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Grandpa in the rustmobile...
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good and bad news
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having trouble about 2 times per day with my 3 spd on the column it hangs up in 1st gear and the shifter looks to be at a 1 O clock angle..the arm in the middle of the 2 linkages that go to the tranny Im tired of 3 spd...but its all ive got 1-fix 3 spd and cripple on (carry 9/16 wrench keep fixing it like iam) 2-floor shifter from autozone ($100) 3-th350 I have in the barn..(whats involved in putting this in my truck im INTERESTED IN THIS SWAP) GOOD NEWS found an old man down the road from me with at least 4 67-72's in his yard 1 67swb step sweet patina 3 others i couldnt tell what they were, he wasnt home .
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Re: good and bad news
I have a floor shifter that is in my 68 that is hooked up to a 350 t.h. I don't know if you could do something to it to make it work. Might be worth a shot though. It does'nt have any brand name on it and it was in the truck when I bought it. Let me know. All I would want is you pay shipping.
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Re: good and bad news
My personal opinion is that you should just properly fix the 3 on the tree so it works and be done with it. Find a local shop that knows what they're talking about and have them work on the linkage. I've dealt with several linkage issues that I couldn't solve myself. A good mechanic that is familiar with them should be able to take care of you without costing an arm and a leg.
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Re: good and bad news
Maybe, If the fella down the road has a 3 on the tree, and you went to him, and bought another column, and then found someone that could make one good column out of two. I think that would be the least expensive way to be dependable again.
If you want to go automatic, Go see the guy, and try and buy a column, all of the shift linkage, and a transmission and driveshaft. |
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Re: good and bad news
Or you could just search member "krue's" index in the FAQ's and find the post on adjusting the linkage.Also replace the bushings.
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Re: good and bad news
Wow... you really don't want that 3 on the tree...
Why is everybody that doesn't want their 3 on the trees so far away from me?
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Re: good and bad news
If you will invest 20 bucks in new bushings and linkage clips your problem will go away. No sense in spending bigger money for a floor shifter and then cutting a hole in your floorboard.
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Easy swap i did it. Had three on tree with 6 cylinder. You need a auto column to replace your 3 on tree one and a cross member. Those are the main 2 items...........
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Re: good and bad news
good luck
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Re: good and bad news
3 on tree is a easy fix also.
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Re: good and bad news
I wanna make it go away lol!
well if the older gentleman sells me something, i'll just probably buy a 71-72 rob the rearend and cab and hopefully it'll be auto. hes got 2 67 swb's i REALLY want but dont need lol im thinkin auto and a shift kit..how much would it cost me to rebuild a auto tranny...im unaware of the condition of the tranny ive already got
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Re: good and bad news
Just rebuild the three on the tree. They are uncommon AND cool.
Whenever you start changing things it will cost two to three times as much as you have planned. Bushings and clips are cheap, swaps are not.
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Grandpa in the rustmobile...
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Were can I get the stuff to rebuild it with? Im looking at 20$ for stuff to rebuild it with?
nicolas72gmc, is that a floorshift for an 350th or 3sp man. ? Im 17 and really need a little truck for DD, gas is killing me. Found a 94 s10 150k for 1500. Needs tires and has a few new parts...body fairly straight, paints a lil rough some places. Watchall think of these trucks. thanks
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![]() $1500 plus insurance, licensing and upkeep will pay for a LOT of gas. Been there, done that. Didn't save any money in the process. But I did manage to spend a lot of extra money on a second car that would have been better spent on my original one.
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Re: good and bad news
Well I drive it everyday25 miles round trip daily, im putting 40$ a week, plus my time and parts and a few choice words. Right now the 3spds ticking me off and I was looking for a cheap lil truck.
Wont know anything till i sell my ATV, (i buy fix up/sell fourwheelers in my spare time) Hopefully, old man will sell me a truck or 2 and that'll keep me busy for a few weeks 71chevy4x4, was that a good thing or bad thing lol^^^^^have you thought/doen stupid things also lol?
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Re: good and bad news
Man trust me. When the truck is as slow as ours are, you'll be missing the manual. It can be BORING. Nice in traffic (tons around here) though. If you have to change anything, just get a floor shifter. That should make for a more sporty and fun experience
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Re: good and bad news
OldBlue, it is hooked up to a 350 auto right now.
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Re: good and bad news
I hate when my linkage locks up.
Where do you buy these kits? Keep the three speed Doesn't a auto trans require a high hump floor?
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Re: good and bad news
None of mine have a high hump floor. I think that has to do with the big blocks.
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Re: good and bad news
High humps are on 4WD's, big blocks and small blocks with manual floor shift.
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Re: good and bad news
You can buy all of the linkage bits to fix your 3 speed from Classic Parts. Great folks to deal with.
The S10---you're spending 40 a week on gas. If it gets twice your current mileage, you're going to save 20 bucks a week on gas. Now think of the 1500 price, insurance, registration and upkeep---it's going to take a long, long time at 20 a week to offset the S10 expenses. Years...
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Re: good and bad news
My 4x4 WAS a 3-on-the-tree when I got it. Back then I was heavily in to bass fishing tournaments. That stupid shifter ALWAYS locked up at the boat ramp. Not at some wierd angle while backing down the ramp, but in the flat area moving into place in line to go in. Another favorite spot for it to jam up was getting up to speed on the freeway. I adjusted it as folks here said, rebuilt everything I could and it still hung up at the WORST times.
About 5 or 6 years ago I swapped it out for a th350. I still say of all the upgrades I've done to this old truck, putting in a automatic transmission was THE best one. I love manual trannys but everything has a time and a place. IMHO, the time isn't at the boat ramp and the place isn't in my truck. Keep in mind your gas mileage will go DOWN if you swap in that th350. You have the same final gear in a th350 as in a 3-on-the-tree but with the torque converter slip your mileage will suffer.
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Re: good and bad news
Adjust it, and find out what style of shifting it likes.
On mine, sometimes I just just clunk it up to second, but usually I'll slide up to reverse a little, before crossing the "H" and hitting second. Mine used to hang up at the worst times - like in front of the main building when I drive to college. I just kept experimenting, and tinkering with it. Found out what "style" of shifting it liked, replaced the "bushings" - which I made out of an old rubber air hose, and all in all, it's pretty tight and I can slap through them pretty quick. Just my 2 cents. -Sam.
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Re: good and bad news
Find a fLoor shifter........3 on the tree SUCKS ! even when they work right. I switched mine to a 4 Speed after it exploded, a friend had a Saginaw that he sold cheap, but a shifter for a truck 4 speed is expensive.
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Re: good and bad news
wow tclark your close to me!
ok guys im trying to adjust it with no help ive read the thing in the faq over and over and cant get it.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=215307 Now here is the biggest problem with these and the fix - shifter getting stuck betwen gears - at the very bottom of the column there are 2 small bolts that hold the lower bearing, and a clamp bolt, loosen but don't remove them. They are on a slanted slot/cam. Turn the sleeve counterclockwise to remove the slack between the lower shift levers, this will keep the selector between the shift levers from sliding past the levers causing it to be "stuck". ^that seems to be my problem, except i cant figure out which 2 bolts its talking about, in the cab or under the hood, i found 2 7/16 bolts loosened them and tried to spin the clamp looking thing counterclockwise and nothing HELP please!!
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