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**mikey531** · 07-11-2010, 11:12 AM

I have been arguing with myself for about a year now on whether to move my engine forward a little. It is very close to the firewall and I think it is because some previous owner used the 6 cylinder mounts on the 350. I have decided I do want to move it, so what is the easiest way to solve my problem?

Thanks !

**LockDoc** · 07-11-2010, 01:43 PM

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Get a pair of V-8 frame mounts and put them in the forward holes. Then you will have to shorten the shift linkage rod, move the shifter pivot bracket on the frame, move the trans crossmember forward, find a longer driveshaft, re-bend the trans cooler lines, adjust or lengthen the throttle rod, lengthen the exhaust pipe or pipes, maybe shorten the radiator hoses, and lengthen the heater hoses, and fuel line from the tank and a few other things I forgot...

LockDoc

cdowns · 07-11-2010, 01:49 PM

if you have a lazyman rubber line from pump to carb put a metal fuel line in b4 the fire

**mikey531** · 07-11-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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Get a pair of V-8 frame mounts and put them in the forward holes. Then you will have to shorten the shift linkage rod, move the shifter pivot bracket on the frame, move the trans crossmember forward, find a longer driveshaft, re-bend the trans cooler lines, adjust or lengthen the throttle rod, lengthen the exhaust pipe or pipes, maybe shorten the radiator hoses, and lengthen the heater hoses, and fuel line from the tank and a few other things I forgot...

LockDoc

I was kind of thinking only an inch or maybe an inch and a half. Can I just drill new holes in the frame?

**mikey531** · 07-11-2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

if you have a lazyman rubber line from pump to carb put a metal fuel line in b4 the fire

Umm I do have a steel line going to the carb... Where do you see rubber line?

Thanks

cdowns · 07-11-2010, 03:12 PM

i didnt say you had rubber fuel line did i??

**mikey531** · 07-11-2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

i didnt say you had rubber fuel line did i??

Good Point, no you didn't, sorry

71swb4x4 · 07-11-2010, 05:25 PM

If it works, don't fix it.

The jobs always turn into more than you think they will. Something will break, and all of a sudden you are spending more time and money than you thought.

Shyguy · 07-11-2010, 05:26 PM

We did not want to change the length of the driveshaft so when we transplanted a 454 into my truck that previously had a 350 we had to just let the 454 settle in and drill holes in the frame. Don't forget the lower bolt hole will either have to be drilled or the area welded.

**mikey531** · 07-14-2010, 04:58 PM

I guess I have talked myself out of moving the engine. I seem to remember something about a smaller cap HEI dist cap? Anyone else remember?
Thanks

**michael bustamante** · 07-14-2010, 05:39 PM

Ive seen the smaller hei dizzy caps but I dont remember where. Skip Whites maybe? e bay, Hmmm

**LockDoc** · 07-14-2010, 11:29 PM

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The smaller ones have a separate coil instead of the coil being in the cap.

LockDoc

Lippyp · 07-15-2010, 04:17 AM

I have exactly the same problem to the point that I can't fit an HEI in due to it hitting the firewall. In the end I've bought a pertronix conversion kit for the twin point mallory that was in there and one of their coils and will live with it where it is for the moment.

junkyardjohn · 07-15-2010, 11:50 AM

ACTUALLY... FROM A TRACTION & HANDLING POINT OF VIEW (YOU
'LL PROBABLY NEVER NOTICE IT THOUGH) YOU'RE BETTER OFF HAVING YOU'RE MOTOR (CENTER OF GRAVITY) AS FAR BACK AS YOU CAN COMFORTABLY LIVE WITH. ( IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD REASON TO GIVE ANY OF YOU'RE BUDDIES THAT ASK WHY.) IT WON'T HURT A THING & SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A BIG PAIN TO CHANGE.

JOHN

**Classic Heartbeat** · 07-15-2010, 12:11 PM

It is more just a matter of what you prefer. Personaly I would find a set of v-8 engine brackets and move the engine forward. Thats just me though. I don't like looking under the hood and being able to tell at a glance that the truck is an original in-line truck. To have the motor centered more in the engine bay looks better to me also. It is a bunch of work to move it but worth the effort and cost to me.

