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PurdueSD · 10-09-2012, 07:52 PM

There is not a whole lot of information on these coilover ifs for AD chevys out there floating about the internet. Trust me i know! So i figured i would do my part and document my progress and maybe get some help and reassurance along the way. This is my first build to this extent and thus my first ifs install.

Anyways, made my decision and less than a month later had the kit sitting in my garage after working with Justin and getting a pretty good deal.

Fast forward to today. Got my parts unboxed and started some preliminary mock up. My intensions before all these ifs shenanigans started, was to send my axle out to be dropped and thus i had removed my axle without marking the centerline on the frame. A little digging and i found the centerline of the stock axle to be 20.594" from the end of the frame rails or 18.281" from the center of the shack le hole in the frame (care of the factory assembly manual). Here is a shot mocked in place...

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PurdueSD · 10-09-2012, 08:12 PM

Well it didnt take long for me to stumble into my first head scratcher. Mocked into place and centered where the stock axle used to sit... Something doesnt seem right.

In front and behind the crossmember wher it welds to the outside of the frame i have about a consistent 5/32nds gap.

On top of the frame raile i have between 3/8ths to almost 1/2" at the worst spot.

All this coupled with the fact the frame rails pinch towards the front....leads me to believe the cross member was ment to be install further rearward.
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Wvgearhead · 10-09-2012, 08:14 PM

We put a Scott's coil over ifs on my buddies 46 Chevy. A really nice piece, I almost pulled the trigger on their air ride ifs. Ended up with a tci. If I was to do it over, mine would have rolled on Scott's. After seeing one in person, I was sold.

55dude · 10-09-2012, 08:44 PM

call Scotts and ask!

Scottshotrods · 10-09-2012, 09:09 PM

Call us at the shop at (805)485-0382

Justin

PurdueSD · 10-09-2012, 09:10 PM

Thanks for the call Justin!

Russell Ashley · 10-10-2012, 09:49 AM

Anyone know if you could put a suspension like that into a 57 if you removed the front clip but left the engine in place?

Scottshotrods · 10-10-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell Ashley

Anyone know if you could put a suspension like that into a 57 if you removed the front clip but left the engine in place?

Yes you can, but on our weld in unit you will have to box in the frame where the front suspension goes.

One more option for you we do have a bolt in unit for your truck!!

If you have more questions call us at the shop at (805)485-0382

Justin

meter swinger · 10-10-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

One more option for you we do have a bolt in unit for your truck!!
If you have more questions call us at the shop at (805)485-0382

Justin

Any pics of this unit anywhere Justin?
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Scottshotrods · 10-10-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by meter swinger

Any pics of this unit anywhere Justin?
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We will be putting up a new link on this today showing the frontend and listing all the other bolt in frontends we have now for TRUCKS.

Justin

jephs422 · 10-10-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by meter swinger

Any pics of this unit anywhere Justin?
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Here's a few images of our 48-54 Bolt in. Sorry for the lack of detailed shots. Camera is having some technical difficulties. I'm working on it.

Remember, we have a weld in or bolt in for this truck.

Scottshotrods · 10-10-2012, 05:44 PM

We also have the 55-59 chevy truck bolt in ifs.This can be ordered with bags or coil-overs.

Justin

meter swinger · 10-10-2012, 06:03 PM

D@MN...
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**CHIZZLER** · 10-10-2012, 07:35 PM

hey purdue.my scotts croosmember was the same way.we just added some plate steel to fill the gap on the crossmember and burned it in.

PurdueSD · 10-10-2012, 08:14 PM

Yep thats what Justin and I spoke about last night. So today I (crudely) took some 1/8th inch plate i had laying around the shop and mocked it up into place on both side. Should work out really well.

Chizz- did you offset the the plate so there was two weld joints? Or did you cut it 4" wide so it was slush with the crossmember?

**CHIZZLER** · 10-10-2012, 08:27 PM

flush with crossmember.then ground down a little.good luck.

**CHIZZLER** · 10-10-2012, 08:31 PM

what are your plans with the rest of the truck?any pics of truck?

