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11-28-2010, 10:35 PM | #1 |
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1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
Hello all,
I was over removing some stuff of of a 1-ton tonight, and I noticed the A arm bushings are greaseable metal units. Does anyone happen to know if the A arms are the same dimensions/triangulation, between 1/2 ton, and 1 ton? I didn't think about checking the shaft length or the O.D. of the bushings while I was there, but I think the O.D. was smaller than my rubber ones, Ill have to measure and see if I can just put the metal assembly's in my A arms tomorrow, but I just thought I would ask. I have to replace the A arm bushings coming up anyhow, reason I am thinking about swapping them over, it will probably ride a little rougher, but I imagine the suspension would have a bit more positive feel. The sway bar is getting swapped over, btw. Thank you. |
11-29-2010, 12:26 AM | #2 |
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Re: 1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
73-91 1-ton bushings are the equivalent of pre-73 a-arm bushings.
The bushings cannot be interchanged between the specific year a-arms as the attachment method is different (screw-in for all pre 73; press fit for post 73 1/2 ton; screw in for post 73 3/4 & 1-ton). The a-arms will interchange (73-87 a-arms can be swapped to a pre-73 truck; pre-73 a-arms can be swapped to a post 73 truck). The post 73 1-ton a-arms have a larger lower BJ which means those 1-ton lower arms have a larger lower BJ 'hole' vs their 1/2 ton counterparts.
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11-29-2010, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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Re: 1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
3/4 ton also has a larger ball/joint.
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11-29-2010, 01:06 AM | #4 |
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Re: 1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
SCOTI, thank you very much for your reply, that's very informative, and much appreciated.
If you dont mind clarifying a few more things for me, I'd be very grateful. Im guessing the upper ball joints interchange, as in use 1/2 ton on the 1 ton A arms, since you said they could be swapped back and forth, but I'm curious about that lower ball joint you mention. Does the larger lower post 73 ball joint have a bigger pin/taper on it that goes into the spindle on the 1 ton? I imagine so, but am not 100%. So if I'm thinking right, I can use the pre 73, and post 73 A arms, and bolt on a 1/2 ton ball joint to the top, but for the lowers I should look for pre 73 so that I can use a 1/2 ton lower ball joint? Or is there a lower ball joint for the bigger hole of the post 73's that work with the 1/2 ton spindle? Does the lower sway bar mount the same on pre and post, or do I need to just drill holes in the pre 73 lower A arms for the sway bar bushing straps? Sorry for so many questions. Thank you again. Edit: thank you too, KQQL IT. I was typing while you posted. Last edited by Dru; 11-29-2010 at 01:10 AM. |
11-29-2010, 10:00 AM | #5 |
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Re: 1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
Taper on the lower BJ's is larger for 3/4 & 1-tons as is the physical mounting hole diameter. The only 1/2 ton spindle that would work is the later 88-98 spindles which would also require swapping to 88-98 brake parts.
Another thing to note is the steering stops on the a-arms will be slightly different because they were designed for different spindles.
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11-29-2010, 06:24 PM | #6 |
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Re: 1-ton bushing or A arm in 1/2 ton?
I got to thinking there has to be more ways to basically to convert a 3/4 or 1 ton to a 1/2 ton, I'm just kind of doing it in reverse, then realized searching for converting the lugs might yield better results, and came across a company mentioned here on the forums that makes drop spindles which use the 3/4 ton ball joints, and allow to run a 1/2 ton 5 lug hub and brakes.
Early Classic Enterprises http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog....ry=Drop%20Kits Since I dumped a big block in my truck, and read while searching also that the 3/4 ton springs are heavier, I figure I could cut a coil off, along with the 2 1/2 inch dropped spindles, and that should give me a firmer lower ride than using the small block springs that I have in there now, with dropped spindles, which I had originally planned to add in the future Thanks again. Last edited by Dru; 11-29-2010 at 06:25 PM. |
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