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**Dieselwrencher** · 11-25-2009, 02:22 AM

I really wanted a cowl hood for my Longhorn but I couldn't see spending the money right now since the truck does not run.

So I put a hood scoop I had laying around on my hood. I'll have to put better primer on it later, and this is only with one light coat of filler. Tell me what you think.

OARNGESI · 11-25-2009, 02:28 AM

Looks really good im just not a big fan of the cowl hoods

EA69TRK · 11-25-2009, 02:29 AM

wow that looks better than most of the aftemarket ones i have seen how big of a cowl is it?

**71blksuper4x4** · 11-25-2009, 02:30 AM

What was your procedure for doing this?? I did this once with a hood on my old 72' 4x4 with a 3-4" fiberglass scoop. We riveted it to the existing hood and fiberglassed and bondo it, but it wound up cracking not to long after. Not much you can do when the hood vibrates as bad as these old hoods do. You can use the new adhesives that they make for fiberglass bonding which I hear great things about, but I don't think there will ever be a way to keep it from cracking around the edges. You are doing a good job, and I don't mean to be a debby downer, just sharing my luck. That and the overhang of your hood scoop, might interfere with opening the hood as it might hit the windshield when opening, but not sure. Trevor

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-25-2009, 02:45 AM

Thanks guys. Trevor, I thought about that and I guess I will cut it if needed. I used a valvoline brand 2 part epoxy/glue. I have used this stuff before and I love it. It works on bare metal, aluminum, and smc/fiberglass, and even bond metals to some wood. I used this on the firewall of my corvette and I know it sees lots of vibrations due to the basically solid engine mounts , the diesel, and the drag racing. No cracks anywhere where I used it. I used this on the front clip when I built it as well. This stuff works great. I have used another brand in the past and it liked to crack a lot. It was Lord Fuser brand.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-25-2009, 02:53 AM

I think it is a 2 1/4" scoop. I will describe the process I did so you have an idea. I used 80 grit and sanded the area where the scoop will be. I primered this area. I put the scoop on the hood and trimmed the front to go over the rib of the hood. I then eye balled the scoop on the center of the hood because I couldn't measure this one because it was on a hood once before. Then I used 80 grit and cleaned the surface of the scoop. I reinstalled it on the hood, used self tapping screws and mounted the scoop. I marked the edges as well as the inner lip at the opening at the rear of the hood. I removed the scoop and sanded to bare metal with 80 grit again. I cleaned it all and then applied the epoxy on the scoop first. I laid the scoop on the hood and then screwed it down. Then I epoxied all the way around the scoop. I then used masking tape and put over the epoxied area to smooth it out. I let it set over night and then removed the tape and screws. I epoxied the screw holes shut and let them dry. Then I took a sanding block with 80 grit and sanded it to a contoured angle or smooth. I used bondo and beveled it back all the way around the scoop. I sanded it out with 80 grit and used spray bomb primer for now. I will have to go over the filler with a glazing putty when I put some real filler primer on it. I was happy with the way it turned out for my first real time doing this. The last time I attempted one of these I didn't get the scoop on correct because it too was used but I didn't notice the scoop was bent on one side causing it to be lob sided.

cdowns · 11-25-2009, 07:53 AM

looks good

rustyescott · 11-25-2009, 08:12 AM

i like this . can i copy the idea rusty

68_Step · 11-25-2009, 08:33 AM

I like it, I have always been a fan of cowl hoods on older trucks.

jholley · 11-25-2009, 08:35 AM

Looks good, nice work.

rsavage · 11-25-2009, 08:45 AM

I think it looks great. Nice job.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-25-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyescott

i like this . can i copy the idea rusty

Thanks. Go ahead and give it a try. Body shops do this all the time. I used to work in one when I went to college and this was common practice for this. I know it works better than fiberglassing one on. I've done that and it is a lot more work for sure getting the scoop to feather into the hood.

bigguy69 · 11-25-2009, 05:45 PM

looks good!

brn agn · 11-25-2009, 09:20 PM

I think it looks good. It reminds me of the shape of the 69 Z28 hoods.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 11-25-2009, 09:26 PM

That looks damn good..

flashed · 11-25-2009, 09:41 PM

That looks good , I want one too someday.

Smallz72project · 11-26-2009, 12:34 AM

Hood turned out really well, props for that. Used to work in a body shop myself, and now because of it...Im super anal about body work. Sometimes I think Im too anal about it. Love how the line matches up and blends in the middle. One thing I do notice....needs a bit more massaging/blending on the sides..at least on the left side. I can see the out line of the cowl through the primer and will only become more apparent with paint. But other wise superb job!! Is it, or will it become functional, or just aesthetics?

**LockDoc** · 11-26-2009, 12:39 AM

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Looks great!