PurdueSD · 10-10-2012, 10:42 PM

6.70 firestone ww on black oe style wheels
donor suburban tbi 350/700r4/gas tank
Explorer rear axle
Suburban booster/ master/ pedal assy
Freshen up interior
New chrone and cream grille
Couple misc body panels painted to match for now
Some pinstriping

Plan to patch a couple bad spots here and there and blend them back to match.
(outside stays old and worn for a couple years)

Ive spent alotta time over the years tearing stuff to the ground and never gotten to enjoy driving one. That is the main goal on this one... or so i keep telling myself as i tore this chassis to the ground. Body can come back off later. It will be super safe and really fresh and clean underneath.

My build thread is in my sig below, it kinda shows some of my progression.

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**CHIZZLER** · 10-10-2012, 11:50 PM

found your build.nice work.i have about 1000 miles on my burb and the scotts ifs and 4-bar are quality stuff.chizzler

98layinframe · 10-11-2012, 11:34 AM

What's the track width on that Scott's setup?
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Scottshotrods · 10-11-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 98layinframe

What's the track width on that Scott's setup?
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60 1/2 inches wheel mount to wheel mount.

We can build them at different track width if need be.

Justin

dcmalone · 10-11-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

We will be putting up a new link on this today showing the frontend and listing all the other bolt in frontends we have now for TRUCKS.

Justin

Is the link up yet?

Scottshotrods · 10-11-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dcmalone

Is the link up yet?

You can go the suspension forum you will see the detail info.For pricing now you will have to call us at the shop and we have a nice package for this bolt in for your truck.I can tell you it is NICE

Justin
(805)485-0382

98layinframe · 10-11-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

60 1/2 inches wheel mount to wheel mount.

We can build them at different track width if need be.

Justin

Thanks. At that standard width, do you know if my 0 offset (4.5" backspace) wheels will tuck up inside the wheel wells with plenty of clearance to lay it out on air ride?
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Scottshotrods · 10-11-2012, 06:25 PM

You will be fine

Justin

10-09-2012, 07:52 PM	#1
PurdueSD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: the middle Posts: 296	Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 There is not a whole lot of information on these coilover ifs for AD chevys out there floating about the internet. Trust me i know! So i figured i would do my part and document my progress and maybe get some help and reassurance along the way. This is my first build to this extent and thus my first ifs install. Anyways, made my decision and less than a month later had the kit sitting in my garage after working with Justin and getting a pretty good deal. Fast forward to today. Got my parts unboxed and started some preliminary mock up. My intensions before all these ifs shenanigans started, was to send my axle out to be dropped and thus i had removed my axle without marking the centerline on the frame. A little digging and i found the centerline of the stock axle to be 20.594" from the end of the frame rails or 18.281" from the center of the shack le hole in the frame (care of the factory assembly manual). Here is a shot mocked in place... Posted via Mobile Device

10-09-2012, 08:12 PM	#2
PurdueSD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: the middle Posts: 296	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 Well it didnt take long for me to stumble into my first head scratcher. Mocked into place and centered where the stock axle used to sit... Something doesnt seem right. In front and behind the crossmember wher it welds to the outside of the frame i have about a consistent 5/32nds gap. On top of the frame raile i have between 3/8ths to almost 1/2" at the worst spot. All this coupled with the fact the frame rails pinch towards the front....leads me to believe the cross member was ment to be install further rearward. Posted via Mobile Device

10-09-2012, 08:14 PM	#3
Wvgearhead Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Charleston Wv Posts: 159	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 We put a Scott's coil over ifs on my buddies 46 Chevy. A really nice piece, I almost pulled the trigger on their air ride ifs. Ended up with a tci. If I was to do it over, mine would have rolled on Scott's. After seeing one in person, I was sold.

10-09-2012, 08:44 PM	#4
55dude Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tacoma wa. Posts: 1,037	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 call Scotts and ask!

10-09-2012, 09:09 PM	#5
Scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oxnard ca Posts: 2,201	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 Call us at the shop at (805)485-0382 Justin

10-09-2012, 09:10 PM	#6
PurdueSD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: the middle Posts: 296	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 Thanks for the call Justin! Last edited by PurdueSD; 10-09-2012 at 09:39 PM.

10-10-2012, 09:49 AM	#7
Russell Ashley Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga Posts: 2,648	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 Anyone know if you could put a suspension like that into a 57 if you removed the front clip but left the engine in place?

