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Sillyoldman · 05-30-2009, 05:29 PM

I pushed her out of the shop over a year a ago to make room for a 67 skylark 455 project. Ugly Betsy ('63 BW) was at first a project that was going at a enthusiastic pace. I got in pretty deep with body issues and my interest declined. I went into this project focused on the engine, a 327. Not to say that I have not done a ton of body work & lowering. I spent a bunch of money on the heads. And tossed in a mighty cam. Today I peeled off the rotting tarp to reveal what I had expected. What I did not expect was the new motor to look so bad. The aluminum is oxidized as is the new intake. The paint has started to peel in placed from the block. I threw in a bunch of body bolts today and assembled the hood latch assembly. Chased down a few parts today. Hope to get her running tomorrow.

the lights · 05-30-2009, 06:09 PM

it still looks good to me. the rust and body work issues on these trucks can make you loose interest, but in the end it is all worth it.

joe231 · 05-30-2009, 09:34 PM

looks cool

jonzcustomshop · 05-31-2009, 06:49 AM

looks nice I would like to see a pic of the wheels close up if you get a chance.. are they the stock 15's?

Sillyoldman · 06-01-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

looks nice I would like to see a pic of the wheels close up if you get a chance.. are they the stock 15's?

Stock wheels. Trust me you DO NOT want a close up. I rattle canned them and the beauty rings are in very poor shape. I have some old slots that I'm putting on her.

**Captainfab** · 06-01-2009, 12:33 AM

I was wondering what had become of your '63.......that engine looks great!

So did you get it running today?

Sillyoldman · 06-01-2009, 12:37 AM

Yep it fired up. Simple 180 degree mistake with the rotor drop (oops). It fired on one key turn no goofing around with timing or carb and with some feathering of the pedal it ran nice at its sweet spot. Nothing substantial leaked. I do have to drop the oil pan, I attempted to change out the timing cover without dropping the pan. It was a gamble so I was not surprised when it leaked. In the video it is running without any adjustments after it fired. I was real excited, but contained myself to a reserved smile as so not to look gay jumping up and down and giggling. I spent the day with another member Nonhog (guy in truck vid) and BIL. Special thanks to him.

YouTube - uglybetsy 011

**Captainfab** · 06-01-2009, 01:12 AM

Cool

Sounds good with open headers.

I like how that upper radiator hose looks and I see the tag is still on it. Could I possibly get the number off of it

DaddyMack · 06-01-2009, 01:16 AM

Sounds Great!! Get on it...lol

Sillyoldman · 06-01-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Cool

Sounds good with open headers.

I like how that upper radiator hose looks and I see the tag is still on it. Could I possibly get the number off of it

Well it's almost 2300 and I should be going to bed, but I spose I'll do it! You know I dont want to pop that hood again today!

Brand Is Carquest. Part#20607. SKU 0 72053 32546 1

protrash64 · 06-01-2009, 10:57 AM

Sweet!!!!!!! Sounds really good.

TimE · 06-01-2009, 11:33 AM

Nice!

Sillyoldman · 06-01-2009, 06:50 PM

Thanks all. I'm pretty excited about it. I'm tossing around welding up some pipe for it. I have two new mufflers and pipe I removed from my 67 skylark. It has some bends I could cut out and use. Does anyone know if I can drop the oil pan with everything in tact, or or I need to pull motor mounts and lift it? I'm starting to wish I pulled the motor originally and while I had the front clip off.

oldblu65 · 06-01-2009, 09:53 PM

Ugly Betsy is what you would call a " Diamond in the rough " ! She just needs a little polishing up to be " Beautiful Betsy " ! Do you think all those " beautiful women " , in Hollywood , look that great when they get out of bed ? Of course not ! So all you have to do is shower Betsy with love and you'll reap the benefits tenfold ! In ten years Betsy will still be beautiful , you can't say that about the " Hollywood girls " !

**Captainfab** · 06-02-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sillyoldman

Well it's almost 2300 and I should be going to bed, but I spose I'll do it! You know I dont want to pop that hood again today!

Brand Is Carquest. Part#20607. SKU 0 72053 32546 1

Thanks much for the number....'preciate it

You really didn't have to do it right then....

