Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Vintage Windmills · 03-28-2011, 12:57 PM

Found this alongside a north dakota highway this weekend and couldn't believe I just stumbled upon a GMC 67 V6 Custom! They are aksing $2500. Said some guy offered them $500

Anyways, I am looking for a sheetmetal parts donor truck for my 67 GMC but figured this was too expensive. Tailgate is awesome and so is bed and pass fender but cab is shot. Its a neatly optioned truck though so I thougth I'd share. I didn't know you could get different valves on a 305 V6? Anyone know where this was built from the Vin? Looking for comments on options.

Vintage Windmills · 03-28-2011, 12:58 PM

Also this is the first 67 GMC I've seen with a SPID out of the last 10 I've looked at/been sent pics of.

Another question, wasn't the 326 the base tranny? Why is that on the spid?

**special-K** · 03-28-2011, 03:38 PM

Spids arerare on '67 GMCs. Not a bad truck except for the Dollar General mirrors and '73+ bumper. You say the cab is shot? Not sure about the transmission or what heavy engine valve is. Maybe something with crankcase breathing.

Tman · 03-28-2011, 03:45 PM

I was wondering what they wanted for that. I think ill go offer them $501, think they'll take it?

69sixpackbee · 03-28-2011, 03:53 PM

My guess would be sodium-filled exhaust valve stems.

Vintage Windmills · 03-28-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Spids arerare on '67 GMCs. Not a bad truck except for the Dollar General mirrors and '73+ bumper. You say the cab is shot? Not sure about the transmission or what heavy engine valve is. Maybe something with crankcase breathing.

Cab would need at least supports, floor pcs, rockers and corners. I didn't check visor, kickpanel or firewall areas. Figured I wasn't too interested at that price and I'd prefer a big back window. The 305 started instantly but was

like a chimney

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Originally Posted by Tman

I was wondering what they wanted for that. I think ill go offer them $501, think they'll take it?

Haha, I see you're not too far away. We've got a shop/storage in Emerado and my brother works on the other side of the metropolis of Emerado. I don't think it will sell too quickly for the asking price the way it was smoking unless someone doesn't notice the cab rust. I said it was too expensive given the condition figureing he'd throw out a price but he didn't. Its an owner consigned vehicle so the price will probably drop. Grille chrome was rusty too.

**truckster** · 03-28-2011, 05:43 PM

The 305 V6 is a great motor. It's got incredible torque and it's built like a diesel inside. It's not a high-revving or fast motor, but it can definitely tow. I had one in a 66 GMC that was a lot of fun.

The heavy-duty 305 V6 (I think all of the 67s had the heavy-duty motor) had valve rotators. They rotated the valves constantly while the engine was running to keep carbon buildup down.

69sixpackbee · 03-28-2011, 06:24 PM

....oops

**Tim Christian** · 03-28-2011, 06:51 PM

I have looked at a lot of 67 GMC's and I have to say this is the first SPID I have ever seen on one.

YBNORML · 03-28-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Christian

I have looked at a lot of 67 GMC's and I have to say this is the first SPID I have ever seen on one.

Why is that? I've never heard that before.

**Bob B.** · 03-28-2011, 07:55 PM

Wow, first '67 GMC I have even seen with a SPID label. Anyway, yes, heavy duty valves were an option on 305 V-6's. They were not sodium filled, they were stellite faced with hard seats pressed into the heads. All 351's were so equipped, but for some reason it was an option on 305's.

674x4ton · 03-28-2011, 08:12 PM

Are spids rare on 67 Chevy trucks? I bought 2 trucks and both are missing spids? It look like they never had one put on.

**LockDoc** · 03-28-2011, 08:25 PM

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Are SPID's on GMC's unusual in Canada? Maybe it is a Canadian built truck. Just a thought since it is up that way...

LockDoc

factorystock · 03-28-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

Another question, wasn't the 326 the base tranny? Why is that on the spid?

No, the SM 318 3 speed non sychro 1 st gear was the base 3 speed. The SM326 was the optional fully synchro 3 speed.