10-10-2012, 05:44 PM	#12
Scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oxnard ca Posts: 2,201	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 We also have the 55-59 chevy truck bolt in ifs.This can be ordered with bags or coil-overs. Justin

10-10-2012, 06:03 PM	#13
meter swinger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kennewick WA. Posts: 1,437	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 D@MN... Posted via Mobile Device

10-10-2012, 07:35 PM	#14
CHIZZLER SAVING ONE TRUCK AT A TIME Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sherwood oregon Posts: 1,141	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 hey purdue.my scotts croosmember was the same way.we just added some plate steel to fill the gap on the crossmember and burned it in. Attached Images __________________ 53-suburban (99% done) 40-pick up (99.9% done) 12-cc lb dually D-max (dd) 61-crew cab D-max "PAY LESS FOR WHAT YOU NEED PAY MORE FOR WHAT YOU WANT" 53 BURBAN BARN FIND:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=404091 1940 PROJECT MOON SHINE:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551088 1961 CREW MAX: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=6957999

10-10-2012, 08:14 PM	#15
PurdueSD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: the middle Posts: 296	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 Yep thats what Justin and I spoke about last night. So today I (crudely) took some 1/8th inch plate i had laying around the shop and mocked it up into place on both side. Should work out really well. Chizz- did you offset the the plate so there was two weld joints? Or did you cut it 4" wide so it was slush with the crossmember? __________________ My Lost and Forgotten build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442712

10-10-2012, 08:27 PM	#16
CHIZZLER SAVING ONE TRUCK AT A TIME Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sherwood oregon Posts: 1,141	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 flush with crossmember.then ground down a little.good luck. __________________ 53-suburban (99% done) 40-pick up (99.9% done) 12-cc lb dually D-max (dd) 61-crew cab D-max "PAY LESS FOR WHAT YOU NEED PAY MORE FOR WHAT YOU WANT" 53 BURBAN BARN FIND:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=404091 1940 PROJECT MOON SHINE:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551088 1961 CREW MAX: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=6957999

10-10-2012, 08:31 PM	#17
CHIZZLER SAVING ONE TRUCK AT A TIME Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sherwood oregon Posts: 1,141	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 what are your plans with the rest of the truck?any pics of truck? __________________ 53-suburban (99% done) 40-pick up (99.9% done) 12-cc lb dually D-max (dd) 61-crew cab D-max "PAY LESS FOR WHAT YOU NEED PAY MORE FOR WHAT YOU WANT" 53 BURBAN BARN FIND:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=404091 1940 PROJECT MOON SHINE:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551088 1961 CREW MAX: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=6957999

10-10-2012, 10:42 PM	#18
PurdueSD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: the middle Posts: 296	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 6.70 firestone ww on black oe style wheels donor suburban tbi 350/700r4/gas tank Explorer rear axle Suburban booster/ master/ pedal assy Freshen up interior New chrone and cream grille Couple misc body panels painted to match for now Some pinstriping Plan to patch a couple bad spots here and there and blend them back to match. (outside stays old and worn for a couple years) Ive spent alotta time over the years tearing stuff to the ground and never gotten to enjoy driving one. That is the main goal on this one... or so i keep telling myself as i tore this chassis to the ground. Body can come back off later. It will be super safe and really fresh and clean underneath. My build thread is in my sig below, it kinda shows some of my progression. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ My Lost and Forgotten build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442712

10-10-2012, 11:50 PM	#19
CHIZZLER SAVING ONE TRUCK AT A TIME Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sherwood oregon Posts: 1,141	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 found your build.nice work.i have about 1000 miles on my burb and the scotts ifs and 4-bar are quality stuff.chizzler __________________ 53-suburban (99% done) 40-pick up (99.9% done) 12-cc lb dually D-max (dd) 61-crew cab D-max "PAY LESS FOR WHAT YOU NEED PAY MORE FOR WHAT YOU WANT" 53 BURBAN BARN FIND:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=404091 1940 PROJECT MOON SHINE:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551088 1961 CREW MAX: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=6957999



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10-11-2012, 11:34 AM	#20
98layinframe Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 267	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 What's the track width on that Scott's setup? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 91 s10 - bagged bodydropped 4", 350/700R4, narrowed reared, cantilever rear air bag setup 1951 chevy 3100 - in build/acquiring parts process. Have full C4 Corvette suspension front and rear, tpi 350, 700r4, 18" torque thrust II wheels

10-11-2012, 06:25 PM	#25
Scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oxnard ca Posts: 2,201	Re: Scotts Hotrods IFS in my 51 You will be fine Justin

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