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02-09-2011, 08:11 PM | #1 |
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2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
This may not be realistically possible, but is there a way to change my 2wd chevy C10 over to a symmetrical AWD system like subaru by just changing out the transfer case, drive shaft, and rear diff? all while keeping my 350 with the possibility of upgrading later to a bigger newer motor?
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02-09-2011, 08:29 PM | #2 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
Yes, there is…
….buy a Subaru or a BMW X-drive car as a second vehicle. Seriously, the closes you could realistically come to is to retrofit the GM truck Autocrap 4x4 system and even that wouldn’t be worth the hassle.
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02-09-2011, 08:40 PM | #3 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
my 01 has the autotrac. its quite useless. because you either NEED 4x4, or dont.
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02-10-2011, 10:10 PM | #4 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
Alright, I was just curious and throwing around some different ideas. But thought I'd ask because you guys know a lot more than I do about it
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02-10-2011, 10:31 PM | #5 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
It probably is pretty pointless, but if you wanted to pursue it, you could look into the AWD systems used on the Bravada, Typhoon and Syclone. Not sure how they would work with your existing diffs, and how much torque they would be able to take, but there are is lot of intereset in the Typhoons and Syclones, so I'm sure you can find a specific forum and get a lot more information.
I love how my Subaru outback feels on wet and loose gravel roads, and I think it would be fun to have a truck that drove that way as well. it's only time and money... i say go for it. EDIT: Just noticed you're in Alaska... yeah you need it. Really do it. Shawn Last edited by Zeke's Garage; 02-10-2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason: Holy crap! Geography! |
02-10-2011, 10:51 PM | #6 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
ive been thinking about AWD for a while and why could you just cut down a Silverado SS frame to fit the body of a short bed?? it has to be able to be done?
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02-10-2011, 11:30 PM | #7 | |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
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I have driven the bravado with it's Awd and it doesn't compare to subaru's Awd, audi's or bmw's. You are right I do live in Alaska and right now drive my 2wd year round with about 9 months of snow, so I thought why not take advantage of the snow and try to convert the Awd system to my benefit. I think having a truck that handled like a Subaru would be a pretty cool project Posted via Mobile Device |
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02-10-2011, 11:30 PM | #8 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
I agree that the auto 4wd on the newer chevys doesn't work all that great. I was at a dead stop in the snow in my 01 tahoe and set it to auto and all that happened was the rear tires spun, then I hit the 4wd button and it then I drove without spinning a tire. The 99 explorer that I used to have had the auto 4wd and it worked great it would drive around in 2wd mode until the rear had any tire spin and then it would instantly lock into 4wd. I had that in a foot of snow before with out ever setting it to full time 4wd and it didn't get stuck.
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02-10-2011, 11:36 PM | #9 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
Also I just wanted to mention that the 4wd setups on the newer chevys (at least on mine, not sure on others) isn't symmetrical, meaning it doesn't have a differential in the transfer case. what this means is that if you leave it in 4wd in high traction situations and try to turn it makes lots of noise and strain on the drivetrain, and also has less than desirable handling. The upside is that it has better traction slick conditions.
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02-10-2011, 11:38 PM | #10 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
With enough skill and money anything is possible, too bad I don't have enough of either to do a job like that! How well does the awd setup in an SS work in the snow?
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02-10-2011, 11:39 PM | #11 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
If it were me, I would pull the complete drivetrain from a Denali or Escalade.The AWD and 6.2 in my wifes Denali pulls that beast around like mad.
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02-11-2011, 01:35 AM | #12 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
Thanks for the help guys, we'll see where it goes from here but it will be quite a project
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02-11-2011, 01:38 AM | #13 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
My 78 3/4 ton 4x4 is an allwheel drive. Wouldnt ya know haha. np203 transfer case. Drive slugs on the front wheels.
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02-11-2011, 01:42 AM | #14 |
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Re: 2WD to Symmetrical AWD?
How does the Awd aspect of it handle? Lemon or better than a straight forward 4wd?
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