Few questions on power steering - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

kev2809 · 08-26-2010, 06:54 AM

I'm trying to clean up a little under the hood since I'm replacing my motor. my 67 suburban already came with ps, but the motor is not original. did 67 already have ps in our trucks? I would like to replace my pump since I'm cleaning up the pulley and bracket. also, my steering box has crud piled on it. is there a way to tell if it works? and how can i figure out what year this stuff came out of if its not stock?

Sammy · 08-26-2010, 09:07 AM

In 67 power steering for trucks was something new. Very, very few even ordered it for trucks. Afterall $25 or $30 worth of options was considerable when most were paying house payments of $60 or $70 a month. What was installed was power assist in 67. Slightly different than the later years. Best to get a pic of what they looked like. More than likely you have the later model stuff installed. Take a few pics to determine what you have on your truck. I remember my Dad paying an extra $8 for an AM radio installed in 69. That was more than our electric bill and water bill combined.

Shyguy · 08-26-2010, 12:15 PM

The '67 used a power assist power steering system and they are real easy to tell from others because of the ram that is used on the steering underneath.

It was an option so not a lot of trucks had it. It seems most people don't like the system and get rid of it and go with a newer setup.

kev2809 · 08-26-2010, 07:29 PM

pics would help lol

the only ones i have are right when i took it off. heres the front and back of the pump..

the fluid was still in the pump, is there a way to tell if the pump any good. i can clean this one up and paint it if i can figure out if it is still good!

kev2809 · 09-07-2010, 09:45 PM

anyone?

chevy283 · 09-07-2010, 09:53 PM

I'd just try it to see if it work myself.

kev2809 · 09-07-2010, 10:01 PM

is the only way to just simply bolt it up and try it? honestly, i think i would rather just buy a new one since (from what i seen at oreilly) they are only about 40 bucks. i just want to make sure the new one is the right one. its gonna get painted, and installed so i really dont have room to return it lol

**too much stuff** · 09-07-2010, 10:02 PM

I have a pic of a 67 setup on the WIW part of the board. An original should look like that.

Andy4639 · 09-07-2010, 10:06 PM

You maybe able to take it to a pump motor repair shop and they maybe able to give you some insight on it.
Check this link out it shows one being rebuilt on here.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

kev2809 · 09-07-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by too much stuff

I have a pic of a 67 setup on the WIW part of the board. An original should look like that.

hmm, that shaft that the pulley goes on looks longer than mine...the space between the pulley and the actualy pump case

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639

You maybe able to take it to a pump motor repair shop and they maybe able to give you some insight on it.
Check this link out it shows one being rebuilt on here.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

this one looks similar..

i thought 67 did not come with power steering...hmm. i really dont want to to leave it up to the guys at oreilly lol. well, lets say i went and got a 71..just to say, what would be the difference in hooking it up? i have all my brackets and original pulley (to my pump), and the pulley nut. could i not just put my pulley on and brackets on and hook it up, or is there something (like hose fitting size) that would keep me from doing this?

Andy4639 · 09-07-2010, 10:36 PM

The pump wouldn't be anything except to get the right hoses for it. The steering sector of say a 71 is completely differant. It would be a easy swap and a lot more parts in junk yards to work with also.

This is a 71.

kev2809 · 09-07-2010, 10:42 PM

hmm, so the steering box has to match too? maybe i can snap some pics tomorrow when i get off (if its not raining) and maybe we can figure out the year...mine is real dirty and has loads of gunk on it though, so maybe it wont help lol

Andy4639 · 09-07-2010, 11:03 PM

The 71-72 steering sector and pumps can be bought at parts stores. The mounting of them is a little more envolved because of the frames being differant but can be done.
Any good NAPA parts store can make the hoses you need.

kev2809 · 09-07-2010, 11:24 PM

hmm, so my best bet is to take mine in, check out a few different models, and take the closest one to mine. then have the hoses made?

and if so, what year ranges are they? 67-70, 71-72, and 73+?
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Andy4639 · 09-08-2010, 01:00 AM

Some later model units 77-78 to are a direct bolt in as well I've been told.