C/10 King · 03-28-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

Also this is the first 67 GMC I've seen with a SPID out of the last 10 I've looked at/been sent pics of.

Another question, wasn't the 326 the base tranny? Why is that on the spid?

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Originally Posted by special-K

Spids arerare on '67 GMCs. Not a bad truck except for the Dollar General mirrors and '73+ bumper. You say the cab is shot? Not sure about the transmission or what heavy engine valve is. Maybe something with crankcase breathing.

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Originally Posted by Tim Christian

I have looked at a lot of 67 GMC's and I have to say this is the first SPID I have ever seen on one.

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Originally Posted by 674x4ton

Are spids rare on 67 Chevy trucks? I bought 2 trucks and both are missing spids? It look like they never had one put on.

Aha! That explains it, when I bought my 67'

I received a box loaded with original paper work, owners manual, Protecto plate, receipts, registrations, salesman business card, ect. I couldn't understand why the spid was missing and everything else was kept.

Vintage Windmills · 03-28-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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Are SPID's on GMC's unusual in Canada? Maybe it is a Canadian built truck. Just a thought since it is up that way...

LockDoc

I wondered that too. The VIN is missing the 8th digit. There should be a letter between the D and C, which would indicate the build plant on other 67 GMC's.

**truckster** · 03-28-2011, 11:15 PM

Here's a site that talks about the GMC V6:

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/305V6.htm

#22 on the second page talks about the valve rotation. I guess it was optional on the E engine.

bruceman1968 · 03-28-2011, 11:39 PM

[QUOTE= The VIN is missing the 8th digit. There should be a letter between the D and C, which would indicate the build plant on other 67 GMC's.[/QUOTE]

Your right, does the vin plate have it on there?

Vintage Windmills · 03-29-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bruceman1968

Your right, does the vin plate have it on there?

I didn't check the vin plate.

Also this truck has power steering (probably ram assist) but must have been dealer installed as its not on the spid.

John Gilbert · 03-29-2011, 10:51 AM

My '68 GMC built 9/67 didn't have a Spid either.

hugger6933 · 03-29-2011, 12:36 PM

My 68 GMC does not have a sPID and I have always wondered why. Jim

Vintage Windmills · 03-30-2011, 06:07 PM

Ttt hoping some canadians see this and know about the vin and spid
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Legolas894 · 03-31-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

Ttt hoping some canadians see this and know about the vin and spid
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I think it might be Canadian built. the 9 in the GMC 15900 on the label could mean the Oshawa, Ontario plant. I have a '67 with an SPID in the glovebox. It's badged as a GMC 910 pickup. Built in Oshawa.

chewychevy67 · 03-31-2011, 12:47 PM

I dont believe that this is a Canadian truck. V6 was not available in Canada. These photos are from my 1967 Canadian 910-930 owners manual. it shows the engine sizes available and how to decode a Canadaian GMC VIN.

factorystock · 04-04-2011, 09:37 PM

This pickup reminds me of the 67 Chevy C-20 custom camper that had leaf springs. There were no option codes on both pickups, only the part numbers on the SPIDS. Leads me to believe these pickups might have been special ordered thru COPO. If it is a Canadian built GMC (910 emblems could have been removed when repainted), the V6 could have been a special order option.

03-28-2011, 12:57 PM	#1
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Found this alongside a north dakota highway this weekend and couldn't believe I just stumbled upon a GMC 67 V6 Custom! They are aksing $2500. Said some guy offered them $500 Anyways, I am looking for a sheetmetal parts donor truck for my 67 GMC but figured this was too expensive. Tailgate is awesome and so is bed and pass fender but cab is shot. Its a neatly optioned truck though so I thougth I'd share. I didn't know you could get different valves on a 305 V6? Anyone know where this was built from the Vin? Looking for comments on options. Attached Images __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

03-28-2011, 03:38 PM	#3
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Spids arerare on '67 GMCs. Not a bad truck except for the Dollar General mirrors and '73+ bumper. You say the cab is shot? Not sure about the transmission or what heavy engine valve is. Maybe something with crankcase breathing. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-28-2011, 03:45 PM	#4
Tman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Reynolds, ND Posts: 78	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID I was wondering what they wanted for that. I think ill go offer them $501, think they'll take it?

