Project' 69 c10 aka sin.

[samwise68]

You are a dumb teenager! Bwahaha. Hell, we all are. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, ya dig?

I'm not sure on the rocker studs - I haven't played with them yet.

The undercarriage on that baby looks clean. Cripes, am I jealous.

Also, any wrecking yard should have an oil pan for a 230/250. Otherwise, hit up craigslist. I don't think it'll be a special kinda like in the Chevy II with the weird sump arrangements.

Keep at 'er man. It'll be a sweet cruiser. And don't forget about your truck in the mean time.

-Sam.

[threeonthetree]

i dig
hah

ill check the junk yard its right up the street.
ill need a pan gasket also..'

idk how clean it is sam haha. but its a little bit better than your nova...

do you fellas think its better i have a 230 rather the 235 seems like the 235 would have been alot more trouble.
which one had more poneys?

also wondering if anybody has the torque specs on the head?

i hope to hear her run today if my brother helps.
Ive been keeping my eye on the truck. all that's really left is the bed.

[292farmer]

no problem lol sometimes i get carried away, or get snappy myself, im sure your feeling stressed with your leg to. good luck!!
im not sure theirs much power difference between the two sixes, and im sure their both real reliable. i found in my two different manuals a head torque of 90lbs in haynes and 95lbs in chiltons. so id say anything between 90-95lbs

[oldblue1968chevy]

jack up back, spin 1 tire if they both spin together same direction posi, if they spin opp. of each other 1 wheel peeler! lol i think this's right.

that car would look sweet with some diff. wheels those wheels and or tires kill it, maybe some older hubcaps or something they look like mud tires ! wow no pics you usually show us pics with every post keep up the good work! any updates on sin lol

[samwise68]

Hands down, in my opinion, the 230 is better. It's a more modern combustion chamber than the 235, better oiling, a better aftermarket and parts interchange, 7 main bearings...etc etc. Both the 235 adn the 230 are damn good engines, i just think the later generation has better qualities.

-Sam.

[threeonthetree]

Need figure out how to tighten the rockers






ear bud cleaner... i forgot what there called ear wicks.




the old man Torquing the heads.. 30 60 then 90.

[threeonthetree]

so we got the head on
motor is not running
how do i verify that each piston is on the compression stroke for tightening the rockers to spec

and what is the spec torque on the rockers/

[threeonthetree]

My leg hurts like **** lately. ahhhh this isn't much fun
BE careful guys... you dont want this **** to happen to you.

so we got the head on, and everything went smoothly.

need to figure out how to torque the rocker arm studs to spec.. and need to know the spec on that.

also still not sure how rocker arm studs are installed.. gonna try freezing them and then pounding them in. only 2 are of great concern.

[threeonthetree]

I'd say the wheels are fine.
Only one of the tires is not right.
Has 4 hub caps but there 2 different sets.

Tires are 35 bucks only for these 14" rims so might get 4.

[292farmer]

is this what u want for the rockers? let me know theirs more sections i can upload #5 says "and pivot with" on 1st to second line hard to see.

[threeonthetree]

We got all the rockers set.
And the motor RUNS.
Now all we need is some trans fluid
And to get the bad gas out of the gas tank....

But it runs good no leaks.

[threeonthetree]

To install the studs we put them in the freezer, than used the impact hammer and a piece of aluminum.
Worked great!

Breaks also are needed

[292farmer]

sweet yeah i hear brakes are good to have lol what tranny is that a powerglide or the 3 spd auto? if its the power glide im curious as to how u feel it handles with the 6 cylinder.

[threeonthetree]

2 speed powerglide.
We just got some auto trans fluid.

My dad said this car will handle like crap. Hah idk.

Can't wait to get some brakes.
Any help with draining the bad gas?

[292farmer]

i just used a siphon i bought at walmart(about 4 bucks) when i pulled the tank out of my 86. how much gas is in the tank? if its about a quarter or less ive heard of some people filling the tank full with good gas just an octane higher, then doing the tune up after the tank is empty, idk how good that is but ive done it, its up to u. good luck

[threeonthetree]

Going out to try to put some trans fluid in.
hopefully the trans is good. i hope it doesnt leak there is 0 fluid in the trans.

maybe get these old brakes torn apart. might be able to salavage some of it.
llooow buck.
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we reused all the antifreeze because of sam;s great tip
might just buy one tire.
ill take some pics of the trunk.
we got 6 rims to choose from. all steelies. you guys diggin the steelies?

[threeonthetree]

did you guys look at the master its like a single chamber.
should i just pull the drums off and see what it looks like how bad it is..
wheel cylinders are junk..?

[samwise68]

I dig steelies alot, but thats just me.

And yeah, the master cylinders were single until '67, then they switched to double pot style.

I'd put some brake fluid in the master, and start pumping, just to see if there is any hope of getting something to catch. That should let you know if theres a broken line, or if the master itself is bad, or if the wheel cylinders are leaking.

Keep at 'er.

-Sam.

[threeonthetree]

Thanks Sam.
We did put some fluid in and it doesn't seem like there are any leaks but no breaks.

Where having some trouble getting the timing right.

Any tips on setting initial timing.

Car moves. Trans Is good

[threeonthetree]

damnit i think the timing chain is bad
cause when we line up the marks on the harmonic balancer and set the timing for number one accordingly.
the engine runs like crap.
it is like rough and just not right.
hardly runs at all and when we check with the timing light its not even close but in the ball park still 4 inches off.


so.... idk about this motor i think its seen to many miles.
give me any tips on

why the motor would have such a rough idle

and tell me if im setting the timing right with harmonic balancer

thanks guys..

[threeonthetree]

well if this motor has a junk timing chain.. i cant seem to find any on summit.
idk looks like all this time was wasted/////

[Palf70Step]

Try NAPA or AutoZone for a Timing Chain.

[threeonthetree]

do you think this could be our problem?

[threeonthetree]

i just called autozone they cant even order it.
i bet other places would be the same. i tryed napa must not be open right now.

bummer


Edit. still bummed
but i can get cam kits for this motor that come with a timing chain.

would it be worth it to put a new cam in. and get head work done... since she does burn some oil.. for the little while it has been
running.

i know these motors are cool.. but they aint' worth squat.. could maybe get 75 bucks for it and that pushing it.

[threeonthetree]

time to start looking for a new motor.......

what a waste of time.