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Old 01-26-2010, 02:24 AM   #26
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Re: Cleaning, Degreasing engine, tranny, and frame - Tips and Best Practices?

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.....how many cans of paint do i need for this and how many cans of primer? and should i use self etching primer?

any brand recommended?
On any bare metal you want to use self etch, but remember, self etch is not a primer primer, you need to use the self etch for the bare metal and then primer.

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por-15
Never really had good luck with por-15, It works ok, but I will swear by http://www.masterseriesct.com/ . good people, good product.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:04 AM   #27
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Don't forget to use your local'dollar store",you can get your paint brushes,oven cleaner etc. real cheap!
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:53 AM   #28
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ditto ^^

I was about to mention the same thing. Get your oven cleaner at the dollar store!!! i spent $20 on oven cleaner, needed a box to carry it all. you can get carb cleaner, brake cleaner, etc, as well.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:37 AM   #29
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Re: Cleaning, Degreasing engine, tranny, and frame - Tips and Best Practices?

I got a couple of cans of Oven Cleaner from Dollar Tree and a power washer.

I appreciate all the feedback and photos.

Just a reminder... I'm doing mine with the engine in - I don't have a way to pull it. However, every piece of sheet metal is off.

Is there any special considerations since I still have my drive train intact?
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:20 PM   #30
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Never really had good luck with por-15, It works ok, but I will swear by http://www.masterseriesct.com/ . good people, good product.
If the surface is prepped properly, por will never come off. I have never had a problem with it.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:52 PM   #31
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cover the carb ,dizzy. oil and trany dip sticks........
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:43 PM   #32
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hmm so bare metal I need etching primer

are you guys going to bare metal when ya do frames etc?

Do i HAVE to go bare metal? why? im guessing because it sticks better?

i wanna do this 1 time not again next year lol i got 2 cans of oven cleaner today should i get more just for cab back?
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:54 PM   #33
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On any bare metal you want to use self etch, but remember, self etch is not a primer primer, you need to use the self etch for the bare metal and then primer.



Never really had good luck with por-15, It works ok, but I will swear by http://www.masterseriesct.com/ . good people, good product.
Im sold. Going to buy this when I'm ready to coat my frame.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:50 PM   #34
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oven cleaner. spend for the good stuff like the heavy duty Grill cleaner stuff and buy a few cans. Stand up wind when you spray it as it really hurts when it gets in your eyes.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:19 AM   #35
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If the surface is prepped properly, por will never come off. I have never had a problem with it.
Never had problems with the prep or it coming off. I prep cars for a living, that brings up a very good point. Anything you do is only as good as the prep work, that is key. You can spend a billion dollars and thousands of hours making your paint job look perfect but if your prep and whats under is it crap its a waist of time. As for the the por-15 it does it's job but personally speaking I have had better luck with masters (so far). I used por for a long time because it was all I knew.


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hmm so bare metal I need etching primer

are you guys going to bare metal when ya do frames etc?

Do i HAVE to go bare metal? why? im guessing because it sticks better?

i wanna do this 1 time not again next year lol i got 2 cans of oven cleaner today should i get more just for cab back?

You don't HAVE to go to bare metal, just down to a good substrate. As far as oven cleaner, if its from the dollar store (great tip, I never thought to look there) why not get extra cans, 1 - its only a dollar and 2 - if you don't use it, clear your oven.

On a side note by boss was talking about renewing his DEQ stuff and from the way it sounds "aircraft stripper", "gun cleaner" and other like solvents are going to be banned from public use by not being put on the shelf. He was saying that even for the shop to have the gun cleaner around he has to pay an extra $800 a year for the DEQ stuff.
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Re: Cleaning, Degreasing engine, tranny, and frame - Tips and Best Practices?

Did you use gloss black paint in the bay "after" picture??


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HOT water pressure washer- you don't need alot of pressure- the hot water is the ticket. Just an idea to throw out there- used to sell Hot Water Pressure Washers and water systems. We had to do so many "demos" on a monthly basis, so I was always looking for places to demo. If you find someplace that sells them in your area- call them up. You might have to listen to a sales pitch, but you might get it done for free.
I rented one for a day-
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:40 PM   #37
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Do you do this in your driveway? Doesnt it make a total
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:31 PM   #38
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Steam cleaning penetrates and removes all the grease dirt and grime.....
If you have anyone closeby that can do this it will be worth every penny.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:27 PM   #39
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Re: Cleaning, Degreasing engine, tranny, and frame - Tips and Best Practices?

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HOT water pressure washer- you don't need alot of pressure- the hot water is the ticket. Just an idea to throw out there- used to sell Hot Water Pressure Washers and water systems. We had to do so many "demos" on a monthly basis, so I was always looking for places to demo. If you find someplace that sells them in your area- call them up. You might have to listen to a sales pitch, but you might get it done for free.
I rented one for a day-
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When I did my truck I called Hotsy and rented one.
That water gets allot hotter then the car washers. They also had degreasers to sell too.
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Re: Cleaning, Degreasing engine, tranny, and frame - Tips and Best Practices?

I know this is an old thread, but after three days of wire wheeling, using various grease solvents and a pressure washer; I decided to check the forum and see if there was an easier way (oven cleaner). Perhaps this should be a sticky somewhere if it is not already.
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:37 AM   #41
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POR marine clean or bilge cleaner will remove 40 years of caked on junk.
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