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Old 01-30-2011, 01:28 PM   #1
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69-70 GRILL question

Below, is a picture of the passenger side headlight area of my 70 with it's new "reproduction" outer grill. The other picture is of a driver's side 69 with what was said to be an "original" outer grill - my question is, did only the original 69-70 outer grills have the two bars that went all the way across from the parking light to the headlight ? Some of the people on this website have said they have original outer grills that have the bars that stop before they get to the headlight ( like my new one ). Does anyone know the REAL answer ?
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:30 PM   #2
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

We just went through this in the last couple of weeks. I will see if i can find the thread and bring it up for you. Eric
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

Go to the parts section under "parting 69 chevy" There will be some info there. Sorry, i don't know how to post links.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:59 PM   #4
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

69s had the two bars all the way across and the 70s are like yours IIRC, also I heard the 69s ran into the 70 trucks. Hope this helps.
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:12 PM   #5
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

I thought the 69's might have run into the 70's also - here are a couple of pictures from the dealer brochures - 69 and 70 both with the bars going all the way across.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:11 PM   #6
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

My 70 was built in November of 1969 so maybe it qualifies as an "early" truck. This is a picture of the grill that came on my truck when I bought it in 1996 ( with dents and scratches ) The rest of the truck looked very original at that time. ( except for the ugly mirrors )
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:26 PM   #7
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

From everything I have seen posted and available on the 69-70 trucks...

1969 Outer:
The center lines extended past the turnsignals to the headlight bezels; only the lines were painted black

1970 Outer:
The center lines extended past the turnsignals to the headlight bezels; only the lines were painted black

GM Repop Outer:
The center line stopped just to the outside of the turnsignals, just short of the headlight bezels. The coloring on my GM repop grill is black within the lines and between the lines on the section 'outside' the turnsignals

Aftermarket Repop Outer:
The center line stopped just to the outside of the turnsignals, just short of the headlight bezels. The coloring on the repop grill depends on the manufacturer; could be as described above under the GM repop or just the lines themselves.

1969 Inner:
Solid 'egg crate' style all the same color

1970 Inner:
'Egg crate' style w/ recessed center sections with a mixture of silver and black coloring

All GM/Repop Inner:
The aftermarket and GM inners all mimic the '70 style; a '69 inner is not available from either NOS or repop
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:21 PM   #8
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

I have a 1970 c20 and it's bars go all the way to the head light. I don't know if it's original or not but my fenders were original.. I think. They are the gold poly that the cab floor and firewall are painted, which matches the build list on the inside of the glove box.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:25 PM   #9
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

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From everything I have seen posted and available on the 69-70 trucks...All GM/Repop Inner:
The aftermarket and GM inners all mimic the '70 style; a '69 inner is not available from either NOS or repop
Great write up and I agree with everything This should be one of the new FAQ items with pics added for reference!
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

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Great write up and I agree with everything but think you switched this last line...the repops are the 69 egg crate style...not the 70 style with the lines....

And once corrected...that should be one of the new FAQ items with pics added for reference!
Not disagreeing, just questioning...

I know that the inner in my '69 in a GM replacement and it has the recessed sections which are painted silver like the '70s.

Digging for another thread where we covered this same question. I will update my post... just want to find the other thread first.

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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=parting+chevy (Posts 19-25; Post #1 shows the '69 inner)

Couldn't find the link I was looking for.
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

I just noticed in the picture when blowing it up that the grille is in fact the 70 style...just not painted that way...I have always seen people say that the 70 grilles aren't reproduced and when looking at the repops they looked like simple "egg crate" style to me but obviously on closer review they have the raised portions....
So you were 100% correct and I will edit my original post to avoid confusion. Continue to live and learn!




Here's pics from my old thread where I had some repro and NOS stuff for sale...
note the repro inner at the bottom of the picture here (has the raised areas but painted all silver)


and this was an original 70 inner painted black with the raised silver areas in it.
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

Awesome post J!

Your inner NOS inner had the recessed areas, which is described in the first picture you posted as a '70.

Why couldn't GM have made this easier for us?
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

See the recessed areas circled in red: (I couldn't make out the one on the far right... need glasses )

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Old 01-31-2011, 08:42 PM   #14
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Re: 69-70 GRILL question

So, a 70 outer grill should have the two bars going all the way from the turn signal to the headlight bezel ?
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