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DBear · 11-26-2011, 11:39 PM

Is it possible for a 67 or 68 chevy 4x4 1/2ton to not have a K in the vin#?
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Longhorn Man · 11-27-2011, 12:25 AM

not if it is the original VIN and originallt a 4X4

**special-K** · 11-27-2011, 07:11 AM

The K "defines it" as a 4wd. The VIN is like a finger print or better yet,DNA

cdowns · 11-27-2011, 08:19 AM

lots of frankenstiens and vehicles with phony and switched VIN #'s it pays to do your homework b4 spending cash

68gmsee · 11-27-2011, 10:42 AM

These trucks are over 40 years old and there have been a lot of mechanics that have swapped engines, rear ends and made other changes when needed -like grabbing a cab or bed from one truck and swapping it to another. As a matter of fact, I'm in the market for a cab for my 69 right now and I don't know what I will wind up with.

I see a lot of trucks on craig's list where the seller says it's a certain year but the front end definitely shows a different year.

feller · 11-27-2011, 07:49 PM

what if it were converted? like a napco? i have read but do not remember all the other things napco did besides a transfercase and front axle?? i may be out of line just a thought. but the old cab switcharoo would also explain

SS Tim · 12-02-2011, 10:27 PM

The few I remember seeing were coded as expected. The factory model codes were CS or CE for conventional cabs and KS or KE for 4X4 trucks. Later trucks sometimes used an additional C like CCE or CKE (think Chevrolet Conventional Eight).
On a "period" conversion the build model and VIN would reflect the "as built" configuration. There should also be an upfitter certification plate/sticker on later trucks.

ChevLoRay · 12-02-2011, 11:42 PM

I think the GM vehicles with NAPCO conversions ended with the '59's. GM offered the '60's with 4WD.

If you want to check and compare VIN's, look at the one on the driver's side frame rail, in front of the firewall and compare it with the one on the cab. If the digits on the VIN don't match in both places (frame rail and cab), then you have your answer. It's prpbably a replacement cab on a 4WD chassis. Chassis are different animals for the two applications, i.e., they don't interchange...bare 2WD frame for bare 4WD frame...different part numbers.

*72lb4x4* · 12-03-2011, 01:46 AM

I think the parent company of NAPCO survived and did conversions into the late 60's, mostly on medium duty trucks, but perhaps on light trucks as well.

11-26-2011, 11:39 PM	#1
DBear Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 864	is this possible? Is it possible for a 67 or 68 chevy 4x4 1/2ton to not have a K in the vin#? Posted via Mobile Device

11-27-2011, 12:25 AM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: is this possible? not if it is the original VIN and originallt a 4X4

11-27-2011, 07:11 AM	#3
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,858	Re: is this possible? The K "defines it" as a 4wd. The VIN is like a finger print or better yet,DNA __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-27-2011, 08:19 AM	#4
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11-27-2011, 10:42 AM	#5
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: is this possible? These trucks are over 40 years old and there have been a lot of mechanics that have swapped engines, rear ends and made other changes when needed -like grabbing a cab or bed from one truck and swapping it to another. As a matter of fact, I'm in the market for a cab for my 69 right now and I don't know what I will wind up with. I see a lot of trucks on craig's list where the seller says it's a certain year but the front end definitely shows a different year.

11-27-2011, 07:49 PM	#6
feller Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: madison, IN. Posts: 484	Re: is this possible? what if it were converted? like a napco? i have read but do not remember all the other things napco did besides a transfercase and front axle?? i may be out of line just a thought. but the old cab switcharoo would also explain

12-02-2011, 10:27 PM	#7
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: is this possible? The few I remember seeing were coded as expected. The factory model codes were CS or CE for conventional cabs and KS or KE for 4X4 trucks. Later trucks sometimes used an additional C like CCE or CKE (think Chevrolet Conventional Eight). On a "period" conversion the build model and VIN would reflect the "as built" configuration. There should also be an upfitter certification plate/sticker on later trucks. __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

12-02-2011, 11:42 PM	#8
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: is this possible? I think the GM vehicles with NAPCO conversions ended with the '59's. GM offered the '60's with 4WD. If you want to check and compare VIN's, look at the one on the driver's side frame rail, in front of the firewall and compare it with the one on the cab. If the digits on the VIN don't match in both places (frame rail and cab), then you have your answer. It's prpbably a replacement cab on a 4WD chassis. Chassis are different animals for the two applications, i.e., they don't interchange...bare 2WD frame for bare 4WD frame...different part numbers. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

12-03-2011, 01:46 AM	#9
72lb4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,427	Re: is this possible? I think the parent company of NAPCO survived and did conversions into the late 60's, mostly on medium duty trucks, but perhaps on light trucks as well.



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