03-28-2011, 03:53 PM	#5
69sixpackbee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sabinal, Texas Posts: 1,706	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID My guess would be sodium-filled exhaust valve stems.

03-28-2011, 05:43 PM	#7
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,954	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID The 305 V6 is a great motor. It's got incredible torque and it's built like a diesel inside. It's not a high-revving or fast motor, but it can definitely tow. I had one in a 66 GMC that was a lot of fun. The heavy-duty 305 V6 (I think all of the 67s had the heavy-duty motor) had valve rotators. They rotated the valves constantly while the engine was running to keep carbon buildup down.

03-28-2011, 12:58 PM	#2
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Also this is the first 67 GMC I've seen with a SPID out of the last 10 I've looked at/been sent pics of. Another question, wasn't the 326 the base tranny? Why is that on the spid? __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6 Last edited by Vintage Windmills; 03-28-2011 at 01:02 PM.

03-28-2011, 06:24 PM	#8
69sixpackbee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sabinal, Texas Posts: 1,706	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID ....oops Last edited by 69sixpackbee; 03-28-2011 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Wrong post

03-28-2011, 06:51 PM	#9
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID I have looked at a lot of 67 GMC's and I have to say this is the first SPID I have ever seen on one.

03-28-2011, 07:55 PM	#11
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,348	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Wow, first '67 GMC I have even seen with a SPID label. Anyway, yes, heavy duty valves were an option on 305 V-6's. They were not sodium filled, they were stellite faced with hard seats pressed into the heads. All 351's were so equipped, but for some reason it was an option on 305's. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

03-28-2011, 08:12 PM	#12
674x4ton Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: st.joseph mo. Posts: 116	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Are spids rare on 67 Chevy trucks? I bought 2 trucks and both are missing spids? It look like they never had one put on.

03-28-2011, 08:25 PM	#13
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,645	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID - Are SPID's on GMC's unusual in Canada? Maybe it is a Canadian built truck. Just a thought since it is up that way... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

03-28-2011, 11:15 PM	#17
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,954	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Here's a site that talks about the GMC V6: http://www.6066gmcguy.org/305V6.htm #22 on the second page talks about the valve rotation. I guess it was optional on the E engine. Last edited by truckster; 03-28-2011 at 11:18 PM.

03-28-2011, 11:39 PM	#18
bruceman1968 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,549	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID [QUOTE= The VIN is missing the 8th digit. There should be a letter between the D and C, which would indicate the build plant on other 67 GMC's.[/QUOTE] Your right, does the vin plate have it on there? __________________ CHEVY/GMC VIN DECODERS Last edited by bruceman1968; 03-28-2011 at 11:41 PM.

03-29-2011, 10:51 AM	#20
John Gilbert Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Placentia, California Posts: 567	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID My '68 GMC built 9/67 didn't have a Spid either.

03-29-2011, 12:36 PM	#21
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,279	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID My 68 GMC does not have a sPID and I have always wondered why. Jim



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03-30-2011, 06:07 PM	#22
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID Ttt hoping some canadians see this and know about the vin and spid Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

03-31-2011, 12:47 PM	#24
chewychevy67 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here Posts: 5,537	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID I dont believe that this is a Canadian truck. V6 was not available in Canada. These photos are from my 1967 Canadian 910-930 owners manual. it shows the engine sizes available and how to decode a Canadaian GMC VIN. Attached Images

04-04-2011, 09:37 PM	#25
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,380	Re: Stumbled across a 67 GMC, interesting SPID This pickup reminds me of the 67 Chevy C-20 custom camper that had leaf springs. There were no option codes on both pickups, only the part numbers on the SPIDS. Leads me to believe these pickups might have been special ordered thru COPO. If it is a Canadian built GMC (910 emblems could have been removed when repainted), the V6 could have been a special order option.

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