Having a bad day

[1tonchevy]

today is not my day to work on my truck.

on the to do list today was put in oil and temp sensors so i could get my dash working again (easy enough right) wrong lol

temp sensor is way smaller then the hole in the t stat housing and needed an adapter (trip to the parts store) so finally got that in.

moved on to oil press sensor. pulled old one (but had to pull the distributor to do so :S ) got it out then went to put the new one it (doesn't fit too big) so off to the parts store got the right one.

came back went to install it.... wont fit because it hits on the intake (at this point I'm not pleased) so i go get a 40 degree elbow,try and screw it in wont work so i go get an extension and an adapter. get back goes together like butter (yay things are starting to go back together!)

so now its time to put the distributor back in (i didn't pull it out just up and slightly out of the way) so I'm re installing it it wont seat back down in so me being the forgetful person that I am I forgot to make sure the oil pump shaft was lined up so got that all figured out and now its all back together and wont fire!

My buddy's coming over to help me look it over but i just wanted to share my day :s


TGIF!

[1tonchevy]

so looked it over and its not getting spark now :S

[vegas80step]

and this is what we do for fun.....

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by vegas80step

and this is what we do for fun.....

lol or because we "love" them hahaha


so why would it go from having spark to no spark when i didn't touch the "spark" parts lol

[vegas80step]

Originally Posted by 1tonchevy

lol or because we "love" them hahaha


so why would it go from having spark to no spark when i didn't touch the "spark" parts lol

No clue.. I'm sure someone will jump in here with some good ideas.. I would have to assume the distributor didn't make it back in right???

[paximus]

Originally Posted by 1tonchevy

lol or because we "love" them hahaha


so why would it go from having spark to no spark when i didn't touch the "spark" parts lol

Very likely that distributer needs some tweeking, that is why youre not getting a spark, unloosen the bolt on it and turn it as if you were setting your timing JUST A LITTLE AT A TIME and then try and crank it, you should get a spark and then adjust the timing accordingly. When you pulled it you got everything out of whack, that thing has to be put back EXACTLY the way you removed it or the result will be no spark, at least in my experience.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by vegas80step

No clue.. I'm sure someone will jump in here with some good ideas.. I would have to assume the distributor didn't make it back in right???

i alligned the oil pump to the distributor shaft then set TDC on 1 and all of a suddun no spark cap,rotoe and coil are all 1 and half years old.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by paximus

Very likely that distributer needs some tweeking, that is why youre not getting a spark, unloosen the bolt on it and turn it as if you were setting your timing JUST A LITTLE AT A TIME and then try and crank it, you should get a spark and then adjust the timing accordingly. When you pulled it you got everything out of whack, that thing has to be put back EXACTLY the way you removed it or the result will be no spark, at least in my experience.

ok ill tackle it tomorrow im already cleaned up for a night out with my gf and daughter. any more ideas would be great thanks the more the better!

[463]

is there 12 volts on your power wire?

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by 463

is there 12 volts on your power wire?

what ones that? the thick red one going into the distributor?

[jhngardner367]

Did you,by any chance,pull one of the wires,when you lifted it? It doesn't take much to pull off the feed wire.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by jhngardner367

Did you,by any chance,pull one of the wires,when you lifted it? It doesn't take much to pull off the feed wire.

the more i think about it the more I think that's a strong possibility

[463]

Originally Posted by 1tonchevy

what ones that? the thick red one going into the distributor?

yes thats the one. make sure the other wires are pluged in too.
when you get it started make sure that you oil psi.

[1tonchevy]

so I checked the power its good (IDK if its 12V as i don't have a volt meter) but it has power, ALL plugs are in tight,I turned the dizzy a little bit at a time to see if i could get spark and no spark.... any ideas?

[463]

you could pull or lift the distributor cap and make sure that the rotor is turning when you do turn the engine over with the starter. i take it that you still have the stock distributor with the points.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by 463

you could pull or lift the distributor cap and make sure that the rotor is turning when you do turn the engine over with the starter. i take it that you still have the stock distributor with the points.

yeah stock set up ok ill try that.

[1tonchevy]

oh side note i forgot the Rotor was loose so i tightened it (i have no idea how it got loose) then this all started happening

[hatzie]

Are you sure there's no spark. It could just be firing way out of time.
I have an inductive spark tester Lisle 19380. They make great gearhead gifts.
You can use a timing light to check for spark the same way. It's just more setup.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by hatzie

Are you sure there's no spark. It could just be firing way out of time.
I have an inductive spark tester Lisle 19380. They make great gearhead gifts.
You can use a timing light to check for spark the same way. It's just more setup.

im using the old school trick screw driver in the plug boot near metal (lol works every time)

[1tonchevy]

the rotor is moving with the motor is being cranked.

[hatzie]

Time to go back and check everything.
The cap has been off;
Is the pickup plug from the base entirely latched onto on the cap?
Is the Pink wire plugged into the BAT slot and not the TACH slot?
Is the carbon button worn down?
Is the rotor burned through the center?
Is the module OK? You can get em tested at a parts store. If it's bad replace the coil cap rotor and module. Module failures are usually from the coil layer shorting internally.

BTW I use the inductive pickup spark tester because I heard that it's possible to screw up the module in the distributor base with the screwdriver method. If it's a tall tale then... Hey. I got a cool tool.

The Distributor has been out of the block/intake manifold. If you have spark and no start re-check the rotor alignment. When #1 actually is at TDC does the rotor point to the #1 plug wire?
It's possible to install it 180 out. The zero mark on the balancer lines up with the pointer twice in 360degrees of cam rotation so you could've set it for #6 TDC not #1. Yes. I've done it.

[hatzie]

See this thread too. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/gm-i...uts-38462.html

[Wrecked1982]

the oil sender you changed does it have feature like no oil pressure no fire/no start whatever.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by Wrecked1982

the oil sender you changed does it have feature like no oil pressure no fire/no start whatever.

i dont think so its just the regular bell shaped one.

[motornut]

I'd take the cap off check the wire ends make sure none frayed ,caught,cut
make sure the plug "plugs" in to the cap,those blades may move off to the side and looking from the top may not see it miss
and if the tac wire grounds it won't fire