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Re: The Project Havoc....
Great build, hope you get the problems figured out!
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Re: The Project Havoc....
Thought I'd let you know if you haven't already talked to One Piece Products about the side windows SGI wants you to replace that they have a letter from the manufacturer stating that it is certified safety glass. Maybe SGI would accept that?
I was thinking about buying them as well for my truck so I contacted One Piece Products about this, they said they would e-mail me this letter but didn't. I know you already found some other glass but if SGI accepts this letter maybe it would be one less thing to change. |
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Re: The Project Havoc....
man I was getting excited skimming through the thread... Hope all ends well.. Good luck buddy!!!
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I thought I would pass on the info that one piece window provided me once I requested it. I hope this helps as you might have to get them to send you info on your specific glass kit.
It was stated to meet or exceed the following for the tint glass system: 1) ASTM C 1036-85 standard specification for flat glass 2) ASTM C 1048 -85 standard specification for heated treated flat glass 3) ANSI Z97 1-84 for safety glazing materials 4) 16 GFR 1201 C II CPSC safety standard for architectural glazing materials
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Re: The Project Havoc....
Looks like your issues have created a bit of a storm. http://nitroimage.proboards.com/inde...ay&thread=3506
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Nice job nuke I asked to join ... I dont know what I can do to help being from the states and all but Ill do what I can..
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Re: The Project Havoc....
Same here.
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Re: The Project Havoc....
It does make you want to give up!
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Hey Guys. Well over the last week I have been told good news but then at the same time it has been un certain news. Everything surrounding this situation with inspections is a cloudy grey area.
last week me and mike ( a friend) sat down in regina and had a chat. it was a good one, he raised a few points that seemed really good. This in turn gave me some hope for the future. After that I sat down with Ciaran ( Inspection Manager) and had a chat with him. This seemed to work things out a bit, but in the end I am still wondering. I know he has to cover his arse, and everything, but I need a strait answer. Ok, as for the plates on our vehicles, this is what I am being told. If it is a 58 and down, it is a modified vintage vehicle, and at this time you can build your own frame and do basically whateve you want to it because it is excempt from all laws, as long as it is safe. now the grey area, if your vehicle is 30 years or older it is classified as a vintage vehicle, BUT: this is not entirely true, it is a vintage vehicle if it is left stock and untouched. but if you modify it as I have done to my truck they no longer classifiy it as a vintage vehicle but as a type A vehicle, which is your every day driver. So the laws are now different. In mike's case with his camaro, he now currently has antique plates on it and runs a package policy on it, this makes him excempt from the normal laws, as he has been told. Well i asked about this today at work and this is not the case as they say. Ciaran told me that it is just a classification and not actually binding, the vehicle should be registered as a normal car and then have to go through the inspection station. In Ciran's eyes this car should not be licensed in such a way. Here lies the problem, you have two different ppl with the same problem, me with a pro-touring truck and mike with a camaro set up for drag racing. he has been told by a SGI Inspector and has gotten written confirmation from him that his vehicle is deemed a modified vintage vehicle and has now gotten written proof of this, where as me, they say that this is not possible and I am classified as a normal car and have to follow those guidlines. This is where another problem lies, WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG. Also, they have a problem with my truck because I have built my own suspension, I ama journeyman bodyman, 3rd year heavy duty mechanic, and have aticket for welding. A person is not allowed to build their own suspension components, however you can BUY them from a manufacturer, and they do come with HEIM joints from an aftemarket supplier, why would those be legal when my heim joints are QA1, with DOM tubing as the sleeves. HMMMM, something is not jiving here. So i can buy aftermarket suspension with heim joints, of unknown quality, but I can not put some of my own on a vehicle. wow. In the aftermarket industry you have Heims, on everything from steering to link bars, to sway bars, to shift linkage. on of the most common pieces out there. There has to be some jsutice here with this. either they are legal to use, or they are not legal, PERIOD! I have dealt alot with the aftermarket parts in my days now, and half of the stuff is the worst welding I have ever seen!!!! I do not trust it at all, half the time I end up rewelding it all so it is safe. Why could we not have a station that we could get our own parts saftied at, inspect our welds, inpect the quality, but no, SGI does not have the resources to do this, even thou we are owned by the public and work for them!! I mentioned to him how the cops and inspectors have waited outside of car shows to pull cars off of the roads or go through them after a car show, He told me I was lying, so I brought up a few instances, he agreed then that this has happened, what ever happened to the integrity system, when did ppl start not to care about others. We bring out cars out for the public to enjoy and raise money of things for children and charities, and what do we get in return!!! BENT OVER and a tow truck ride somewhere!!! I believe that maybe it would not be a bad idea for SGI to have a inspection station set up at some of the car shows and we can freely bring our vehicles to the station and have them looked at, this would raise awareness on some unsafe items on our cars, and maybe a few things that should be changed, but we are doing this for ourselves and not them, in such a case there would be no tickets issued or warnings, NOTHIN at all. just some raised awareness and answers. I know that it is done at some shows in the states Being that I do work for the Gov't, change does take a very LONG time, and this could take years. but we all do have to do our part for this to happen!! nite.
