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Old 01-29-2013, 12:04 PM   #151
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Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work

Amazing! You repair stuff that most people don't even see and, if they did see it, would ignore.

My hat is off to you.

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Old 01-29-2013, 12:05 PM   #152
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The next step was to cut out the bed sides where the bed floor flange area needed replacing. The problem with that was there was a stamped section that would have to be replicated. We bought a bead roller and built a stand for it so we could remake the side panels to match the old ones. Making the replacement panels was pretty difficult since the bead is 1/4" tall and wanted to pull metal from the surrounding areas. That made for alot of distortion and it took me a few tries before I figured out how to make a useable panel. They're not perfect but they'll work.




I started by pre-stretching the area where the offset bead would be in our english wheel so there would be less distortion after rolling the bead.




After bead rolling the panel and straightening out the warpage.




The bead roller made square edges, and the original panels had rounded edges so I used the original panel as a dolly and hammered the new panel's edges round.




Stamping details matched up, ready to cut out the old panel and weld the new one in.









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Old 01-29-2013, 01:27 PM   #153
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Amazing! You repair stuff that most people don't even see and, if they did see it, would ignore.

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Thanks Steven, I try to make sure that the job will last a long time by taking care of all the problems I can find. Don't want the customer to have problems with rust coming back in a few years.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:59 PM   #154
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your a bad motor scooter ( slang )
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #155
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I gotta say WOW like everyone else. Great work and details and a great revival.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:09 PM   #156
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I gotta say WOW like everyone else. Great work and details and a great revival.
Thanks guys!


I had to do the same process all the way around to fix the bed sides.

Right front corner, I made it in two pieces.








The front half was a bit more work due to the channel at the corner. I cleaned out the rust and sprayed weld thru primer on the flanges and backside of the new panel.











Same thing on the left front corner.





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Old 02-07-2013, 01:12 PM   #157
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Both sides finished and welds ground down.






With that finished I rolled it outside and sanblasted the rusted areas.





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Old 02-07-2013, 01:22 PM   #158
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The owner had a local metal shop bend up a floor that's identical to the original's stamping pattern. It wasn't wide enough the brake the edges 90* to for the spot weld flanges to attatch it to the bedsides though.


Also you can get an idea of how much grinding has been done.




I shot some rattle can paint over the edge and scribed a cut line for the overall width.




Trimmed to the right width, both sides match now.




Since the floor wasn't wide enough to make 90* flanges, I had to make separate flanges for the floor mounts. I made the upper flange 2" wide for more strength, this way the bedsides will be pulled straight against the flanges when clamped and welded.




These were plug welded to the bedsides, and the floor will be welded on top of these.




Weld thru primer on the inner surfaces, and the primer ground off right around the plug weld hole for a cleaner weld.










The offset stamps on the bed floor is 3/8" so I mounted the flanges 3/8" off the floor support rails.





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Old 02-07-2013, 01:31 PM   #159
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Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work

Incredible work as always!

Question: When you say you sandblasted the rust, what blaster, media and grade are you using?


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Old 02-07-2013, 01:38 PM   #161
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Incredible work as always!

Question: When you say you sandblasted the rust, what blaster, media and grade are you using?


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Thanks! I use Sterling Sand brand #45 grit from a local concrete/block company that comes in 50 pound bags. The blaster is an older Tip brand pressure pot blaster, I think it holds 75 or 100 pounds. Works great, pressure pot is much faster than gravity fed blasters! I only use it outdoors, with a full paintsuit and respirator since it's silica sand.

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Old 02-07-2013, 01:39 PM   #162
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Thanks Robert, I've been looking through your post and you do some impressive work!
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:57 PM   #163
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Re: '55 International Metal/Body/Paint Work

Thanks for the reply.

45 grit is much rougher than I had assumed.

I was teetering on whether or not to go pressurized because my current siphon setup sucks! (pun intended)

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Old 02-07-2013, 02:09 PM   #164
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Here's a shot of the sand with a penny for scale.

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Old 02-08-2013, 10:07 AM   #165
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All of the floor braces except two were rotted or bent bad enought that they had to be replaced. I welded in angled 1" tubing with turnbuckles to square the bed before welding the braces in.








Used an 8' straight edge to make sure that all of the braces were level before welding them in.





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Old 02-08-2013, 10:13 AM   #166
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After the floor braces were in it was time to fit the floor. I made templates of the fenderwells and cut the floor to match.








I left a gap around the edge of the floor, big enough that seam sealer could get between the bed floor and the flanges that were welded to the bedside. That way both pieces would be sealed up from the top.




Marked where all of the braces and flanges were from the bottom side so I could drill plug weld holes.






Plug weld holes drilled and washed with both PPG DX Metal Cleaner and Metal Conditioner to prep the metal for epoxy. I used PPG DPLF



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I welded the floor in and ground the plug welds down flush, all 210-220 of them. Then I primed the top and bottom with more DPLF.








After the epoxy dried for a day I masked the side seams, scuffed them, then applied SEM two part seam sealer.




The reason I shot the second coat of epoxy after welding the floor in was to cover the welded areas, and also to get the seam and edge of the bedside coated under the seam sealer.



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That's going to look so good when color on it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:40 PM   #169
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That's going to look so good when color on it.
I can't wait!! I'm getting the front header panel welded in tomorrow then I can start the panel straightening since all the metal replacement will be done and it'll hold it's own shape. The inside of the bed and the top rails will be shot with color matched Line-X so there will only be minimal bodywork to do there- that stuff hides minor waves/ripples. There won't be much area to block sand that way so bodywork won't take all that long. Still not sure what we'll do about a tailgate. Can't find one so I may end up making it.


When this one is finished I get to start body/paint on a '58 VW Bug Ragtop. Supposed to be rust free and straight, stored in a dry garage for years... I won't know how to act with no rust to fix!!
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Here's the process of making the header panel. I used 18g and made it in three sections since it wouldn't fit in our bead roller in one piece. Making it in three pieces also allowed me to work out any distortion around the rolled bead in the shrinker/stretcher.


The bottom part of the original header was completely rusted off and stayed with the lower cross brace, that's why its much shorter than the new pieces.




Laid out the stamping pattern for rolling using 1/4" offset dies.




First of three panels rolled. I only rolled the depth of the bead 1/8" to minimize warping. The bead roller has a 20 gauge limit so I also didn't want to push the roller to do something it wasn't designed to do.






Aligned for welding.





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Fully welded, welds smoothed, and clamped in place for initial fitting. I added a diagonal brace to square the bedsides to the floor. More on that in a later post.





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holy cow! Have you ever thought it would be easier to build the whole thing from scratch?

Nice work!

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It's all in the details....Awesome work
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You never cease to amaze!
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #175
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Nice work!

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For some reason it feels like almost did build the whole thing from scratch!!

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With the header panel roughed in I needed to get the bed sides squared to the floor. Easier said than done!! The front 8" of the passenger bed side was twisted inward at the top, right where the stake pockets were. Everything was bent and there were cracks in the corners of the pockets.








I had to cut the corner brace out, ground out the cracks to prep them for welding (gets rid of the fatigued metal), then use the porta-power and a six foot long piece of tubing to have enough leverage to pull the corner back straight.






After rough shaping and welding the cracks.







New corner brace.



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