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09-13-2009, 03:45 PM | #1 |
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SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
this is one of the questions i cant find an answer to. it seems like anywhere i search i find that they all have problems on different applications. does anyone have any personal experience with any of these? if so, what kind of vehicle are they on? what are the differences, pros and cons, etc.? any help is greatly appreciated...
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09-13-2009, 04:34 PM | #2 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
I'm Interested as well.
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
My cousin had Baer on the front of his 67 Camaro and loves them, no issues. Many OEM super cars use Brembo, must be pretty good, too. I always thought Wilwood was for racing only. No experience with SSBC other than I know they have been around a long time and have a good reputation, especially amongst the Vette guys. For street use, I would stick to OEM GM stuff.
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09-13-2009, 07:33 PM | #4 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
I have a customer that has a custom 57 Chevy convertible, LS2 supercharged6 speed auto trans etc.This car is way over the top!! The chassis is an Art Morrision frame, with wilwood four wheel disc brakes. Crossdrilled rotors and 4 piston calipers, stainless braided flex lines etc. I like the pedal feel. this is a heavy car and stops well. The car has about 3500 miles on it now, and I have noticed a noise/vibration when the brakes are applied. I have another customer with a 69 Olds, and he has the same issue with the crossdrilled rotors. There are a few Jeep products that I see with crossdrilled rotors, and customers all complain of this.
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09-13-2009, 11:06 PM | #5 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
we put cross drilled rotors on my dads benz and there is a slight humming noise when stopping but its not bad
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09-14-2009, 02:07 PM | #7 |
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IMO, rotor style is not as critical as pad friction compound. You need to match the compound to the style of driving. Around town requires good cold stopping ability, use good oem pads. Racing requires awesome hot stopping ability, go with race pads like metallics and ceramics. The race pads do eat up rotors faster though. I have factory single piston discs on my 67 Camaro and they are great for the street. Not for racing though.
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09-14-2009, 05:36 PM | #8 |
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I have a couple of AMG mercedes that I see on occasion, and they have crossdrilled rotors on them. No noise or vibration what so ever. I would think they should not when the rotors are $650.00 each, and cannot be resurfaced!! We did a brake job on a clk55 amg parts and labor for the front was $2000. After the car left we tried to turn one of the rotors just for kicks. The metal is so soft that you could not get a clean smooth surface
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10-22-2009, 04:45 AM | #9 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
Krzy I think you shouldn't worry about the brakes right now and buy your drop member already lol.
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10-22-2009, 06:18 AM | #10 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
i`ve only used Wilwoods on bikes and a drag truck.Wilwood makes seriously effective brakes.That`s all I can say.that said,I`m pretty comortable with the factory brakes.I imagine just adding OEM-spec rear discs would be a big plus.
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10-22-2009, 07:46 AM | #11 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
My front door neighbor put big brembo on his 911 twin turbo and his cayenne both vehicles stop on a dime what I dont like is how I can hear him everytime he comes home with all the noise they make specially the 911's brakes.
My best friend has a 72 camaro with wilwood all the way around and it also stops on a dime and it does not make any noises at all. When I do my four wheel brakes I will go with wilwood but I am putting my own kit together like my friend did on his camaro....
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10-22-2009, 08:12 AM | #12 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
Noise all depends on the compound of the pad... The track cars we build run a special compound for racing and I gotta tell you make a HELL of a lot of noise!!! Cross drilled rotors work best with beveled pads to eliminate noise..
At the hot rod shop we have run both Wilwood and Baer.. They both make a great product and I think it comes down to cost and who offers exactly what you want... Not a truck but... I just delivered this Ferrari to one of my customers... You wanna talk about BIG brakes! The wheel is 19".. Rotors are carbon-ceramic... This thing stops on a dime and leaves change!!!
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
why dont you look into mcgaughy's or something...they offer 13'' big brake kits and for the most part use GM parts. I believe the calipers are oem parts from newer cars, as well as the rotors too. The spindles are mcgaughy's made and can come in 2.5'' drop. I am thinking about these when i get to that part of my truck.....just my little opinion....they may not say BAER or WILWOOD on the caliper but if they stop great and look good for a fraction of the price i would try em out...check them out http://www.mcgaughys.com/bigbrake.html .....i believe a baer kit is like 2 3 grand....and this mcgaughys kit you can get complete spindle caliper rotor bearing etc for like 700 or 800
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My attitude on brakes is use what is safe and oem is safe and relatively cheap. Save your money for go fast parts or paint and rims. Don't dump tons of money on fancy brakes. They don't make you go fast, are not that visible and won't get you much street cred IMO. I don't see the point in having calipers with fancy brand names on them when the oem stuff works just fine. Most guys don't drool over brakes at the street races or even car shows. It's like bragging about your truck's mileage. I don't drive old cars and trucks because they have great brakes and get awesome mileage. As long as the vehicle can stop safely, you're good to go.
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10-22-2009, 09:38 PM | #17 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
True dat! I have spent lots of money on aftermarket brakes and never felt it was a waste at all.
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
One nice thing about Brembo's is that lot of places carry parts for them. They've served well as OEM brakes on the cars I've had. But having said that, I'm not sure I'll go with them on my project. I may go the CPP 13" route. Haven't decided yet.
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10-23-2009, 01:31 AM | #20 |
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Re: SSBC vs WILWOOD vs BAER vs BREMBO
I just put some brembo blanks (oem replacements) and bendix brake pads on my daily driver and I love them.
I got them from www.autopartswarehouse.com They have live help on the website, you can click on it and chat with a representative from the company and they will help you find the right part for your truck. They also price match and I think that shipping is free with purchases over $50.
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That was then, this is now. Look at what GM is putting on their fastest cars these days. With that mentaility, do you feel that 4 wheel manual drum brakes are adequate too? I mean it was good enough for GM.....
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If I remember right, Wilwoods were stock on both Jaguars and some Studebakers in the 60's.
Back then, "state-of-the-art" discs were still solid rotors, not ventilated much less cross-drilled. You still got parking brakes on the rears (stock on Jags, optional on Avantis) though. Come to think of it, they were on some Larks, Hawks (& GTs) and Daytonas as well. Some of the calipers Wilwood still sells are the same design, which may be the ones that seem more street-friendly on that Camaro.
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These look good, I don't care who you are...
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yes whatever brand that is....loooks gooood and them polished calipers are woah....honestly when i am at car shows brakes is a big thing i look at all the time
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