1966 and later park brake system - layout with photos - no cross member

[Woogeroo]

Interesting, I didn't know they reproduced that part, if that itty bitty photo is what I think it is.

-W

[LostMy65]

So, is transmission placement the only reason for the 66+ parking brake cable routing?
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[ChiefRocka]

I believe so.

A manual is just hung from the the front (or rear 'engine' crossmember).

Great write BTW Woog !!!

I believe someone sells an e-brake kit for the 65 and older guys who want to run an auto tranny.

However, running a '66 and later system is much simpler and neater.

One thing I did on my old truck, is retain my old e-brake crossmember, and fabricate and add a tranny mount to it.

[Woogeroo]

LostMy65,

pretty much... or if you significantly lower the truck, but still want the park brake.

A lot of folks will use a different locking mechanism inside the truck tho'.

Also, if the system is missing from the truck, it's a little easier to find the stuff for the '66-'72 style.

Nothing wrong with the original style. You can just drop it down lower under the newer transmission and keep using it. It's all about what you have when you get started.

There is no reason I'm aware of to remove it if you have the original style if you are running it at a stock ride height or... not z frame/c notch low.

-W

[64shortbox]

Woogeroo, Thanks for the great write up! I plan on installing a Cadillac foot operated E Brake unit in my truck and this will help out immensely!

[LostMy65]

Thanks for the replies, guys.
I do plan on switching to Auto on my 65, but I don't plan on going any lower than it is now.
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[Woogeroo]

The photo and caption in post #5 shows the original brake mechanism, lowered under a later style transmission. People have done it different ways.

Post # 1, has a link showing how Jim Z modded the location of his original 1960-1965 style brake mechanism.

-W

['65Burb]

If you're using a stock e-brake handle, has anyone found a tricky little switch that an idiot lite could be wired to that says, "Hey stupid, your emergency brake is on"?

[64shortbox]

YES!!! Here's the link to an excellent write up with pics by jocko. That's what I love about this site and the people on it, everyone is more than willing to share their information.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=419932

[LostMy65]

Originally Posted by 64shortbox

YES!!! Here's the link to an excellent write up with pics by jocko. That's what I love about this site and the people on it, everyone is more than willing to share their information.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=419932

I forgot about that excellent thread.
Something I definitely want to do.
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[Woogeroo]

That is handy modification there... but if yer park brake is properly adjusted and holding the vehicle, you will figure it out quick enough when you can't go!!



-W

[Woogeroo]

Those of you with 1966 model trucks... or those that have done the swap... feel free to post your photos of your bits and pieces of your layout.

I know several people have asked about the park brake handle to cable area in the cab.

Just add them in here so they stay together.

-W

[TBONE1964]

I would like the 66 park brake cable set up but leave my 64 pull handle. Is this possible? has anyone done it? I can't give up my 64 handle as it is a very cool piece of the interior.

Thank you in advance,
Tom

[Woogeroo]

1965 Chevrolet C10.

pull/release brake handle under the dash/steering column.

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This photo the cable going through the floor of the cab, underneath the steering column.




The bottom two photos shows the cable where it attaches to the brake handle lock mechanism under the dash/steering column.

I hope this helps.

If any of you other folks have photos of your 1966-1972 style park brake systems, feel free to add them in here. That way the folks who are pondering doing this swap will have a better idea of what parts they need and how it all goes together.

FYI: this isn't a plug for their parts, but the LMC Truck 60-66 catalog has a pretty good list/exploded view of the parts for this brake system in their catalog. You can check it out on their website.

Many other vendors sell some of the bits and pieces, so check around and do some research.

As always, check the Review Board here on the forum before buying any parts from anywhere.

-W

p.s. some of you may notice the bolt with the nut sitting by the cable. I think the bracket was an aftermarket part. I do not recall if the bracket was for the '65 c10 or the later truck... however, when I got it all set up, the cable sheathing itself would not stay secure in place, therefore nothing worked. You can see where the coating is torn from this movement.

This was my good ol' boy solution. I used a bolt as a spacer to snug things up.

a fellow old truck pal(64fleetside on the stovebolt page) had this to share : I've had a couple slip too, woog-I've usually removed the clamp and smacked it w/a hammer, then it fit tighter.

p.s. update/edit 01/03/2013 - a link to a thread here on the forum with up close shot of the original park brake mechanism for 60-65

[Trap62]

I have read and reread this post several times and I'm still not sure if I'm grasping the concept in its entirety. Specifically, do all cables (front, inter and rear) have to be for a 1966? I know the inter cable has to be a 1966 and I know I have to replace the brackets that tie the inter and rear cables together. Its the front and rear ones that I'm not sure of and I have to replace the ones that I have now. I have a 62 SWB and the price difference is about $35 dollars between the 62 and 66 H/W. Also, LMC 67-72 catalog shows the Parking Brake Cable Guide Kit (34-3113) that has the fixed rod along with two hangers and two brackets and I was wondering if this would work in the 1966 setup? Thanks!