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Re: The Project Havoc....
the cops here have sumething like a hanger law : it basicly makes everything deemed illegal punishable by law even if its within regulation
its been made to deal with things like a 2 feet man driving without being able to see over the steering , if the car is taxed insured an he has a licence they couldnt touch him now they can unfortunately cops can use that law as they see fit so if there looking for things they find it and you get a ticket anyway nice thing about the policeforce here the force is being payed out of the revenue of the written tickets , the actually give cops a quota to reach it can be a ticket for jaywalking riding youre bike in the park walking on the lawn or speeding (there favorite as it doesnt involve chasing people ) burglars rapist and people beating there wifes are not as importand as meeting there quotas hows that for lawinforcement ?
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i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts |
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I guess one of the things that bother's me the most is the fact that they are unable to classify my truck. When I first got pulled over, they told me it was a "MODOFOED VINTAGE VEHICLE" so I went by those guidelines when finding my facts I needed to know. Well that was not apparently right later on so it was then deemed a "VINTAGE VEHICLE", now the classification changes on it and so do the rules in a way. now just yesterday it is deemed a "TYPE A" vehicle and is apparently a everyday vehicle and has to be looked at as a newer vehicle and inspected as suck. All I can say is MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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make them put it in writing
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i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts |
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over here the age matters in therms of roadtax , cars older than 25 years are exempt
it allso matters in terms of (anti)smog regulations
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i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts |
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/modvehicleregs/
I'd reccomend any of our Saskatchewan members sign this!
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Ok so I got clarification on a few things. I was a little lost. My wife phoned Ciaran. They had a chat and things went very well, he is easy to deal with.
First, the vehicle classification. If it is a pre-58 then it is a modified vintage. If it is a 59 to 86 then it is a vintage only if it is untouched. Once a person modifies it, the label for it becomes a Modified Type A Vehicle. This means the vehicle still has to have the reflectors / components that it came with but some items may be changed. If a person can support the changes that they have made to their vehicle, and it betters your vehicle with documentation as to where it came from and its’ use (Automotive) then Ciaran or one Inspector can approve the items in use and exempt the vehicle. A Vehicle still needs all normal requirements such as the wipers/lights, etc, and so on that it came with. As for windows, inspection requires that they be made of a certain type of glass and SAE approved. There is only one place in Saskatchewan that I know of that can make such windows and that is Crystal Glass in Swift Current. Mine are the safty glass but not approved for use in Canada. So, beware when you buy windows from the United States. This whole situation that has taken place was cloudy on both sides. I have found out that Ciaran is good to deal with and that if you have any questions to contact him and he will try to help you out. I am trying to work with him the best I can for our hobby and get some clarification. I hope this information proves useful. This is my understanding of it so far, I could be wrong, but you never know.
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hmmm that sounds like you still need to make the changes , and that they where right in the first place allthough it was a bit hard to understand at first
unless you can find a pre 58 vin and registration for youre type of truck
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Yah, there is still changes to be made, Unfortunately I can not get around them with the mandates here, I either do them or don't drive Havoc. I know which I prefer. That is the crappy thing about up here, smaller area means they see us more!!! oh well. The pre vin thing = not gonna happen, not allowed to changed vins here. I wish
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Thought I would show You guys another truck that I had started, I built 80% of this thing by hand, I did not do the mud work on it, just the metal work. there is a few pics elsewhere, I never got to see it completed and low and behild here it was at the car show!!! FINISHED!!! Looked really good and got a First place in it's class also> Kinda cool I thought!!
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The part of this that has become such a piss off is these safety regulations are not enforced with consistency. Or rather they are selectively enforced. You can put new paint and some chrome on a classic and become an immediate target. Yet there are literally tens of thousands of cars in this province that would fail our provincial inspection at a glance without closer inspection. You can drive around with cardboard or plastic taped to a window for years and never get pulled over. Put one piece windows in a classic and it is an issue because the glass has not gone through the CSA process. Quality custom fabricated trailing arms are a no-no but it is perfectly acceptable to drive a car around with suspension permanently bottomed out because the mounts have rusted out, the springs broke or what have you. Never mind the condition of the brakes or seat belts.
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Re: The Project Havoc....
Down here they really don't mess with the older vehicles, I've been driving around the last few weeks bedless with the plate in the back window and they haven't messed with me. Hell, once I went to make a quick u-turn and ended up sideways with the tires spinning right in front of a highway patrol and he just pulled up and yelled at me for it then drove off. The ones that they crack down on are the imports, after the fast and furious craze they would inspect and impound for any illegal mods. It has lightened up a bit now, but they still use minor infractions as probable cause for traffic stops then look for bigger things to do vehicle searches, arrests, etc. I hope that US doesn't get to the point that you are dealing with up there, but if it does I'm sure California will be the first place it happens.
Keep up the good fight, it sounds like you are making progress.
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