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toddtheodd · 12-12-2009, 03:33 PM

Is this the gear shift lever for an automatic or standard (both on the column... of course)?

I ask, because I have an automatic, and this shift lever has always seemed... sloppy.

Toad

toddtheodd · 12-12-2009, 05:28 PM

Nobody knows?

DJMAN · 12-12-2009, 05:29 PM

My "standard" looks like that one.

toddtheodd · 12-12-2009, 05:41 PM

That's what I'm thinking, is that I have a standard gear shift lever instead of an auto.

mbgmike · 12-12-2009, 06:05 PM

Standard. Auto has does not have that little point

toddtheodd · 12-12-2009, 08:25 PM

Well... then believe me when I say we all learned something new here today.
We've all learned that a standard gear shift lever CAN be used on auto column. But also believe me when I say that they don't work well.

I think the auto lever must be thicker or something, because the standard shifter is really loose in the column.

dan42 · 12-12-2009, 08:30 PM

My auto shifter was sloppy as well - there is supposed to be a rubber grommet on the business end of the shift lever - I replaced mine and it tightened up the feel signifigantly.

toddtheodd · 12-12-2009, 08:33 PM

Well... the only way for me to shift into either 2 (or 1) is to put it in park, and then QUICKLY slam it down into 1. I can't just slide if from D into 2. It won't move.

gmc1971harwich · 12-12-2009, 09:23 PM

i ordered that same shifter handle from LMC for my 71 auto non tilt column, but where do i get the rubber gromet???? my shifter is wicked sloppy as well and LMC doesnt have the pin that goes through the hole

where can i find that the one from the tilt column is a different size i think wont fit in the column side of the hole?

**NGN** · 12-12-2009, 10:21 PM

my auto lever looks different on the end , wish i could take pic. but , mine goes on a tilt don't know if there's a difference with non-tilt .

pearsonhoss · 12-13-2009, 12:26 AM

i have both the auto is a little longer yhan the standard

toddtheodd · 12-13-2009, 10:25 AM

Sounds to me like I need to find the auto lever.

teeitup · 12-13-2009, 04:54 PM

I beg to differ with everyone but what you have is a automatic shifter, here ar a couple I have, both off automatics, the one on the top has a bushing on it so there isn't any slop. I've got probably 10 shifters out there out of auto's and all are the same as these, I know for sure I haven't had a 3 speed truck around here for years.

toddtheodd · 12-13-2009, 05:23 PM

So why can't I go from D to 2 (or 1)?
Why do I have to quickly slide if from P to 1?

toddtheodd · 12-13-2009, 05:26 PM

Oh, and the slop I'm talking about is that the lever is x millimeters wide, and the hole in the column that it goes into is y millimeters wide, which is z millimeters wider than x...
I'd say, 2 to 3 millimeters wider.
So that in D, I can move the end of the shifter about 4 inches before it goes into N, and I have to tap, tap, tap it into N, because it doesn't "click" into N like it should.

**LockDoc** · 12-13-2009, 08:05 PM

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If that cotter key was used for a retaining pin I can see why it would be loose...

LockDoc

toddtheodd · 12-13-2009, 08:39 PM

That cotter key is the exact diameter of the holes in the shifter / column that it goes though. In fact, I had to hammer it in a bit.
It's not that hole I'm talking about...
Tell y'all what... here in a bit I'll take a picture of the loose spot and post it.

toddtheodd · 12-13-2009, 08:52 PM

This gap:

gmc1971harwich · 12-13-2009, 11:17 PM

does anyone know where to get the grommet that goes on the tip of the shifter handle?? i need one too mine doesnt have any and is sloppy

sneakysnake · 12-13-2009, 11:29 PM

Gmc pauls has this, notice the yrs differences.
http://www.gmcpauls.com/auto.transmission.htm

**LockDoc** · 12-14-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddtheodd

This gap:

I would guess you will have to get a different shift collar to correct that. If you knew a good welder he could probably build up the lever and you could grind it down so it fit tight. That would do for a temporary repair anyway.

LockDoc

mbgmike · 12-14-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeitup

I beg to differ with everyone but what you have is a automatic shifter, here ar a couple I have, both off automatics, the one on the top has a bushing on it so there isn't any slop. I've got probably 10 shifters out there out of auto's and all are the same as these, I know for sure I haven't had a 3 speed truck around here for years.

Yeah my mistake I was thinking an auto with tilt

**Classic Heartbeat** · 12-14-2009, 02:18 PM

The non tilt automatic shift lever and 3 speed column shift lever are the same. Most of the slop that you guys are getting is because the nylon bushing is either warn out or missing completely. We have three of these bushings in stock. $4.95 plus shipping.
Todtheodd, you have a couple of problems going on with your column. One is the carter key that you are using for a shift lever pin and the other is a warn out collar that has been wallered out from age. The nylon bushing is probably shot also. WES

gmc1971harwich · 12-15-2009, 08:38 PM

i looked on your website but i couldnt find the nylon bushing in the online catalog can you type a link to the page thanks

pickupman · 12-15-2009, 09:10 PM

Wes is correct on this, also the width of the shifter is different 67-70 and 71/72 as well as the collars it fits into

12-12-2009, 03:33 PM	#1
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Gear Shift lever Is this the gear shift lever for an automatic or standard (both on the column... of course)? I ask, because I have an automatic, and this shift lever has always seemed... sloppy. Toad Attached Images __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-12-2009, 05:28 PM	#2
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever Nobody knows? __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-12-2009, 05:29 PM	#3
DJMAN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 82	Re: Gear Shift lever My "standard" looks like that one.