[Reyals Bemus]

I was just looking into converting my '64 to the '66-up e-brake system. Like Trap62, I noticed LMC does indeed carry that cable guide (#34-3113). It seems they now sell everything you need to convert an older truck.

Anyone know what's up?

[LostMy65]

Originally Posted by Reyals Bemus

I was just looking into converting my '64 to the '66-up e-brake system. Like Trap62, I noticed LMC does indeed carry that cable guide (#34-3113). It seems they now sell everything you need to convert an older truck.

Anyone know what's up?

Do you have a link?

[Trap62]

Originally Posted by LostMy65

Do you have a link?

Not sure if this link will work -- if not, go to lmctruck.com and then to the 67-72 truck on-line catalog and then to page 148.

34-3113 Park Brake Cable Guide Kit

Cheers!

[kieth]

Here is a link to a chasis sans body with the e brake cables painted silver in my truck. Makes it easier to see:

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...XPbLB&lb=1&s=A

rear cable routing on trailing arms:
http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...rzRrs&lb=1&s=A

e brake cable routing and mounting drivers side frame:
http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...jFJD&lb=1&s=X2

[Woogeroo]

Howdy folks...

... so I was changing my oil yesterday afternoon and while I still had it up on the ramps and had some daylight left, I decided to take some more photos of the e brake system on my truck.

Maybe it will help some folks out sometime.



Some of the photos turned out pretty good, but some of them are kinda blurry... but I think you can get the gist of things anyway.

-W

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park/emergency brake handle under the dash. The cable runs sort of under the column into the floor.



Where the cable attaches to the handle/mechanism.



Another shot showing the handle/cable.



up close shot of the mechanism... it was a clear photo, so I uploaded it!



This is underneath the truck, driver side, where the cable comes out of the floorboard...

[Woogeroo]

underneath the truck, driver side, at the top of this photo is the cable coming out of the floor board and at the bottom you can see where it goes into the driver side frame rail.





not a good shot, but this one turned out the best, this is where the cable comes out the inside of the frame rail.



The threaded end is the last part of the cable, this is how it attaches to the 'intermediate cable' as the parts vendors call it. The 'intermediate cable' comes in two lengths, one for a short wheelbase, the other for a long wheelbase. This is the 'half moon' looking part I referred to earlier in this thread. The 'intermediate cable' goes into that part, then the threaded end of the cable goes in to keep it from coming out. When you pull the brake handle, it pulls the cable here, putting tension on the brake shoes in each rear drum.




another photo of the end of the brake handle cable, where it attaches to the 'intermediate cable'.




*bad photo*

This is on the passenger side, this is the end of the 'guide rod', where the 'intermediate cable' feed through that 'half moon' shaped part. The guide rod feeds through a hole on the passenger side frame rail.

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-W

[Woogeroo]

This is the guide rod, where it feeds into the hole, passenger side frame rail, inside shot.




This is the end of the guide rod and where it feeds into the passenger side frame rail, outside shot.




driver side, this is one of the hooks that goes into the frame rail and guides the 'intermediate cable' to the rear wheel.




passenger side, 'intermediate cable' going through the hole in the cross member.





driver side, 'intermediate cable' going through the hole in the cross member.

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-W

[Woogeroo]

pass. side, cross member... cable going through.



driver side, cross member, cable going through.



driver side, trailing arm. When I installed this system, I had to drill the holes here to locate that bracket. This bracket is where the 'intermediate cable' meets the cable that goes into the back of the brake drum and actually pulls on the parking lever. There is an existing hole farther down the arm, but it really bunched up the 67-72 style cable that I had coming out of the back of the brake drum.



another blurry shot... FYI : originally this bracket was held on by really big rivets, which you can buy and use if you have a blowtorch to heat 'em up with... then you bang on 'em with a hammer to flatten out the ends... or 'peen' it over as the saying goes. I didn't have a torch and wasn't thrilled about heating them up another way and having to handle them, so I just used grade 8 bolts, hardware and lock washers.



where the cable goes into the back of the drum on the driver side.

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-W

[Woogeroo]

passenger side, cable going through the cross member, a different angle.



passenger side, trailing arm, bracket and cables.



a good shot of the passenger side trailing arm setup and where it all goes.



cable going into the back of the passenger side, rear drum.



an okay shot of the driver side trailing arm setup and how it goes together.

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Well, that is all folks... I hope it comes in handy sometime.



-W


p.s. ... and remember folks, visit your 1960-1966 FAQ Index where handy threads like this are listed and linked! If this link does not work in the future, the 60-66 index is maintained as a 'sticky' post at the top of the 60-66 message board forum.

p.p.s. also, this information and these photos are on my web log, here. My web log is also linked in my signature line, below.

[T Smith]

Thanks a bunch Woogeroo! Great pictures of the entire system! I'm saving this for future reference as repairing my parking brake is on my to do list!