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Originally Posted by Sillyoldman

Thanks all. I'm pretty excited about it. I'm tossing around welding up some pipe for it. I have two new mufflers and pipe I removed from my 67 skylark. It has some bends I could cut out and use. Does anyone know if I can drop the oil pan with everything in tact, or or I need to pull motor mounts and lift it? I'm starting to wish I pulled the motor originally and while I had the front clip off.

If I remember correctly you should be able to remove the pan if the crank is positioned with the front throw up above center.....it's been a long time since I've done it.

Sillyoldman · 06-02-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Thanks much for the number....'preciate it

You really didn't have to do it right then....

Just kidding. I was looking for a reason to stare under the hood a little longer

If I remember correctly you should be able to remove the pan if the crank is positioned with the front throw up above center.....it's been a long time since I've done it.

Good tip. I will try that first. Ssounds good. RP's for you. Thanks

05-30-2009, 05:29 PM	#1
Sillyoldman #16876 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 12,266	Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 I pushed her out of the shop over a year a ago to make room for a 67 skylark 455 project. Ugly Betsy ('63 BW) was at first a project that was going at a enthusiastic pace. I got in pretty deep with body issues and my interest declined. I went into this project focused on the engine, a 327. Not to say that I have not done a ton of body work & lowering. I spent a bunch of money on the heads. And tossed in a mighty cam. Today I peeled off the rotting tarp to reveal what I had expected. What I did not expect was the new motor to look so bad. The aluminum is oxidized as is the new intake. The paint has started to peel in placed from the block. I threw in a bunch of body bolts today and assembled the hood latch assembly. Chased down a few parts today. Hope to get her running tomorrow. Attached Images __________________ Posted via Stationary Device '71 Custom Deluxe C-20 402. '67 Buick Special 455. '49 Plymouth Special Deluxe. *"I love that old car smell"* *Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.*

05-30-2009, 09:34 PM	#3
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 looks cool __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

05-31-2009, 06:49 AM	#4
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 looks nice I would like to see a pic of the wheels close up if you get a chance.. are they the stock 15's?

06-01-2009, 12:33 AM	#6
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06-01-2009, 01:12 AM	#8
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 Cool Sounds good with open headers. I like how that upper radiator hose looks and I see the tag is still on it. Could I possibly get the number off of it __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

05-30-2009, 06:09 PM	#2
the lights Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: turlock CA Posts: 98	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 it still looks good to me. the rust and body work issues on these trucks can make you loose interest, but in the end it is all worth it.

06-01-2009, 01:16 AM	#9
DaddyMack Wide Eyed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 261	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 Sounds Great!! Get on it...lol __________________ 1962 Chevy P/U SB Fleetside 350/350 2.5/5 static drop My Build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=294723 Final (as final can be ) Pics: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=393441

06-01-2009, 10:57 AM	#11
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06-01-2009, 11:33 AM	#12
TimE Hey Y'all!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Minette, Alabama Posts: 1,755	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 Nice! __________________ Just hopin' I live long enough to finish something!!!

06-01-2009, 06:50 PM	#13
Sillyoldman #16876 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 12,266	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 Thanks all. I'm pretty excited about it. I'm tossing around welding up some pipe for it. I have two new mufflers and pipe I removed from my 67 skylark. It has some bends I could cut out and use. Does anyone know if I can drop the oil pan with everything in tact, or or I need to pull motor mounts and lift it? I'm starting to wish I pulled the motor originally and while I had the front clip off. __________________ Posted via Stationary Device '71 Custom Deluxe C-20 402. '67 Buick Special 455. '49 Plymouth Special Deluxe. *"I love that old car smell"* *Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.*

06-01-2009, 09:53 PM	#14
oldblu65 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: " The Scenic City " Posts: 189	Re: Ugly betsy my forgotten '63 Ugly Betsy is what you would call a " Diamond in the rough " ! She just needs a little polishing up to be " Beautiful Betsy " ! Do you think all those " beautiful women " , in Hollywood , look that great when they get out of bed ? Of course not ! So all you have to do is shower Betsy with love and you'll reap the benefits tenfold ! In ten years Betsy will still be beautiful , you can't say that about the " Hollywood girls " !



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