12-12-2009, 05:41 PM	#4
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever That's what I'm thinking, is that I have a standard gear shift lever instead of an auto. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-12-2009, 06:05 PM	#5
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: Gear Shift lever Standard. Auto has does not have that little point

12-12-2009, 08:25 PM	#6
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever Well... then believe me when I say we all learned something new here today. We've all learned that a standard gear shift lever CAN be used on auto column. But also believe me when I say that they don't work well. I think the auto lever must be thicker or something, because the standard shifter is really loose in the column. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-12-2009, 08:30 PM	#7
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Gear Shift lever My auto shifter was sloppy as well - there is supposed to be a rubber grommet on the business end of the shift lever - I replaced mine and it tightened up the feel signifigantly. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

12-12-2009, 08:33 PM	#8
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever Well... the only way for me to shift into either 2 (or 1) is to put it in park, and then QUICKLY slam it down into 1. I can't just slide if from D into 2. It won't move. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY??? Last edited by toddtheodd; 12-12-2009 at 08:33 PM.

12-12-2009, 09:23 PM	#9
gmc1971harwich Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cape cod, ma. Posts: 394	Re: Gear Shift lever i ordered that same shifter handle from LMC for my 71 auto non tilt column, but where do i get the rubber gromet???? my shifter is wicked sloppy as well and LMC doesnt have the pin that goes through the hole where can i find that the one from the tilt column is a different size i think wont fit in the column side of the hole?

12-12-2009, 10:21 PM	#10
NGN Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Old Bridge,NJ Posts: 838	Re: Gear Shift lever my auto lever looks different on the end , wish i could take pic. but , mine goes on a tilt don't know if there's a difference with non-tilt .

12-13-2009, 12:26 AM	#11
pearsonhoss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: pearl ms. Posts: 30	Re: Gear Shift lever i have both the auto is a little longer yhan the standard

12-13-2009, 10:25 AM	#12
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever Sounds to me like I need to find the auto lever. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-13-2009, 04:54 PM	#13
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,395	Re: Gear Shift lever I beg to differ with everyone but what you have is a automatic shifter, here ar a couple I have, both off automatics, the one on the top has a bushing on it so there isn't any slop. I've got probably 10 shifters out there out of auto's and all are the same as these, I know for sure I haven't had a 3 speed truck around here for years. Attached Images __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

12-13-2009, 05:23 PM	#14
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever So why can't I go from D to 2 (or 1)? Why do I have to quickly slide if from P to 1? __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-13-2009, 05:26 PM	#15
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever Oh, and the slop I'm talking about is that the lever is x millimeters wide, and the hole in the column that it goes into is y millimeters wide, which is z millimeters wider than x... I'd say, 2 to 3 millimeters wider. So that in D, I can move the end of the shifter about 4 inches before it goes into N, and I have to tap, tap, tap it into N, because it doesn't "click" into N like it should. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???



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12-13-2009, 08:05 PM	#16
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,774	Re: Gear Shift lever - If that cotter key was used for a retaining pin I can see why it would be loose... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

12-13-2009, 08:39 PM	#17
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever That cotter key is the exact diameter of the holes in the shifter / column that it goes though. In fact, I had to hammer it in a bit. It's not that hole I'm talking about... Tell y'all what... here in a bit I'll take a picture of the loose spot and post it. __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-13-2009, 08:52 PM	#18
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Gear Shift lever This gap: Attached Images __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

12-13-2009, 11:17 PM	#19
gmc1971harwich Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cape cod, ma. Posts: 394	Re: Gear Shift lever does anyone know where to get the grommet that goes on the tip of the shifter handle?? i need one too mine doesnt have any and is sloppy

12-13-2009, 11:29 PM	#20
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: Gear Shift lever Gmc pauls has this, notice the yrs differences. http://www.gmcpauls.com/auto.transmission.htm

12-14-2009, 02:18 PM	#23
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Gear Shift lever The non tilt automatic shift lever and 3 speed column shift lever are the same. Most of the slop that you guys are getting is because the nylon bushing is either warn out or missing completely. We have three of these bushings in stock. $4.95 plus shipping. Todtheodd, you have a couple of problems going on with your column. One is the carter key that you are using for a shift lever pin and the other is a warn out collar that has been wallered out from age. The nylon bushing is probably shot also. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

12-15-2009, 08:38 PM	#24
gmc1971harwich Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cape cod, ma. Posts: 394	Re: Gear Shift lever i looked on your website but i couldnt find the nylon bushing in the online catalog can you type a link to the page thanks

12-15-2009, 09:10 PM	#25
pickupman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 3,097	Re: Gear Shift lever Wes is correct on this, also the width of the shifter is different 67-70 and 71/72 as well as the collars it fits into __________________ atheystruck@comcast.net 67 1/2 ton 4wd custom cab 72 1/2 ton 4wd super cheyenne 71 1/2 BB super cheyenne shortbed

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