Let me know when you are ready to do another one...

LockDoc

stueber68 · 11-26-2009, 02:47 AM

Great fab work there! Not to be a buzzkill or anything, but have you test fit the hood. It looks like the cowl may come back far enough to contact the wiper cowl of your truck when raised.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-26-2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smallz72project

Hood turned out really well, props for that. Used to work in a body shop myself, and now because of it...Im super anal about body work. Sometimes I think Im too anal about it. Love how the line matches up and blends in the middle. One thing I do notice....needs a bit more massaging/blending on the sides..at least on the left side. I can see the out line of the cowl through the primer and will only become more apparent with paint. But other wise superb job!! Is it, or will it become functional, or just aesthetics?

I'm sure it would look better if it had real filler primer on it. This is with poof can Krylon primer. All my home tools are boxed up right now because we are putting up a new building. I'm sure it needs more work to be perfect, and I will finish it when I get it running. There some other bad spots on the hood itself I need to repair as well. And I doubt I will make it functional, that may change though.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-26-2009, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stueber68

Great fab work there! Not to be a buzzkill or anything, but have you test fit the hood. It looks like the cowl may come back far enough to contact the wiper cowl of your truck when raised.

Thanks. No I haven't test fit it yet. I will cut it if needed once I get the hood on the truck. At the moment the whole front clip isn't on the truck so I couldn't test fit it. We shall see in a few days with any luck.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-26-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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Looks great!

Let me know when you are ready to do another one...

LockDoc

Leon, we could set up a little work party sometime.

Lippyp · 11-26-2009, 05:21 AM

That looks great, I really want a cowl hood but the shipping to the UK is a real killer so this may be the only way to go for me. Does anyone produce a steel scoop that could be welded on?

**71blksuper4x4** · 11-26-2009, 11:15 AM

Here ya go LippyP,

http://www.thespeedcenter.net/SpeedC...meFrameSet.htm

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-27-2009, 05:19 PM

I think those are cheaper than the summit ones too. The next one I do will more than likely be steel. Here are some pics of the hood on the truck. I don't have the hinges on yet because I was the only one around this morning. It's pretty hard to bolt one of these on by your self for sure. The rear part of the scoop is close, but it just might not hit the windshield when it opens up. I'll have to see later on.

11-25-2009, 02:22 AM	#1
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Tell me what you think I really wanted a cowl hood for my Longhorn but I couldn't see spending the money right now since the truck does not run. So I put a hood scoop I had laying around on my hood. I'll have to put better primer on it later, and this is only with one light coat of filler. Tell me what you think. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-25-2009, 02:28 AM	#2
OARNGESI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CASA GRANDE AZ Posts: 4,276	Re: Tell me what you think Looks really good im just not a big fan of the cowl hoods __________________ 70 SWB STEPSIDE 70 BLAZER 09 challenger

11-25-2009, 02:29 AM	#3
EA69TRK Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sacramento,California Posts: 323	Re: Tell me what you think wow that looks better than most of the aftemarket ones i have seen how big of a cowl is it?

11-25-2009, 02:30 AM	#4
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,155	Re: Tell me what you think What was your procedure for doing this?? I did this once with a hood on my old 72' 4x4 with a 3-4" fiberglass scoop. We riveted it to the existing hood and fiberglassed and bondo it, but it wound up cracking not to long after. Not much you can do when the hood vibrates as bad as these old hoods do. You can use the new adhesives that they make for fiberglass bonding which I hear great things about, but I don't think there will ever be a way to keep it from cracking around the edges. You are doing a good job, and I don't mean to be a debby downer, just sharing my luck. That and the overhang of your hood scoop, might interfere with opening the hood as it might hit the windshield when opening, but not sure. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

11-25-2009, 02:45 AM	#5
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Tell me what you think Thanks guys. Trevor, I thought about that and I guess I will cut it if needed. I used a valvoline brand 2 part epoxy/glue. I have used this stuff before and I love it. It works on bare metal, aluminum, and smc/fiberglass, and even bond metals to some wood. I used this on the firewall of my corvette and I know it sees lots of vibrations due to the basically solid engine mounts , the diesel, and the drag racing. No cracks anywhere where I used it. I used this on the front clip when I built it as well. This stuff works great. I have used another brand in the past and it liked to crack a lot. It was Lord Fuser brand. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.* Last edited by Dieselwrencher; 11-25-2009 at 02:57 AM.

