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Old 09-20-2011, 06:16 PM   #1
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Static or Bags

I would like some help deciding if i should bag my new longbed truck or do a static drop. I have a 700r4 with a big block. i do what to use the new shock relocation kit from No Limit and a few of their other parts but i cant decide on springs or bags
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:57 PM   #2
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Re: Static or Bags

I hear ya. We're swapping the JT to air soon, droped with springs has a tough time when we go to powder coat or the welding shop with a load of gas bottles. I like Early Classics springs the best, but we are working on getting some made, but it's a ***** getting what we want, and I'm just not willing to go to china to be price competetive. Either choice, use the best parts and you'll be happy.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:56 PM   #3
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I hear ya. We're swapping the JT to air soon, droped with springs has a tough time when we go to powder coat or the welding shop with a load of gas bottles. I like Early Classics springs the best, but we are working on getting some made, but it's a ***** getting what we want, and I'm just not willing to go to china to be price competetive. Either choice, use the best parts and you'll be happy.
As far as the best parts go thats why i want to use alot of your parts but again im not sure how nice a ride is with bags is and i dont know how well it will perform if i push the truck hard
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:00 PM   #4
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Re: Static or Bags

oh and can you send me the link to JT i cant seem to find it
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #5
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I would like some help deciding if i should bag my new longbed truck or do a static drop. I have a 700r4 with a big block. i do what to use the new shock relocation kit from No Limit and a few of their other parts but i cant decide on springs or bags
Do both. Static drop the front & swap bags into the rear so you can be low & adjust for capacity when desired.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:08 PM   #6
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You should bag that longbed!!
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:44 PM   #7
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Static drop. All you gotta' do is blow a bag or air line (even if you have spare parts with you) and you'll be messing up your best clothes and pissing off your wife/girlfriend as she sits along side the road, instead of sitting in a nice restaurant sipping her favorite adult beverage (with an umbrella in it) looking forward to snuggling up to you in the hot new movie that just opened at the local movie theater. Static drop...it's an easy choice.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:00 AM   #8
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Static drop. All you gotta' do is blow a bag or air line (even if you have spare parts with you) and you'll be messing up your best clothes and pissing off your wife/girlfriend as she sits along side the road, instead of sitting in a nice restaurant sipping her favorite adult beverage (with an umbrella in it) looking forward to snuggling up to you in the hot new movie that just opened at the local movie theater. Static drop...it's an easy choice.
Build it right & it's not an issue. A crappy built static drop can leave you just as stranded as a crappy built air drop.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:49 AM   #9
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Re: Static or Bags

I used standard 6 cylinder coils up front, 2.5" drop spindles, and bagged the rear because it is cheap, easy , and adjustable. I made a mistake and got bags that are too big for the rear but will be perfect up front so I will bag the front later and go to the proper 9000 series tapered bag to get the rear ride like it should be. (using too large a bag make you run 20-25lbs of pressure) that is too low, you need to be in the 50psi range to get the ride correct and also pay attention to knowing where you need to be in the middle of the bag (kind of like setting the sag on a motorcycle) a air bag has a height it is supposed to run at, it has a minimum and a max height also....pay attention to these things and you can get it right and not cost a fortune........I have seen the firstone tapered bags for sale for as little as $140.00 per pair, hook them up in place of your rear coils , connect with a schrader valve and at least you can adjust the stance of your truck......without buying 5 sets of coils, or cutting them off to adjust them.

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Here is how my truck sat before 2.5" drop spindles:

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...7_nS2QZT6-A-LB

Here is how it sits with 2.5" spindles and the rear end adjusted low:

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...1_9qGFfrc-A-LB

Here is how I have decided to run it now:

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G..._RGs9Wb7-XL-LB


After getting it to the proper stance and clearance because I have the air bags in the rear it made my look easier to achieve and was not really that expensive, would really have cost less if I had read the threads and got the smaller bags. I will reuse the bags I have now on the front of this truck or another so I am not really out anything but the ability to adjust the rear at will is very nice. Kieth

Here is a shot of the bags and cage I am currently running in the rear, see the comments at the bottom of the picture to see what we are going to do next.

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...4_HrvtMh3-A-LB
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:59 AM   #10
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Re: Static or Bags

Thats impossible to answer with out more information. We need to know how low you want to go, and what your plans are before we can offer "educated" advice.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:29 PM   #11
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Or maybe i should say "I should bag that longbed" since it's sitting on the trailer in front of my house.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:45 PM   #12
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Haha..figured you knew the guy well...

I vote bag it...as long as you can afford it I can't think of any other reason not to.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:15 PM   #13
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Re: Static or Bags

its getting bagged
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