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700 r-4 converter lock up
I just picked up a 700r4 out of a 1986 Chevy caprice classic that was behind a 305,I want to put it in my 64 step behind my built 350,I have the complete car,so will have other parts.My question is,do I have to rewire trans with a hot wire for the converter lockup,or should I just run it?Tx Firefighter posted a quick rewire does this work for you?Thanks
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
How about a shifter other than a lokar? any ideas?
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
My suggestion would be a B&M Megashifter, Quicksilver, or Prostick possibly a ProRatchet. I Megashifter (ratchet) in a S10 Blazer with a small block and 700r4 that is built (rev manual valve body, gears, vette servo, 3500 stall converter). I like the ratchet shifter in it. But it is being redone and are switching to a ProRatchet. Just my two pennies.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
When I was still driving mine it had a Prostick. I had to swap out the plate to go from a three speed auto to a foer speed auto.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I have a B&M ratchet /gate shifter,for 3 speed auto,can I alter or change anything to make it work for a 4 speed auto,anyone ever done this?
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I should have said B&M star shifter
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
You need to be able to lock up the converter. It will create to much heat if you don't. Just wire it and use a toggle switch. I did that for years and I liked it as I could control the lock up myself.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I'm still running the old z-gate from my previous 400, I just have no way of holding it in low gear. love the manual lock up, I think I have a TCI kit off of e-bay, didn't spend big bucks. haven't seen Tx Firefighter's diagram but wouldn't hesitate to try it.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I used a automatic column out of a van. Gee I am so boring, but I got it at pick n pull for $28. it looks like this one except cleaner.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
How do you tell if the lockup is working properly? On mine at low speeds I feel a clunk that feels like a downshift on a manual transmission (it's a stage 2 700r4) Is that the lockup releasing?
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I think the star shifter is 3 speed only: http://www.fastpts.com/cgi-bin/hazel...mshifters.html
On my Mega Shifter I had to remove a couple of pins & swap out the plate that shows you what gear your in. |
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
With the Painless kit the lock up work fine on the highway. My 406 has a big cam so around town when the converter locks up the trucks starts to buck and jerk. This is at speeds under 55. To solve this I installed a toggle switch to lock the converter up when I choose to.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
Is there anyway to use the original Automatic Steering column thats set up for a three speed automatic when installing a overdrive tranny like a 200R4?
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
So you need to lock up tranny in overdrive only?Or is it the whole time through all gears.I f I use my z-gate ,I won't have L1?Here is diagram from TX FIREFIGHTER.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
Yes you can. I am using a 3 speed auto column from a van. It would be a 70's van column.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
These columns come from 70's vans. I think all the way up to 1979 or 80 are the same. I welded two nuts to the bottom of the column so I could bolt it to the coliumn/hand brake bracket. I also used the lower column from a 73 and up truck.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
[QUOTE=Chevy Fleetside;3936495]Yes you can. I am using a 3 speed auto column from a van. It would be a 70's van column.[/QUOTE
Chevy Fleetside, I guess that the drive position would actually be the overdive position and you just wouldn't be able to manually shift the tranny into L1, would that be right? JRBECK64 |
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I guess I could make the steering column from the caprice work,just some fab work,and linkage,and would leave more leg room.Also run wiring with switch right on shifter arm.
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
B & M makes a great pull and play lockup controller that's allows you to manually adjust the lockup. I put one in when I installed my 700R4 I think at the time it cost about $150 but it was worth it.
You can use your 3 speed colume (automatic) you just need to get your self a 4 speed indicator to mount on your colume in place of the 3 speed. I used the original powerglide colume and shift linkage all the way up though my 200R4. |
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Re: 700 r-4 converter lock up
I used a kit from Jegs that uses vacuum to control the lock up. Heres the link: http://www.jegs.com/i/TCI/890/376600...oductId=748599
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