11-25-2009, 02:53 AM	#6
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Tell me what you think I think it is a 2 1/4" scoop. I will describe the process I did so you have an idea. I used 80 grit and sanded the area where the scoop will be. I primered this area. I put the scoop on the hood and trimmed the front to go over the rib of the hood. I then eye balled the scoop on the center of the hood because I couldn't measure this one because it was on a hood once before. Then I used 80 grit and cleaned the surface of the scoop. I reinstalled it on the hood, used self tapping screws and mounted the scoop. I marked the edges as well as the inner lip at the opening at the rear of the hood. I removed the scoop and sanded to bare metal with 80 grit again. I cleaned it all and then applied the epoxy on the scoop first. I laid the scoop on the hood and then screwed it down. Then I epoxied all the way around the scoop. I then used masking tape and put over the epoxied area to smooth it out. I let it set over night and then removed the tape and screws. I epoxied the screw holes shut and let them dry. Then I took a sanding block with 80 grit and sanded it to a contoured angle or smooth. I used bondo and beveled it back all the way around the scoop. I sanded it out with 80 grit and used spray bomb primer for now. I will have to go over the filler with a glazing putty when I put some real filler primer on it. I was happy with the way it turned out for my first real time doing this. The last time I attempted one of these I didn't get the scoop on correct because it too was used but I didn't notice the scoop was bent on one side causing it to be lob sided. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-25-2009, 07:53 AM	#7
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11-25-2009, 08:12 AM	#8
rustyescott Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: clifton tx Posts: 209	Re: Tell me what you think i like this . can i copy the idea rusty

11-25-2009, 08:33 AM	#9
68_Step Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Marshfield, MO Posts: 355	Re: Tell me what you think I like it, I have always been a fan of cowl hoods on older trucks.

11-25-2009, 08:35 AM	#10
jholley Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TX Posts: 737	Re: Tell me what you think Looks good, nice work. __________________ ------------------------------------------------- Jim Garage fillers... 85 Chevy C10 Silverado LWB 07 Nissan Altima 2006 Mini Cooper S

11-25-2009, 08:45 AM	#11
rsavage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alden NY Posts: 2,705	Re: Tell me what you think I think it looks great. Nice job.

11-25-2009, 05:45 PM	#13
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11-25-2009, 09:20 PM	#14
brn agn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 952	Re: Tell me what you think I think it looks good. It reminds me of the shape of the 69 Z28 hoods. __________________ 1969 C10 SWB Project Charity Case AKA "Roscoe" 1971 Cheyenne Super A Combined Effort The Service Station-A practical ministry for those in need

11-25-2009, 09:26 PM	#15
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: Tell me what you think That looks damn good.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

11-25-2009, 09:41 PM	#16
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11-26-2009, 12:34 AM	#17
Smallz72project Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 273	Re: Tell me what you think Hood turned out really well, props for that. Used to work in a body shop myself, and now because of it...Im super anal about body work. Sometimes I think Im too anal about it. Love how the line matches up and blends in the middle. One thing I do notice....needs a bit more massaging/blending on the sides..at least on the left side. I can see the out line of the cowl through the primer and will only become more apparent with paint. But other wise superb job!! Is it, or will it become functional, or just aesthetics? __________________ - 1967 Chevy C10 shortbox - 1984 Chevy K10 "Mater"- SWB 305 manual, retired sheriffs truck, Current Frame Off Project - 1986 Chevy K10 LWB 350/350 Daily Driver/project

11-26-2009, 12:39 AM	#18
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,648	Re: Tell me what you think - Looks great! Let me know when you are ready to do another one... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 11-26-2009 at 12:39 AM.

11-26-2009, 02:47 AM	#19
stueber68 1968 C20 Vortec Beast Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: STILLWATER,OKLAHOMA Posts: 483	Re: Tell me what you think Great fab work there! Not to be a buzzkill or anything, but have you test fit the hood. It looks like the cowl may come back far enough to contact the wiper cowl of your truck when raised. __________________ Ugly or not it still kicks a**!

11-26-2009, 05:21 AM	#23
Lippyp English Chevy Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shropshire, UK/ Lot, France Posts: 1,848	Re: Tell me what you think That looks great, I really want a cowl hood but the shipping to the UK is a real killer so this may be the only way to go for me. Does anyone produce a steel scoop that could be welded on? __________________ Phil '67 C10 long fleet. 350/TH350, 4 bbl Carter, K&N, Dual exhaust, loads of stuff coming soon 2001 S10 Blazer Daily Driver, bone stock 4 door 4x4 with manual transmission

11-26-2009, 11:15 AM	#24
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,155	Re: Tell me what you think Here ya go LippyP, http://www.thespeedcenter.net/SpeedC...meFrameSet.htm __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

11-27-2009, 05:19 PM	#25
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: Tell me what you think I think those are cheaper than the summit ones too. The next one I do will more than likely be steel. Here are some pics of the hood on the truck. I don't have the hinges on yet because I was the only one around this morning. It's pretty hard to bolt one of these on by your self for sure. The rear part of the scoop is close, but it just might not hit the windshield when it opens up. I'll have to see later on. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

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