I swapped my Steering Gear for one out of an '85 and it was a direct bolt up.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=419482

kev2809 · 09-08-2010, 10:37 PM

great, lol. i figure i will just take it in and try to match it up, then when i need the hoses i will take the old ones in and try to match those too lol

08-26-2010, 06:54 AM	#1
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Few questions on power steering I'm trying to clean up a little under the hood since I'm replacing my motor. my 67 suburban already came with ps, but the motor is not original. did 67 already have ps in our trucks? I would like to replace my pump since I'm cleaning up the pulley and bracket. also, my steering box has crud piled on it. is there a way to tell if it works? and how can i figure out what year this stuff came out of if its not stock? __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

08-26-2010, 09:07 AM	#2
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Few questions on power steering In 67 power steering for trucks was something new. Very, very few even ordered it for trucks. Afterall $25 or $30 worth of options was considerable when most were paying house payments of $60 or $70 a month. What was installed was power assist in 67. Slightly different than the later years. Best to get a pic of what they looked like. More than likely you have the later model stuff installed. Take a few pics to determine what you have on your truck. I remember my Dad paying an extra $8 for an AM radio installed in 69. That was more than our electric bill and water bill combined. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629" Last edited by Sammy; 08-26-2010 at 09:07 AM.

08-26-2010, 12:15 PM	#3
Shyguy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 2,436	Re: Few questions on power steering The '67 used a power assist power steering system and they are real easy to tell from others because of the ram that is used on the steering underneath. It was an option so not a lot of trucks had it. It seems most people don't like the system and get rid of it and go with a newer setup. __________________ '67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465. '75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435. '77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck. '92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.

08-26-2010, 07:29 PM	#4
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering pics would help lol the only ones i have are right when i took it off. heres the front and back of the pump.. the fluid was still in the pump, is there a way to tell if the pump any good. i can clean this one up and paint it if i can figure out if it is still good! __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

09-07-2010, 09:45 PM	#5
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering anyone? __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

09-07-2010, 09:53 PM	#6
chevy283 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: wilson oklahoma Posts: 367	Re: Few questions on power steering I'd just try it to see if it work myself. __________________ 65 c10 tore apart 70 c10 305/350th

09-07-2010, 10:01 PM	#7
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering is the only way to just simply bolt it up and try it? honestly, i think i would rather just buy a new one since (from what i seen at oreilly) they are only about 40 bucks. i just want to make sure the new one is the right one. its gonna get painted, and installed so i really dont have room to return it lol __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

09-07-2010, 10:02 PM	#8
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,790	Re: Few questions on power steering I have a pic of a 67 setup on the WIW part of the board. An original should look like that. __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

09-07-2010, 10:06 PM	#9
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Few questions on power steering You maybe able to take it to a pump motor repair shop and they maybe able to give you some insight on it. Check this link out it shows one being rebuilt on here. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1 __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

09-07-2010, 10:36 PM	#11
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Few questions on power steering The pump wouldn't be anything except to get the right hoses for it. The steering sector of say a 71 is completely differant. It would be a easy swap and a lot more parts in junk yards to work with also. This is a 71. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

09-07-2010, 10:42 PM	#12
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering hmm, so the steering box has to match too? maybe i can snap some pics tomorrow when i get off (if its not raining) and maybe we can figure out the year...mine is real dirty and has loads of gunk on it though, so maybe it wont help lol __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

09-07-2010, 11:03 PM	#13
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Few questions on power steering The 71-72 steering sector and pumps can be bought at parts stores. The mounting of them is a little more envolved because of the frames being differant but can be done. Any good NAPA parts store can make the hoses you need. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

09-07-2010, 11:24 PM	#14
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering hmm, so my best bet is to take mine in, check out a few different models, and take the closest one to mine. then have the hoses made? and if so, what year ranges are they? 67-70, 71-72, and 73+? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

09-08-2010, 01:00 AM	#15
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Few questions on power steering Some later model units 77-78 to are a direct bolt in as well I've been told. I swapped my Steering Gear for one out of an '85 and it was a direct bolt up. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=419482 __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

09-08-2010, 10:37 PM	#16
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,178	Re: Few questions on power steering great, lol. i figure i will just take it in and try to match it up, then when i need the hoses i will take the old ones in and try to match those too lol __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]



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