WES

07-11-2010, 11:12 AM	#1
mikey531 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Exeter, NH Posts: 794	Should I or not? I have been arguing with myself for about a year now on whether to move my engine forward a little. It is very close to the firewall and I think it is because some previous owner used the 6 cylinder mounts on the 350. I have decided I do want to move it, so what is the easiest way to solve my problem? Thanks ! Attached Images

07-11-2010, 01:43 PM	#2
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,772	Re: Should I or not? - Get a pair of V-8 frame mounts and put them in the forward holes. Then you will have to shorten the shift linkage rod, move the shifter pivot bracket on the frame, move the trans crossmember forward, find a longer driveshaft, re-bend the trans cooler lines, adjust or lengthen the throttle rod, lengthen the exhaust pipe or pipes, maybe shorten the radiator hoses, and lengthen the heater hoses, and fuel line from the tank and a few other things I forgot... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 07-11-2010 at 01:45 PM.

07-11-2010, 01:49 PM	#3
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Should I or not? if you have a lazyman rubber line from pump to carb put a metal fuel line in b4 the fire __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY Last edited by cdowns; 07-11-2010 at 01:52 PM.

07-11-2010, 03:12 PM	#6
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Should I or not? i didnt say you had rubber fuel line did i?? __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

07-11-2010, 05:25 PM	#8
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Should I or not? If it works, don't fix it. The jobs always turn into more than you think they will. Something will break, and all of a sudden you are spending more time and money than you thought. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

07-11-2010, 05:26 PM	#9
Shyguy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 2,436	Re: Should I or not? We did not want to change the length of the driveshaft so when we transplanted a 454 into my truck that previously had a 350 we had to just let the 454 settle in and drill holes in the frame. Don't forget the lower bolt hole will either have to be drilled or the area welded. __________________ '67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465. '75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435. '77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck. '92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.

07-14-2010, 04:58 PM	#10
mikey531 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Exeter, NH Posts: 794	Re: Should I or not? I guess I have talked myself out of moving the engine. I seem to remember something about a smaller cap HEI dist cap? Anyone else remember? Thanks

07-14-2010, 05:39 PM	#11
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,862	Re: Should I or not? Ive seen the smaller hei dizzy caps but I dont remember where. Skip Whites maybe? e bay, Hmmm __________________ 1967custom

07-14-2010, 11:29 PM	#12
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,772	Re: Should I or not? - The smaller ones have a separate coil instead of the coil being in the cap. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

07-15-2010, 04:17 AM	#13
Lippyp English Chevy Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shropshire, UK/ Lot, France Posts: 1,848	Re: Should I or not? I have exactly the same problem to the point that I can't fit an HEI in due to it hitting the firewall. In the end I've bought a pertronix conversion kit for the twin point mallory that was in there and one of their coils and will live with it where it is for the moment. __________________ Phil '67 C10 long fleet. 350/TH350, 4 bbl Carter, K&N, Dual exhaust, loads of stuff coming soon 2001 S10 Blazer Daily Driver, bone stock 4 door 4x4 with manual transmission

07-15-2010, 11:50 AM	#14
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	Re: Should I or not? ACTUALLY... FROM A TRACTION & HANDLING POINT OF VIEW (YOU 'LL PROBABLY NEVER NOTICE IT THOUGH) YOU'RE BETTER OFF HAVING YOU'RE MOTOR (CENTER OF GRAVITY) AS FAR BACK AS YOU CAN COMFORTABLY LIVE WITH. ( IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD REASON TO GIVE ANY OF YOU'RE BUDDIES THAT ASK WHY.) IT WON'T HURT A THING & SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A BIG PAIN TO CHANGE. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

07-15-2010, 12:11 PM	#15
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: Should I or not? It is more just a matter of what you prefer. Personaly I would find a set of v-8 engine brackets and move the engine forward. Thats just me though. I don't like looking under the hood and being able to tell at a glance that the truck is an original in-line truck. To have the motor centered more in the engine bay looks better to me also. It is a bunch of work to move it but worth the effort and cost to me. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys



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