The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2011, 03:52 AM   #1
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
jag ifs

i did a search and no other threads on this subject so i thought id tho this out to all the budget builders. i did alittle searching on other forums and i decided to go with a jag clip in my non chevy, 1960 dodge truck. now the the questions will be is price? (the clip itself rebuild parts and what have ya) i got my clip at the local u-pull it for $100. sometimes by looking on CL or ebay you mite be able to find a whole car for a decent price, and they have a nice irs system also. main rebuild parts, bushing, balljoints and such are about the same in price as anything else you have to rebuild, but the steering rack is abit spendy. a key thing is nice they have the same 4.75 wheel bolt pattern as a chevy, but part of the hub will have to be machined down alittle to clear a standard chevy wheel (around .060 from what i read).
now the years that are best are the like from 70-86 xj's. track width is 59"+/. the jag clip is a bolt on and rubber isolated, about 30" +/- on the outside mounting of the clip. which you can install it the same way on your stock frame or trim the crossmember down and weld it in or weld brackets to bolt in solid. either way you go with you mite have to do alittle trimming on the stock front crossmember of your frame. with my stock frame it does have a slight up and down and in and out frame rails (similar to the 60 and up chevy truck frames). now i have in place with with welded brackets and bolted in but not totally done yet, i need to set the cab and front clip back on to see if i like where its sitting at as far as height. but at this point i have about a 4-5" drop with out all the body and m/t weight. so a few pics for now ( sorry not the best tho) but gives ya the idea of the clip in my frame.
any ?'s i will try to help out the best i can.


Name:  SANY0486.jpg
Views: 4961
Size:  55.0 KB

Name:  SANY0487.jpg
Views: 1921
Size:  55.8 KB

Name:  SANY0488.JPG
Views: 1124
Size:  107.6 KB

Name:  SANY0490.jpg
Views: 1180
Size:  59.7 KB
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2011, 03:56 AM   #2
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
Re: jag ifs

also i will be making upper shock mount off the crossmsmber either in front or behind the upper control arm using shorter shocks, but woul ddoing thay till i decide on the m/t combo
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2011, 02:56 AM   #3
NZSquare
Registered User
 
NZSquare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Queenstown
Posts: 132
Re: jag ifs

Cool, Ive seen it done a couple of times in Nz on early ford trucks etc, nice and tidy with rear mounted rack.

Only issues Ive seen are the fairly savage angles on the steering universals and pretty major camber gain at height with the short upper arms, but thats only an issue if you're running bags. Guys here use the jag rear ends alot to.
NZSquare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 AM   #4
vintagesteel
Registered User
 
vintagesteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: higginsville, mo
Posts: 1,601
Re: jag ifs

My best friends father-in-law just bought a 53 chevy post with this done. I had never heard of using a Jag FRONT. What are the benefits of this front end over say a camaro/nova?

Last edited by vintagesteel; 01-09-2011 at 01:43 AM.
vintagesteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2011, 01:51 AM   #5
vintagesteel
Registered User
 
vintagesteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: higginsville, mo
Posts: 1,601
Re: jag ifs

The 54 post I have has a camaro subframe and he is wanting to replace his chassis with mine (mines getting a complete custom build frame) because he doesn't like the way the jag front sits. I didn't know if the jag was cheaper or just different so that would be the reason this guy used it.(I would say by the sounds of my friends car, it had to be free. The guy made the speaker box out of peg board!) Like I said, I had never heard of using this before (of course I'm a paint/body guy)

Last edited by vintagesteel; 01-09-2011 at 01:53 AM.
vintagesteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2011, 02:33 AM   #6
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
Re: jag ifs

well as for the benfits of the jag clip
rack steering
no reason to cut up the stock frame(for most apps)
can be welded or bolted it(no messing with rad support)
replacement parts are no expensive then a nova/ camaro(except for the rack itself)
standard chevy bolt pattern 4.75 (but hub does need to be machined to fit the standard chevy wheel/ralley)
i paid $100.00 for the complete unit cut out
(unit price wise to me was cheaper then finding a nova/camaro clip now a days)
as far as it handling the weight of an older 50's car or truck is ok as the most jags weighed in at 3800# or better(my dodge 3400#)
and maybe a few others if i think about more

downfalls
the price of a rack if needed
having to machine the hubs but i actually like the look of the jag wheel dressed up abit(see pic- chevy truck trim ring and on old plymouth i had in the garage)
hooking up the rack to you column of choice on the account of the angle of the rack
and building bracket for the shock mount

anyway its to the builder and what they can afford or willing to pay for good usable parts

Name:  SANY0496.JPG
Views: 1031
Size:  84.1 KB
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2011, 02:46 AM   #7
Pop's C-10
Registered User
 
Pop's C-10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: memphis
Posts: 2,537
Re: jag ifs

nice...you going with a jag irs
Pop's C-10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2011, 01:07 PM   #8
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
Re: jag ifs

Pops if you are refering to me , im not sure on the jag irs yet as i will be using the truck to haul and tow with it
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com