?
I would suggest M&H if you have the cash, I am one who worries more about breakdowns than most, I would not put a 25.00 OEM harness in a truck I just put 20,000 in elsewhere, Just my opinion. I put M&H in my Chevelles, looks almost stock, and you can special order the options you want, pricey, but very nice. I saw probably 10 Painless sets go into my cousins cars, they did not have factory connectors as I recall, everything was spliced together? don't know if that is different on these trucks though
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